Any site being run anonymously while also asking for donations can fuck right off.
They’re looking for donations to pay their own energy bill
How does this work though? Those on DD will have built up credit through spring/summer, thus any non-payment comes out of that and the utility company will simply readjust the DD to account for the shortfall.
It also seems like it could be an act of self-harm WRT credit rating (which would affect remortgages etc).
Seems like a weak gesture to me, but maybe the noise it creates during its promotion can get something done?
If people want change, they need to take a leaf from the French playbook and seize the streets.
My main beef beyond prices is:
1. Feed in tariffs are completely unfair, often 25% the usage cost.
2. Zigbee was required for each energy providers smart meters but they bastardized the protocol during implementation meaning normal folks can’t interact and get truthful values from smart meters.
3. Lots of energy providers took .gov money for smart meters, claimed to have them installed but they never worked.
4. Energy companies can invoice you for X amount based on a max speculative usage value, not based on reality. Often their own systems fail to get values from smart meters.
5. Energy companies have been essentially passing energy debt around like a merry go-round since the huge collapse and now we only have a handful of companies left they don’t have the person-power to service their customers.
6. The infrastructure providers(DNOs) aren’t investing enough for the transition to higher power EV chargers and heat pumps, not to mention high power feed in. Their price to even engage with them is extortionate. They are local monopolies.
If you don’t pay your energy bills then the bailiffs will come to your door to take all your stuff, your credit rating will be ruined and your energy supply will be cut off. That’s not a strike, that’s an act of self harm.
Just want to throw out there that as admirable as this is, it will damage your outlook for future credit such as loans or mortgages. If you do it long enough it could have negative impact for years.
Utility bill payments are looked at by banks and finance firms when making decisions. The more missed payments, the less likely you will get what you request.
IMO all utilities required for living should be nationalised to keep costs down. Not a radical idea but for some reason global companies can just fuck around with prices willy nilly plunging people into poverty
Quoting myself:
Encouraging others to aquire debt is not something that should be done lightly.
The problem with financial strikes is that people who are relatively wealthy and financially astute put the money due in an account so the bill can be paid when legal action is threatened. Others who are less well-off use the money “saved” to buy food or shoes for their kids. When the bailiffs come around they have no cash with which to pay the debt. By then the wealthy middle class have moved onto the next thing and the poor are left with a whole bunch of problems.
Unrelated(ish) But I might have to join this strike wether I want to or not.
Got an email yesterday from British gas, my direct debit has been raised from 88pounds per month to 360! Even though I haven’t had the heating on for months. I knew massive increases we’re coming but that much? Unless this is some mistake, I’m fucked.
>Who is Don’t Pay?
We’re creating the vehicle for a mass non-payment strike. We’re not affiliated to any organisation, nor do we have a set list of demands.
Well that’s clear then. Looks like a front for a union or it’s some offshoot of Extinction Rebellion. Not sure I’d want to hand out my details and money to any group that can’t be honest about who is behind it.
Doubt this gains much traction. The BBC and other news’ll never give it the time of day
I’m on a pre-pay meter if I don’t pay it goes off 🤷♂️
Yeah great idea. Let’s fuck up our credit score/rating by not paying bills on time. This shit will be on your record for years and taking even something simple as a mobile phone contract may be impossible in the future with all the red flags on your credit profile. Dumbest idea ever.
Yea I’m on pre-payment meter. If I don’t pay, I don’t have electric unfortunately.
Dodgy site. A site looking for people willing to sink themselves in further debt
Good luck with that, i’ll end up having to pay more the next month.
You lot crack on then
For this kind of thing to be effective, it has to be in the context of an array of other related actions & in coordination with similar activity in other countries. Ideally you want some sabby cats in the offices too, and you need to have mutual support networks to protect them if they get caught.
Otherwise participants just get shafted, with little to no effect on energy retailers or wholesalers, and tbh right now the fuckers might kind of welcome being able to cut people off as well as the opportunity to massively expand pay-as-you-go & pay-in-advance schemes, as well as the collapse of any remaining weaker players.
Collective power has the potential to bring about all of the changes we need, but it is still really important to be strategic, otherwise Capital will crush it with ease.
People know what happens when a country collectively can’t pay for fuel right? Deliveries stop… take a look at Sri Lanka.
Back to the drawing board.
No way to not pay on a pay-as-you-go meter, So that rules out about 4 million houses/flats. There is no way I can’t pay as when it runs out it switches off.
My most expensive month this year has been 101 pounds. Cheapest, 71 pounds
I’m looking forward to the poverty use challenge.
This is a terrible idea. Anyone that falls for this deserves the financial penalties that will be bestowed upon them.
This is idiotic and has the potential to encourage a serious act of self harm from people who are already in dire straits.
Good luck with that. LOL
Ruin your credit score. Get your utilities cut off. Pay fortune to reconnect. No brainer. What a bunch of plonkers advising such a crap.
Hahahahhahhaha, no.
Guess I’m participating because I can’t afford it lol
Stop paying for my electric when I work from home, seems logical.
This is so fucking ridiculous. The kind of thing you come up with in 6th Form that you’re sure will make a real difference because you’ve never been outside.
I’ve been on strike for the past decade
I’d get involved if it were clear who is actually running this, and if they didn’t use an american date format.
I suspect this is going to be downvoted, but the default tariff cap is simply indexed to wholesale energy prices (which are unbelievably [high](https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/wholesale-market-indicators)). The very low prices that some companies were offering before last year’s spike were obviously unsustainable, hence the [wave of companies going bust](https://www.forbes.com/uk/advisor/energy/failed-uk-energy-suppliers-update/). The Tl;Dr is that the costs of those companies going bust get socialised, thus raising tariff prices even further…
I’m not going to make a comment on what I think needs to be done to fix all of this, but I do beg people to do their own research rather than trusting an anonymous call to action.
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Any site being run anonymously while also asking for donations can fuck right off.
They’re looking for donations to pay their own energy bill
How does this work though? Those on DD will have built up credit through spring/summer, thus any non-payment comes out of that and the utility company will simply readjust the DD to account for the shortfall.
It also seems like it could be an act of self-harm WRT credit rating (which would affect remortgages etc).
Seems like a weak gesture to me, but maybe the noise it creates during its promotion can get something done?
If people want change, they need to take a leaf from the French playbook and seize the streets.
My main beef beyond prices is:
1. Feed in tariffs are completely unfair, often 25% the usage cost.
2. Zigbee was required for each energy providers smart meters but they bastardized the protocol during implementation meaning normal folks can’t interact and get truthful values from smart meters.
3. Lots of energy providers took .gov money for smart meters, claimed to have them installed but they never worked.
4. Energy companies can invoice you for X amount based on a max speculative usage value, not based on reality. Often their own systems fail to get values from smart meters.
5. Energy companies have been essentially passing energy debt around like a merry go-round since the huge collapse and now we only have a handful of companies left they don’t have the person-power to service their customers.
6. The infrastructure providers(DNOs) aren’t investing enough for the transition to higher power EV chargers and heat pumps, not to mention high power feed in. Their price to even engage with them is extortionate. They are local monopolies.
If you don’t pay your energy bills then the bailiffs will come to your door to take all your stuff, your credit rating will be ruined and your energy supply will be cut off. That’s not a strike, that’s an act of self harm.
Just want to throw out there that as admirable as this is, it will damage your outlook for future credit such as loans or mortgages. If you do it long enough it could have negative impact for years.
Utility bill payments are looked at by banks and finance firms when making decisions. The more missed payments, the less likely you will get what you request.
IMO all utilities required for living should be nationalised to keep costs down. Not a radical idea but for some reason global companies can just fuck around with prices willy nilly plunging people into poverty
Quoting myself:
Encouraging others to aquire debt is not something that should be done lightly.
The problem with financial strikes is that people who are relatively wealthy and financially astute put the money due in an account so the bill can be paid when legal action is threatened. Others who are less well-off use the money “saved” to buy food or shoes for their kids. When the bailiffs come around they have no cash with which to pay the debt. By then the wealthy middle class have moved onto the next thing and the poor are left with a whole bunch of problems.
Unrelated(ish) But I might have to join this strike wether I want to or not.
Got an email yesterday from British gas, my direct debit has been raised from 88pounds per month to 360! Even though I haven’t had the heating on for months. I knew massive increases we’re coming but that much? Unless this is some mistake, I’m fucked.
>Who is Don’t Pay?
We’re creating the vehicle for a mass non-payment strike. We’re not affiliated to any organisation, nor do we have a set list of demands.
[https://dontpay.uk/faqs](https://dontpay.uk/faqs)
Well that’s clear then. Looks like a front for a union or it’s some offshoot of Extinction Rebellion. Not sure I’d want to hand out my details and money to any group that can’t be honest about who is behind it.
Doubt this gains much traction. The BBC and other news’ll never give it the time of day
I’m on a pre-pay meter if I don’t pay it goes off 🤷♂️
Yeah great idea. Let’s fuck up our credit score/rating by not paying bills on time. This shit will be on your record for years and taking even something simple as a mobile phone contract may be impossible in the future with all the red flags on your credit profile. Dumbest idea ever.
Yea I’m on pre-payment meter. If I don’t pay, I don’t have electric unfortunately.
Dodgy site. A site looking for people willing to sink themselves in further debt
Good luck with that, i’ll end up having to pay more the next month.
You lot crack on then
For this kind of thing to be effective, it has to be in the context of an array of other related actions & in coordination with similar activity in other countries. Ideally you want some sabby cats in the offices too, and you need to have mutual support networks to protect them if they get caught.
Otherwise participants just get shafted, with little to no effect on energy retailers or wholesalers, and tbh right now the fuckers might kind of welcome being able to cut people off as well as the opportunity to massively expand pay-as-you-go & pay-in-advance schemes, as well as the collapse of any remaining weaker players.
Collective power has the potential to bring about all of the changes we need, but it is still really important to be strategic, otherwise Capital will crush it with ease.
People know what happens when a country collectively can’t pay for fuel right? Deliveries stop… take a look at Sri Lanka.
Back to the drawing board.
No way to not pay on a pay-as-you-go meter, So that rules out about 4 million houses/flats. There is no way I can’t pay as when it runs out it switches off.
My most expensive month this year has been 101 pounds. Cheapest, 71 pounds
I’m looking forward to the poverty use challenge.
This is a terrible idea. Anyone that falls for this deserves the financial penalties that will be bestowed upon them.
This is idiotic and has the potential to encourage a serious act of self harm from people who are already in dire straits.
Good luck with that. LOL
Ruin your credit score. Get your utilities cut off. Pay fortune to reconnect. No brainer. What a bunch of plonkers advising such a crap.
Hahahahhahhaha, no.
Guess I’m participating because I can’t afford it lol
Stop paying for my electric when I work from home, seems logical.
This is so fucking ridiculous. The kind of thing you come up with in 6th Form that you’re sure will make a real difference because you’ve never been outside.
I’ve been on strike for the past decade
I’d get involved if it were clear who is actually running this, and if they didn’t use an american date format.
I suspect this is going to be downvoted, but the default tariff cap is simply indexed to wholesale energy prices (which are unbelievably [high](https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/wholesale-market-indicators)). The very low prices that some companies were offering before last year’s spike were obviously unsustainable, hence the [wave of companies going bust](https://www.forbes.com/uk/advisor/energy/failed-uk-energy-suppliers-update/). The Tl;Dr is that the costs of those companies going bust get socialised, thus raising tariff prices even further…
I’m not going to make a comment on what I think needs to be done to fix all of this, but I do beg people to do their own research rather than trusting an anonymous call to action.