If by some miracle this is tabled and passed, Keir Starmer will be PM if polls are correct.
Wouldn’t expect Tories to vote for it honestly
They know they’ll be destroyed in polls right now
All they had to do was run the country with a majority until 2025. Now we’re going to get an election in the middle of a crisis.
Parliament now needs a vote of no confidence and a general election.
Boris can’t be allowed to run the Government for months without support from MPs with all the social issues we are currently facing.
Sure, he’s the worst leader you’ve ever had and it will take time to rework the party into something better – but do that from the Opposition and don’t drag the country through the shit whilst you find someone actually capable of office
Surprise. The police issue Starmer a FPN for breaking covid rules and he has to resign.
I suspect he’s received an all clear and is just sitting on it, waiting for a quiet moment to slip it out.
The Tories this week:
“Boris has no integrity, no support and must go, now! ”
Tories next week:
“we fully support Boris, as he leads this united party and country through these troubled times getting things done”
If this does pass (I doubt it will), there are 14 days the government has to form a new government. It probably means that Raab (or someone else) will take their place as interim PM.
Snooker move.
Might be the first useful thing he has done! The fact I can’t easily see the benefit to the Tory party of Keir’s actions might even make this a unique occurrence.
I doubt he has the numbers but that doesn’t matter… The only problem I can see is if they call his bluff. The Tories do have *something* to campaign on as opposed to Labour, and I would not be so sure about a Labour win once Boris goes… Depends entirely on who is most likely to take over.
A beautifully tough situation to give Tories. If they put party before country it reminds people that the Tories serve their own party before what is right and it shows that Boris isn’t the only problem but almost a symptom.
Dozens in a shocking event have shown no confidence in Boris TWICE now between 40% voting No Confidence and now about 40 MPs resigning their positions stating Boris needs to leave. They now either have to contradict themselves or commit to their double showing of no confidence.
The public wants Boris gone. The Tories have shown they want Boris gone twice. Do they then refuse to show it a third time just for power and ruffle the public? That’s most likely what they do.
“Caretaker” PM? I prefer the American term, “Lame Duck”. Really drives home the absurdity of his position.
Does a VONC raised by the opposition which passes automatically entail a general election?
So as much as this gives the conservatives a bit of room before the next election, i don’t think we can afford to have a “not really” prime minister in the office for another 3 months.
Martin Lewis on Newsnight this week impressed me, I’ve never watched his money programmes but have seen him a couple of times recently giving political commentary.
Martin said Labour don’t want to call for a Vote of No Confidence as that would cause the Tories to close ranks and vote for Boris, so would be counter productive.
I dont understand why he’s been allowed to cling on indefinitely. Normally, people give a timetable for their leaving. Then a care taker manager is appointed.
Boris clinging on like a maniac was just a bargaining chip to give him extra time to lie,cheat, coerce and bribe his way to stay in power during a ‘transition’ period. I’m off to the bookies to put a tenner on BJ being next Tory leader!
Boris should have triggered an election himself in his resignation speech, as a big up yours to his party of back stabbing self serving holes. As for Starmer doing it he should be resigning himself,if he was fined, like he said he would. Can we get an election triggered with nobody leading either main party?
Starmer is a rat and no better than Boris
Starmer should table a vote right now, not put conditions on it.
At this point, if he tables an election the tories will either vote with him or expose themselves as the ass-backwards jobsworth’s they are to the public. If they eject Johnson immediately then if he calls for a vote of no confidence they’ll vote against him, because they have a caretaker government in place and their jobs are secure for at least two years. If he decides not to then the tories have two years to reform their image with a new PM who’ll likely be idealogically aligned with Johnson but who the media will spend the next two years convincing people has the cleanest hands on the planet.
I dislike Starmer but I’ll vote Labour, but at this point it’s not voting for him so much as it’s voting to get the tories out – a lesson I wish the factions of Labour who sabotaged Corbyn who dislike *him* had taken and helped us avoid this whole mess. I no longer believe that I can afford to vote ideologically – Ideals are for the Scottish and right wing. The best I can hope for is “not who I’d pick but not as bad as the alternative”.
I’ll believe it when I see it. Starmer = all talk.
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If by some miracle this is tabled and passed, Keir Starmer will be PM if polls are correct.
Wouldn’t expect Tories to vote for it honestly
They know they’ll be destroyed in polls right now
All they had to do was run the country with a majority until 2025. Now we’re going to get an election in the middle of a crisis.
Parliament now needs a vote of no confidence and a general election.
Boris can’t be allowed to run the Government for months without support from MPs with all the social issues we are currently facing.
Sure, he’s the worst leader you’ve ever had and it will take time to rework the party into something better – but do that from the Opposition and don’t drag the country through the shit whilst you find someone actually capable of office
Surprise. The police issue Starmer a FPN for breaking covid rules and he has to resign.
I suspect he’s received an all clear and is just sitting on it, waiting for a quiet moment to slip it out.
The Tories this week:
“Boris has no integrity, no support and must go, now! ”
Tories next week:
“we fully support Boris, as he leads this united party and country through these troubled times getting things done”
If this does pass (I doubt it will), there are 14 days the government has to form a new government. It probably means that Raab (or someone else) will take their place as interim PM.
Snooker move.
Might be the first useful thing he has done! The fact I can’t easily see the benefit to the Tory party of Keir’s actions might even make this a unique occurrence.
I doubt he has the numbers but that doesn’t matter… The only problem I can see is if they call his bluff. The Tories do have *something* to campaign on as opposed to Labour, and I would not be so sure about a Labour win once Boris goes… Depends entirely on who is most likely to take over.
A beautifully tough situation to give Tories. If they put party before country it reminds people that the Tories serve their own party before what is right and it shows that Boris isn’t the only problem but almost a symptom.
Dozens in a shocking event have shown no confidence in Boris TWICE now between 40% voting No Confidence and now about 40 MPs resigning their positions stating Boris needs to leave. They now either have to contradict themselves or commit to their double showing of no confidence.
The public wants Boris gone. The Tories have shown they want Boris gone twice. Do they then refuse to show it a third time just for power and ruffle the public? That’s most likely what they do.
“Caretaker” PM? I prefer the American term, “Lame Duck”. Really drives home the absurdity of his position.
Does a VONC raised by the opposition which passes automatically entail a general election?
So as much as this gives the conservatives a bit of room before the next election, i don’t think we can afford to have a “not really” prime minister in the office for another 3 months.
Martin Lewis on Newsnight this week impressed me, I’ve never watched his money programmes but have seen him a couple of times recently giving political commentary.
Martin said Labour don’t want to call for a Vote of No Confidence as that would cause the Tories to close ranks and vote for Boris, so would be counter productive.
I dont understand why he’s been allowed to cling on indefinitely. Normally, people give a timetable for their leaving. Then a care taker manager is appointed.
Boris clinging on like a maniac was just a bargaining chip to give him extra time to lie,cheat, coerce and bribe his way to stay in power during a ‘transition’ period. I’m off to the bookies to put a tenner on BJ being next Tory leader!
Boris should have triggered an election himself in his resignation speech, as a big up yours to his party of back stabbing self serving holes. As for Starmer doing it he should be resigning himself,if he was fined, like he said he would. Can we get an election triggered with nobody leading either main party?
Starmer is a rat and no better than Boris
Starmer should table a vote right now, not put conditions on it.
At this point, if he tables an election the tories will either vote with him or expose themselves as the ass-backwards jobsworth’s they are to the public. If they eject Johnson immediately then if he calls for a vote of no confidence they’ll vote against him, because they have a caretaker government in place and their jobs are secure for at least two years. If he decides not to then the tories have two years to reform their image with a new PM who’ll likely be idealogically aligned with Johnson but who the media will spend the next two years convincing people has the cleanest hands on the planet.
I dislike Starmer but I’ll vote Labour, but at this point it’s not voting for him so much as it’s voting to get the tories out – a lesson I wish the factions of Labour who sabotaged Corbyn who dislike *him* had taken and helped us avoid this whole mess. I no longer believe that I can afford to vote ideologically – Ideals are for the Scottish and right wing. The best I can hope for is “not who I’d pick but not as bad as the alternative”.
I’ll believe it when I see it. Starmer = all talk.