The hits just keep coming for the health service under this government.
That’s not a good idea.
Maybe infants could fly to Spain to get their checks
It’s a side issue maybe, but wtf at this paragraph:
“When Prime Time contacted over-stretched local GP surgeries they said they don’t carry out developmental checks. One surgery told us they hadn’t been told about the cut in screening, until they had distressed mums calling them.”
You’re a trained doctor, check if your patients are healthy ffs.
What a short sighted and stupid plan this is. Prevention is better than cure, find and treat issues early and it is more cost effective for the HSE, much better outcomes for the patient and less drainage on a wide range of services in later years.
ah the classic HSE tactic of “Lets save a few cent now, and waste a few billion in a few years when this all blows up”
The developmental checks are the literal definition of preventative healthcare, picked up issues as early as possible.
This is not the direction we should be moving in
>~~At eleven months, Riccardo, was overdue a key milestone developmental check up at 9-11 months.~~
~~I feel really stupid saying this, but I thought the baby should be out around month 9 (40 weeks)?~~
Ahh, I am actually stupid. It’s post delivery.
How does Micheal Martin have any support whatsoever? I know FG have been in power for over 10 years now and must shoulder blame too, but the start of the disaster that is the HSE lies in FF policies.
When FF where obliterated a few elections back and Enda Kenny became taoiseach, Martin sat happily in opposition and made out like all problems were of FG’s making. FF have brought forward lots of new faces over the past 10 years to make it seem like they’ve changed, I can’t imagine anyone supporting Bertie Ahern if he decided to make a comeback or the late Brian Cowen, but Martin seems to have convinced everybody that he doesn’t bear any responsibility for the disasters leading up to the recession, despite being a senior member of the party and holding important portfolios.
He was minister for health in the early part of the 2000s and thinks he was a success because of the smoking ban. I support the smoking ban, but the rest of his policies weren’t great. The only reason he isn’t completely hated for being minister for health was because he was succeeded by Mary harney who seemed hellbent on completely destroying the Irish health system.
This is a mess and will 100% allow for more children to fall through the cracks in terms of not getting the care they need etc.
Queue VHI and Laya listing this as a service for new mothers AND of course employing (with much better pay) the nurses who we’re doing it on the HSE.
Privatisation by stealth.
Not a good idea. At all. A home visit can flag some stuff with both the baby but also the environment the baby is in.
There was a recent incest case in Munster where the kids were living in squalor and being raped by the extended family, and it was spotted through home visits. I’m not sure if that was a baby nurse or not but it was an authority figure who went to the house and got the ball rolling.
If the HSE is going to be cutting costs, this isn’t the place to cut them.
This can only be sabotage. Privatization by stealth – removing such a vital and cost effective care.
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How are they deciding who gets the checks?
I had a baby in April 2020 who is going in for her 2yr check next week, has already had phn visit in the few days after birth and at 3 and 9months. and the 2 year visit is only delayed because we moved house/jurisdictions.
Second baby born this April also had phn visit in the days after we were home and has 3m check next week. We aren’t in Dublin, seems very unfair if this is only a issue depending on where you live.
I’ll also add we’ve no risk factors in the home that would give reason to us being seen by phn.
This is absolutely disgusting. My child was born Nov 2020, we had one check when he was 2 weeks old and that was it. I had to fight to get him in for another check when he was 15 months old, because we weren’t contacted for the 3 month or the 9-11 month check. I was told then that he’s too old for the 9-11 month frame work and too young for the 20-22 month. He’s now 20 months and still is very slow with speaking and I’m just waiting for his next check, which we don’t know when or if that will happen.
We have another baby on the way and we want them to get their check ups.
Our friends had a baby and during one of these early checks, the nurse spotted the fat rolls on her legs weren’t even, which can be a sign of hip issues. We had no idea about any of these things to keep an eye out for and if our boy was displaying anything like that, it would have gone unnoticed completely. I’m actually so angry about this.
Ugh this is very worrying !!
Fuck sake.
Fairies are going to have a field day with changelings now.
Our child got a quick check when just out the hospital only because I constantly phoned the local health nurse, this was recently in March. The 3 month check was when she was 5months. To add to this, my wife was to get a check up around at 6weeks as well and that didn’t happen with the doctor or local community nurse.
I ended up calling the national maternity hospital with my concerns and they got us seen to rapidly.
I have a feeling that the local nurse is overworked and don’t have time. The GP doctors are good, but they don’t specialise in this.
Ffs this is mad. My Son was born in Jan 2020 and wasn’t seen between 6 weeks and 11 months – and the only reason he was seen at 11 months was because I really pushed for it to happen. He was quite slow to crawl and subsequently walk, so it was a tremendous help having guidance from the PHN who referred him to the doctor, who then referred him to the paediatric physiotherapist. Would have been none the wiser had I not chased them.
Third world country health service here in Ireland.
My boy was born December 2019, got kept in a few extra days as he almost died at at 2/3 days old then got two check ups after he was discharged (3 weeks old being the last) then nothing until he was 8 months Absolute joke, the PHN said this is my number feel free to contact me at his 8 month check, so I did I sent her messages regularly for 2-3months and nothing. She completely ignored me. No one knows we have since left the country and on arriving here and registering with a GP we’ve already been informed a PHN will come do a check soon.
I’m just glad my boy is in nursery and they would’ve raised any concerns about his development.
Have a new baby coming in 3 weeks. Great to see this regressive step
I know they’re probably under pressure to get stories out in short times, and editors can’t catch everything, but I swear I never see an RTE news story without an embarrassing spelling or grammatical error…
“In Dublin, as many as one in three babies did not getting their vital checks within the first year.”
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The hits just keep coming for the health service under this government.
That’s not a good idea.
Maybe infants could fly to Spain to get their checks
It’s a side issue maybe, but wtf at this paragraph:
“When Prime Time contacted over-stretched local GP surgeries they said they don’t carry out developmental checks. One surgery told us they hadn’t been told about the cut in screening, until they had distressed mums calling them.”
You’re a trained doctor, check if your patients are healthy ffs.
What a short sighted and stupid plan this is. Prevention is better than cure, find and treat issues early and it is more cost effective for the HSE, much better outcomes for the patient and less drainage on a wide range of services in later years.
ah the classic HSE tactic of “Lets save a few cent now, and waste a few billion in a few years when this all blows up”
The developmental checks are the literal definition of preventative healthcare, picked up issues as early as possible.
This is not the direction we should be moving in
>~~At eleven months, Riccardo, was overdue a key milestone developmental check up at 9-11 months.~~
~~I feel really stupid saying this, but I thought the baby should be out around month 9 (40 weeks)?~~
Ahh, I am actually stupid. It’s post delivery.
How does Micheal Martin have any support whatsoever? I know FG have been in power for over 10 years now and must shoulder blame too, but the start of the disaster that is the HSE lies in FF policies.
When FF where obliterated a few elections back and Enda Kenny became taoiseach, Martin sat happily in opposition and made out like all problems were of FG’s making. FF have brought forward lots of new faces over the past 10 years to make it seem like they’ve changed, I can’t imagine anyone supporting Bertie Ahern if he decided to make a comeback or the late Brian Cowen, but Martin seems to have convinced everybody that he doesn’t bear any responsibility for the disasters leading up to the recession, despite being a senior member of the party and holding important portfolios.
He was minister for health in the early part of the 2000s and thinks he was a success because of the smoking ban. I support the smoking ban, but the rest of his policies weren’t great. The only reason he isn’t completely hated for being minister for health was because he was succeeded by Mary harney who seemed hellbent on completely destroying the Irish health system.
This is a mess and will 100% allow for more children to fall through the cracks in terms of not getting the care they need etc.
Queue VHI and Laya listing this as a service for new mothers AND of course employing (with much better pay) the nurses who we’re doing it on the HSE.
Privatisation by stealth.
Not a good idea. At all. A home visit can flag some stuff with both the baby but also the environment the baby is in.
There was a recent incest case in Munster where the kids were living in squalor and being raped by the extended family, and it was spotted through home visits. I’m not sure if that was a baby nurse or not but it was an authority figure who went to the house and got the ball rolling.
If the HSE is going to be cutting costs, this isn’t the place to cut them.
This can only be sabotage. Privatization by stealth – removing such a vital and cost effective care.
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How are they deciding who gets the checks?
I had a baby in April 2020 who is going in for her 2yr check next week, has already had phn visit in the few days after birth and at 3 and 9months. and the 2 year visit is only delayed because we moved house/jurisdictions.
Second baby born this April also had phn visit in the days after we were home and has 3m check next week. We aren’t in Dublin, seems very unfair if this is only a issue depending on where you live.
I’ll also add we’ve no risk factors in the home that would give reason to us being seen by phn.
This is absolutely disgusting. My child was born Nov 2020, we had one check when he was 2 weeks old and that was it. I had to fight to get him in for another check when he was 15 months old, because we weren’t contacted for the 3 month or the 9-11 month check. I was told then that he’s too old for the 9-11 month frame work and too young for the 20-22 month. He’s now 20 months and still is very slow with speaking and I’m just waiting for his next check, which we don’t know when or if that will happen.
We have another baby on the way and we want them to get their check ups.
Our friends had a baby and during one of these early checks, the nurse spotted the fat rolls on her legs weren’t even, which can be a sign of hip issues. We had no idea about any of these things to keep an eye out for and if our boy was displaying anything like that, it would have gone unnoticed completely. I’m actually so angry about this.
Ugh this is very worrying !!
Fuck sake.
Fairies are going to have a field day with changelings now.
Our child got a quick check when just out the hospital only because I constantly phoned the local health nurse, this was recently in March. The 3 month check was when she was 5months. To add to this, my wife was to get a check up around at 6weeks as well and that didn’t happen with the doctor or local community nurse.
I ended up calling the national maternity hospital with my concerns and they got us seen to rapidly.
I have a feeling that the local nurse is overworked and don’t have time. The GP doctors are good, but they don’t specialise in this.
Ffs this is mad. My Son was born in Jan 2020 and wasn’t seen between 6 weeks and 11 months – and the only reason he was seen at 11 months was because I really pushed for it to happen. He was quite slow to crawl and subsequently walk, so it was a tremendous help having guidance from the PHN who referred him to the doctor, who then referred him to the paediatric physiotherapist. Would have been none the wiser had I not chased them.
Third world country health service here in Ireland.
My boy was born December 2019, got kept in a few extra days as he almost died at at 2/3 days old then got two check ups after he was discharged (3 weeks old being the last) then nothing until he was 8 months Absolute joke, the PHN said this is my number feel free to contact me at his 8 month check, so I did I sent her messages regularly for 2-3months and nothing. She completely ignored me. No one knows we have since left the country and on arriving here and registering with a GP we’ve already been informed a PHN will come do a check soon.
I’m just glad my boy is in nursery and they would’ve raised any concerns about his development.
Have a new baby coming in 3 weeks. Great to see this regressive step
I know they’re probably under pressure to get stories out in short times, and editors can’t catch everything, but I swear I never see an RTE news story without an embarrassing spelling or grammatical error…
“In Dublin, as many as one in three babies did not getting their vital checks within the first year.”