I’m not gonna say love thy landlord, but can we agree that this would probably not have the desired effect? 🤣
The problem with landlords exiting the market is that it reduces the state’s capacity to house people overall. Most people who buy a place to live tend not to share it with strangers. A 3 bedroom housing 6 students is likely to be sold to a couple with 1 or 2 kids.
This happened in Berlin when they brought in the rent freeze. It was great for anyone who’s landlord didn’t sell up, but for the unlucky few who were in that situation, they found it very difficult to find accommodation. Many had to go to satellite towns of Berlin, but because they saw a big increase of tenants coming from Berlin, but weren’t covered by the rent freeze, rents there grew massively. There were people who left central Berlin to live in a satellite town where they ended up paying more rent than they were originally.
Murphy is a mad Communist.
If only a government had the interest and motivation to start national building programs, based on infrastructure and housing. State ran, state funded, state apprenticeships, state jobs, keep it going always work needing done.
Now anything classed as a want and not a need can be filled by the private sector. Nice and blended, public are kept at the heart and private can still do it’s thing.
STOP all this back talking, double talking, argumentative, manipulative and petty expressions and just work together. Please !
This single mindedness of people correcting the market as they profit from it is at best just as deluded as thinking that giving one person ultimate power over a nation will work or any single minded political view.
People. Stop the politics.
I like Richard Boyd Barrett, but this proposal is to have a max rent of every property in Ireland set to just under €1000.
If you can’t see any issues with that then you probably shouldn’t be voting.
Go on Murphy. That’s brilliant 👏👏
Do they just make up random shit after a night in the pub and then release it as policy the next day?
The leader of PBP is a privately educated wealthy man from South County Dublin who seems uneasy with that himself so he comes out with the most bizzare hardline Communist plans that make no sense yet would make things far worse.
Don’t threaten us with a good time
Do it? So if you move to city for college you have to buy a house? Or if you have to work in an are for 6 months you have to get a hotel room? Rental properties are essential, therefore landlords are essential.
I don’t get it, median household income is 44k. Would that make all rents cap at 1.1k?
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Being angry at landlords for rent levels is akin to being angry at the petrol pump attendant for the high price of oil.
Landlords are price *takers*, not price *makers*.
During COVID rents shot down as the demand evaporated.
When foreign workers returned they shot back up.
Demand affects prices, especially at a time of low supply.
Roderic O’Gorman (Green Party) decided to instigate an open borders policy for Ukrainian refugees.
>The Irish government minister Roderic O’Gorman told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that giving shelter to refugees was “the right thing to do”, revealing that 2,200 Ukrainians had arrived in the country since Russia invaded on 24 February, compared with about 300 in the UK.
>***The country lifted its restrictions shortly after the invasion allowing Ukrainians to arrive without pre-vetting or visas***.
I’ve said it before, we can help Ukraine, but not through accommodation. For fucks sake, we can’t even house our own people!
When will people realise that virtue signalling politicians are having a detrimental effect on Irish citizens ? It’s not some pathetic game any more. These decisions have serious consequences.
Stop voting for virtue signalling muppets.
This is just stupid. If the government wants to influence rents then just become the biggest rent provider in the market.
No one else in the Irish market has the governments borrowing ability or access to land. The government could easily build and then rent out houses and keep doing so until the market shifted. They won’t of course because turkeys don’t vote for Christmas.
The TDs know very well how market economics work which is why they won’t ever consider such an idea. They know they can’t compete with the public sector.
Jesus Christ that argument was stupid when Ayn Rand made it and its stupid now.
People need to live somewhere.
There is shelter available.
There you go: demand and supply, economics at work.
Okay now tell me about the potential downsides to this
Heavily tax the sale of non-primary dwelling properties and bring in rent control + UK level of inspection and minimum standards for rentals.
Problem solved.
Jesus it’s not that hard.
Like that would be a bad thing?! Fuck ‘em! Let the lazy leeching cunts get out there and get a real job instead of feeding off the tit of hardworking tenants.
This “landlord bad” attitude fucks my head…who will put houses up to rent if there are no landlords. I feel like I’m going mad. It’s already literally impossible to rent a place. I just don’t understand these people, do they expect everyone to buy a place??
Fine Gael are so malignant the only solution they’ve ever proposed is a counter argument for maintaining corruption.
PBP just trying to distract from their Russia apologism.
Gtfo
I am not a commie, but it is evident that the revolution is coming. At some point society breaks and then people starts building guillotines, I guess.
Rent is too dam high…..one way or another it will come down
Jaysus but it’s landlord central in this thread with their cries of “TINA!” (there is no alternative – to landlordism/status quo)
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I’m not gonna say love thy landlord, but can we agree that this would probably not have the desired effect? 🤣
The problem with landlords exiting the market is that it reduces the state’s capacity to house people overall. Most people who buy a place to live tend not to share it with strangers. A 3 bedroom housing 6 students is likely to be sold to a couple with 1 or 2 kids.
This happened in Berlin when they brought in the rent freeze. It was great for anyone who’s landlord didn’t sell up, but for the unlucky few who were in that situation, they found it very difficult to find accommodation. Many had to go to satellite towns of Berlin, but because they saw a big increase of tenants coming from Berlin, but weren’t covered by the rent freeze, rents there grew massively. There were people who left central Berlin to live in a satellite town where they ended up paying more rent than they were originally.
Murphy is a mad Communist.
If only a government had the interest and motivation to start national building programs, based on infrastructure and housing. State ran, state funded, state apprenticeships, state jobs, keep it going always work needing done.
Now anything classed as a want and not a need can be filled by the private sector. Nice and blended, public are kept at the heart and private can still do it’s thing.
STOP all this back talking, double talking, argumentative, manipulative and petty expressions and just work together. Please !
This single mindedness of people correcting the market as they profit from it is at best just as deluded as thinking that giving one person ultimate power over a nation will work or any single minded political view.
People. Stop the politics.
I like Richard Boyd Barrett, but this proposal is to have a max rent of every property in Ireland set to just under €1000.
If you can’t see any issues with that then you probably shouldn’t be voting.
Go on Murphy. That’s brilliant 👏👏
Do they just make up random shit after a night in the pub and then release it as policy the next day?
The leader of PBP is a privately educated wealthy man from South County Dublin who seems uneasy with that himself so he comes out with the most bizzare hardline Communist plans that make no sense yet would make things far worse.
Don’t threaten us with a good time
Do it? So if you move to city for college you have to buy a house? Or if you have to work in an are for 6 months you have to get a hotel room? Rental properties are essential, therefore landlords are essential.
I don’t get it, median household income is 44k. Would that make all rents cap at 1.1k?
[deleted]
Being angry at landlords for rent levels is akin to being angry at the petrol pump attendant for the high price of oil.
Landlords are price *takers*, not price *makers*.
During COVID rents shot down as the demand evaporated.
When foreign workers returned they shot back up.
Demand affects prices, especially at a time of low supply.
Roderic O’Gorman (Green Party) decided to instigate an open borders policy for Ukrainian refugees.
>The Irish government minister Roderic O’Gorman told RTÉ’s Morning Ireland that giving shelter to refugees was “the right thing to do”, revealing that 2,200 Ukrainians had arrived in the country since Russia invaded on 24 February, compared with about 300 in the UK.
>***The country lifted its restrictions shortly after the invasion allowing Ukrainians to arrive without pre-vetting or visas***.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/08/uk-should-not-criticise-irish-policy-on-ukrainian-refugees-says-tory-mp
Where are we now ?
>Around 41,000 people have come
https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0714/1310131-accommodation-refugees-asylum-seekers/
I’ve said it before, we can help Ukraine, but not through accommodation. For fucks sake, we can’t even house our own people!
When will people realise that virtue signalling politicians are having a detrimental effect on Irish citizens ? It’s not some pathetic game any more. These decisions have serious consequences.
Stop voting for virtue signalling muppets.
This is just stupid. If the government wants to influence rents then just become the biggest rent provider in the market.
No one else in the Irish market has the governments borrowing ability or access to land. The government could easily build and then rent out houses and keep doing so until the market shifted. They won’t of course because turkeys don’t vote for Christmas.
The TDs know very well how market economics work which is why they won’t ever consider such an idea. They know they can’t compete with the public sector.
Jesus Christ that argument was stupid when Ayn Rand made it and its stupid now.
People need to live somewhere.
There is shelter available.
There you go: demand and supply, economics at work.
Okay now tell me about the potential downsides to this
Heavily tax the sale of non-primary dwelling properties and bring in rent control + UK level of inspection and minimum standards for rentals.
Problem solved.
Jesus it’s not that hard.
Like that would be a bad thing?! Fuck ‘em! Let the lazy leeching cunts get out there and get a real job instead of feeding off the tit of hardworking tenants.
This “landlord bad” attitude fucks my head…who will put houses up to rent if there are no landlords. I feel like I’m going mad. It’s already literally impossible to rent a place. I just don’t understand these people, do they expect everyone to buy a place??
Fine Gael are so malignant the only solution they’ve ever proposed is a counter argument for maintaining corruption.
PBP just trying to distract from their Russia apologism.
Gtfo
I am not a commie, but it is evident that the revolution is coming. At some point society breaks and then people starts building guillotines, I guess.
Rent is too dam high…..one way or another it will come down
Jaysus but it’s landlord central in this thread with their cries of “TINA!” (there is no alternative – to landlordism/status quo)