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>[Johnson did not remember being told about Pincher misconduct allegation in 2019, minister claims](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/05/boris-johnson-accused-not-telling-truth-chris-pincher-politics-live?page=with:block-62c424178f084f4c6fce746c#block-62c424178f084f4c6fce746c)
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>Michael Ellis is responding to Rayner.
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>He says Chris Pincher is being investigated. And he says this complaint may be investigated by the police. The sub judice rule should apply, he says.
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>**”***I ask the house to accept that bearing in mind the member in question [Chris Pincher] had been reappointed to government by a previous prime minister in 2018, and then that he’d been appointed in 2019 as a Foreign Office minister and then, crucially, he was appointed for a third time in February, I doubt whether anyone could in knowledge of those facts say that this prime minister should have acted otherwise than he did.*
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>**”***It is the morally fair thing to do in any case to assess the situation based on evidence, not unsubstantiated rumour. It is incumbent on all of us in this House, as it is in society generally, to act fairly.*
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>**”***If there is no evidence at the time, if there is no live complaint, no ongoing investigation, surely it is not unreasonable to consider making an appointment.”*
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>He says in October 2019 officials raised concerns with Simon McDonald, permanent secretary at the Foreign Office. There was an inquiry that reported to McDonald. The exercise reported in due course.
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>**”***The exercise established that while the minister meant no harm, what had occurred caused a high level of discomfort.”*
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>The minister apologised and those who complained accepted this, Ellis says. The PM was made aware of this. He was told that the permanent secretary had taken the necessary action. And so there was no question of Pincher having to leave the government.
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>Ellis goes on:
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**”***Last week, when fresh allegations arose, the prime minister did not immediately recall the conversation in late 2019 about this incident.*
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>**”***As soon as he was reminded, the No 10 press office corrected their public lines.”*
>- *A source claimed that Mr Johnson had said in 2019, when he was running for leader, that he had the ‘support of all the sex pests’ because he was backed by MPs with reputations for inappropriate behaviour – including Mr Pincher.*
“I don’t remember speeding, we cool?”
Doesn’t seem to work too well for us, peasants.
Come on, he has a LOT of sex pests to keep track of.
I don’t know, I feel like this should be something he should fucking REMEMBER!!
Boris Johnson could have his own saturday night gameshow, “liar or incompetent”, where he’s the contestant every week.
Makes you wonder how many serial perverts he’s got to think about in his party if one can just slip the mind like that.
Funny how often he “forgets” important things.
Either he’s a big fat liar, or he suffers from a serious neurological condition, either of which make him utterly unsuitable for any position of authority.
As Rayner said, that excuse means he’s either incompetent or dishonest.
Can’t blame him, it must be hard keeping track of and remembering what is a party and what isn’t a part, and what parties he may or may not have been to without realising. Poor lamb.
As soon as they starting using “I cannot recall” I just assume the opposite.
Boris Johnson feels like a character from Harry Enfield and Chums, Tim nice but dim but forget the nice bit.
Like he seems to walk into, forget about, or is wilfully ignorant of situations that someone in his position of authority over the whole bastard country should be in control of or not be involved in.
The amount of mental gymnastics people try and do to defend him is insane, you’d be better off accepting reality.
How do you forget about an allegation of sexual misconduct…? Is it that common it’s just like forgetting to close a window or something
Well this is up there with “driving to test my eyesight” in regards to excuses.
What he claims he can and cannot remember now is no longer relevant, that’s now just a distraction.
The fact is he was informed. He did nothing about it. He allowed it to continue.
Give him a test for dementia, he seems to be forgetting more every day.
The only way you can forget is if you cannot keep track of all the allegations.
Well, Boris kinda forgot about the probe into the serial groper in his own party…
So he’s wildly incompetent then.
“No, No… I am not a liar! I categorically did not knowingly not tell the truth, even though unknowingly i might not have done.”
How many things is this guy gonna forget before we say……Go to the doctors!!!!
Completely believable, moreso than saying he didn’t know it was a birthday party.
His now wife is one person alleged to have told Johnson about Pincher. If she knew then she either did not press the matter with Johnson or Johnson has been ignoring Carrie a lot.
So he’s incompetent then? Resign.
Deputy chief whip Chris pincher is
a dirty perv.
Groped 2 men, has previous. Was
an open secret he used to do it to
staffers when I worked in parliament years ago.
No 10 lied about being aware
before he was appointed to whip
position. But civil servant came out
and said boz had been briefed in
person before giving him the job.
Boz has now apologised. Cabinet
resigning en masse it seems
Every motherfucker knew about
him.
He had been collared by the whips
for it before he was a whip!
There are fewer non pervs in
Parliament than pervs.
Gross.
Lols….. new mistress there to
comfort:
Chief whip And @NadineDorries just
gone into Number 10
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Dylan ate his homework!
Dog ate my homework
Article [🪞 link](https://archive.ph/dTFyI).
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It is all kicking off in the HoC at the moment:
>Guardian: [Johnson did not remember being told about Pincher misconduct allegation in 2019, minister says – UK politics live – UK politics live](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/05/boris-johnson-accused-not-telling-truth-chris-pincher-politics-live)
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>12:50:
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>[Johnson did not remember being told about Pincher misconduct allegation in 2019, minister claims](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/05/boris-johnson-accused-not-telling-truth-chris-pincher-politics-live?page=with:block-62c424178f084f4c6fce746c#block-62c424178f084f4c6fce746c)
>
>Michael Ellis is responding to Rayner.
>
>He says Chris Pincher is being investigated. And he says this complaint may be investigated by the police. The sub judice rule should apply, he says.
>
>**”***I ask the house to accept that bearing in mind the member in question [Chris Pincher] had been reappointed to government by a previous prime minister in 2018, and then that he’d been appointed in 2019 as a Foreign Office minister and then, crucially, he was appointed for a third time in February, I doubt whether anyone could in knowledge of those facts say that this prime minister should have acted otherwise than he did.*
>
>**”***It is the morally fair thing to do in any case to assess the situation based on evidence, not unsubstantiated rumour. It is incumbent on all of us in this House, as it is in society generally, to act fairly.*
>
>**”***If there is no evidence at the time, if there is no live complaint, no ongoing investigation, surely it is not unreasonable to consider making an appointment.”*
>
>He says in October 2019 officials raised concerns with Simon McDonald, permanent secretary at the Foreign Office. There was an inquiry that reported to McDonald. The exercise reported in due course.
>
>**”***The exercise established that while the minister meant no harm, what had occurred caused a high level of discomfort.”*
>
>The minister apologised and those who complained accepted this, Ellis says. The PM was made aware of this. He was told that the permanent secretary had taken the necessary action. And so there was no question of Pincher having to leave the government.
>
>Ellis goes on:
>
**”***Last week, when fresh allegations arose, the prime minister did not immediately recall the conversation in late 2019 about this incident.*
>
>**”***As soon as he was reminded, the No 10 press office corrected their public lines.”*
Pull out this one:
>[12:56](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/05/boris-johnson-accused-not-telling-truth-chris-pincher-politics-live?page=with:block-62c4266f8f0824967a54c4aa#block-62c4266f8f0824967a54c4aa)
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>Sir Bernard Jenkin (Con) asked why the government kept promoting people “with the wrong attitudes or the wrong behaviours” to government.
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>In response, Ellis said the government might not have known someone had the wrong attitude when they were appointed. He said the government could not act on rumours.
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>Jenkin is a member of the privileges committee that will decide whether or not Boris Johnson lied to MPs about Partygate.
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From [*Mail+* on Sunday](https://archive.ph/QSSdI):
>- *A source claimed that Mr Johnson had said in 2019, when he was running for leader, that he had the ‘support of all the sex pests’ because he was backed by MPs with reputations for inappropriate behaviour – including Mr Pincher.*
“I don’t remember speeding, we cool?”
Doesn’t seem to work too well for us, peasants.
Come on, he has a LOT of sex pests to keep track of.
I don’t know, I feel like this should be something he should fucking REMEMBER!!
Boris Johnson could have his own saturday night gameshow, “liar or incompetent”, where he’s the contestant every week.
Makes you wonder how many serial perverts he’s got to think about in his party if one can just slip the mind like that.
Funny how often he “forgets” important things.
Either he’s a big fat liar, or he suffers from a serious neurological condition, either of which make him utterly unsuitable for any position of authority.
As Rayner said, that excuse means he’s either incompetent or dishonest.
Can’t blame him, it must be hard keeping track of and remembering what is a party and what isn’t a part, and what parties he may or may not have been to without realising. Poor lamb.
As soon as they starting using “I cannot recall” I just assume the opposite.
Boris Johnson feels like a character from Harry Enfield and Chums, Tim nice but dim but forget the nice bit.
Like he seems to walk into, forget about, or is wilfully ignorant of situations that someone in his position of authority over the whole bastard country should be in control of or not be involved in.
The amount of mental gymnastics people try and do to defend him is insane, you’d be better off accepting reality.
How do you forget about an allegation of sexual misconduct…? Is it that common it’s just like forgetting to close a window or something
Well this is up there with “driving to test my eyesight” in regards to excuses.
What he claims he can and cannot remember now is no longer relevant, that’s now just a distraction.
The fact is he was informed. He did nothing about it. He allowed it to continue.
Give him a test for dementia, he seems to be forgetting more every day.
The only way you can forget is if you cannot keep track of all the allegations.
Well, Boris kinda forgot about the probe into the serial groper in his own party…
So he’s wildly incompetent then.
“No, No… I am not a liar! I categorically did not knowingly not tell the truth, even though unknowingly i might not have done.”
How many things is this guy gonna forget before we say……Go to the doctors!!!!
Completely believable, moreso than saying he didn’t know it was a birthday party.
His now wife is one person alleged to have told Johnson about Pincher. If she knew then she either did not press the matter with Johnson or Johnson has been ignoring Carrie a lot.
So he’s incompetent then? Resign.
Deputy chief whip Chris pincher is
a dirty perv.
Groped 2 men, has previous. Was
an open secret he used to do it to
staffers when I worked in parliament years ago.
No 10 lied about being aware
before he was appointed to whip
position. But civil servant came out
and said boz had been briefed in
person before giving him the job.
Boz has now apologised. Cabinet
resigning en masse it seems
Every motherfucker knew about
him.
He had been collared by the whips
for it before he was a whip!
There are fewer non pervs in
Parliament than pervs.
Gross.
Lols….. new mistress there to
comfort:
Chief whip And @NadineDorries just
gone into Number 10