I can hear Mary Lou’s voice by the language used in the meme on the ~~right~~ left.
Edit. Updated which side because I think it might have been confusing.
I think that the corruption up to the 90s left such a mark in Irish society that we just assume that it’s the underlying cause of all our issues.
But although it still exists to some degree, it’s not really what causes it.
Fintan O’Toole’s [article the other day](https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/6q4bza) lays out a pretty scathing review of the government’s shortcomings and that effect on our state and tellingly, he doesn’t mention corruption once.
I don’t want to defend FFG. Their stewardship of the state has been a disaster. I just think that properly understanding their failures will prepare us better for addressing them.
I have no love for FFG but this is a shite meme.
Sweet karma harvesting thread but there’s basically no metric that has Ireland in the ha’penny place when it comes to corruption on an international scale. [There was actually data released by the EU last week](https://twitter.com/LMarcinkute/status/1547212912539877376?s=20&t=Cq-ps_u4pI2uioSiVl9ASw) on corruption that companies face as a cost of doing business in the EU, and oh look, Ireland are right down at the bottom as least corrupt.
“Incredibly slow projects”
I can’t go into too many details, but work in the public sector. The area I work in rolled out a large scale (and much needed) new data system in 2017 for use across the entire organisation. I had not been working there very long at that point but understand it was at least 2-3 years in the works.
In 2018, the very next year, they began working on a new project to completely change and replace that brand new system. Four years on, and they’re still not finished.
You can hardly call it an “old boys club” when the cabinet is fairly middle aged on average, with good albeit not perfect representation of women.
Incompetence and poor governance isn’t bound to a single sex or age group
I wonder wtf SF will do to the country, it’s worrying. They have no experience and just seem to support any populist cause. They have absolutely zero stance on Climate Change and no policy on how to cut emissions from agriculture etc. I have a feeling they’ll be a total disaster.
As much as I don’t like being fair to them, the slow projects, waste and salaries are all down to the civil service and will continue no matter who is in charge.
Can we not raise up against the government and pretty much have a coup because they clearly aren’t going the right way with this country? Or can the general public request a general election? Surely there is something us citizens of Ireland can do?
Nothing to suggest they are corrupt. They are useless fucks though.
SiNn fÉiN wilL dO a BeTtER jOb!!¡
incompetence and corruption aren’t the same thing.
Doesn’t matter who’s in power nothing ever really changes! Voting is a trick to make you think you have a say
They’re two centre right political parties and they have governed like how other centre right political parties have governed.
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I can hear Mary Lou’s voice by the language used in the meme on the ~~right~~ left.
Edit. Updated which side because I think it might have been confusing.
I think that the corruption up to the 90s left such a mark in Irish society that we just assume that it’s the underlying cause of all our issues.
But although it still exists to some degree, it’s not really what causes it.
Fintan O’Toole’s [article the other day](https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/6q4bza) lays out a pretty scathing review of the government’s shortcomings and that effect on our state and tellingly, he doesn’t mention corruption once.
I don’t want to defend FFG. Their stewardship of the state has been a disaster. I just think that properly understanding their failures will prepare us better for addressing them.
I have no love for FFG but this is a shite meme.
Sweet karma harvesting thread but there’s basically no metric that has Ireland in the ha’penny place when it comes to corruption on an international scale. [There was actually data released by the EU last week](https://twitter.com/LMarcinkute/status/1547212912539877376?s=20&t=Cq-ps_u4pI2uioSiVl9ASw) on corruption that companies face as a cost of doing business in the EU, and oh look, Ireland are right down at the bottom as least corrupt.
“Incredibly slow projects”
I can’t go into too many details, but work in the public sector. The area I work in rolled out a large scale (and much needed) new data system in 2017 for use across the entire organisation. I had not been working there very long at that point but understand it was at least 2-3 years in the works.
In 2018, the very next year, they began working on a new project to completely change and replace that brand new system. Four years on, and they’re still not finished.
You can hardly call it an “old boys club” when the cabinet is fairly middle aged on average, with good albeit not perfect representation of women.
Incompetence and poor governance isn’t bound to a single sex or age group
I wonder wtf SF will do to the country, it’s worrying. They have no experience and just seem to support any populist cause. They have absolutely zero stance on Climate Change and no policy on how to cut emissions from agriculture etc. I have a feeling they’ll be a total disaster.
As much as I don’t like being fair to them, the slow projects, waste and salaries are all down to the civil service and will continue no matter who is in charge.
Can we not raise up against the government and pretty much have a coup because they clearly aren’t going the right way with this country? Or can the general public request a general election? Surely there is something us citizens of Ireland can do?
Nothing to suggest they are corrupt. They are useless fucks though.
SiNn fÉiN wilL dO a BeTtER jOb!!¡
incompetence and corruption aren’t the same thing.
Doesn’t matter who’s in power nothing ever really changes! Voting is a trick to make you think you have a say
They’re two centre right political parties and they have governed like how other centre right political parties have governed.