We wil have the first drop in forever in ‘cars on the road’ pretty soon.
I honestly dont get how people can afford their own car (non company car) fuel and the car itself is expensive. Add rent , rising energy and gas prices to that and you basically have no money left to buy food or enjoy yourself (except if you get like 3000 netto a month)
How will the governement compensate for the lost revenue in taxes when everyone drives electric tho?
No accijnzen, no road tax etc..
ik ben nu al 3 maand aan het wachten op mijn elektrische wagen, ze denken dat het volgend jaar april zal zijn, maar 3 maand geleden dachten ze nog dat ik hem nu al ging hebben. moet ik nu al mijn volgende bedrijfswagen selecteren zodat ik hem binnen 4 jaar ga krijgen? ik heb collega’s die al een jaar aan het wachten zijn op hun elektrische wagen en die zeker nog een jaar zullen moeten wachten.
A car isn’t environmentally friendly, no matter how it is powered. This push for “green cars” proves we will not fix the climate crisis. We will try to fake it but you can’t con the laws of physics.
I’m going full-time motorcycle when my car dies. Easier to maintain DIY, takes less space, consumes less fuel and way more fun. I’ll do get wet in the rain and my life expectancy probably goes down. But at least I’ll have fun while doing it.
Glad I could contribute with my new mild hybrid V6 diesel emitting 233 g/CO2 per km.
Since I can’t place a home charger and the city won’t place one (since there are 2 around the corner which are taken by sharing cars 100% of the time), I choose this one over the PHEV-version.
Now I just go skeleton.jpg while waiting for diesel prices to come back down.
Electric car or not, it is still a fucking car. Which will in part be powered by fucking gas plants. And yes they’ll have to beg to Engie to keep two nuclear reactors open.
It’s retarded that EV owners are still getting tax cuts (no BIV, no road tax, 100% fiscally deductible for companies, no fuel tax and even fucking premies which thankfully got abolished in 2020. EV owners don’t pay road tax while making use of public road network that has a very high maintenance cost just like anybody else (& nota bene EV’s actually cause more wear & tear on the public road because of the higher weight of electric cars)
This is short-sighted oversubsidiëring & awful financial planning that will have to be corrected down the line by making the whole population pay for it again. Turteltaks & Groenestroomcertificaten 2.0. General population will pay the price a couple of years from now for the luxuries that the only the upper percentiles (in terms of wealth) of the population are able to afford today. Using public money to fund luxuries for the rich under thinly veiled environmentalism & “green energy transition”.
A couple of years from now on they’re going to realize that the finances of it don’t actually make sense and that they have a massive deficit.
The government is like the kid that had to turn in their homework a decade ago and now they come back to the teacher asking if they can still turn in their homework. Kernuitstap law was legislated in fucking 2004 and in 2022 they are going to beg Engie to please keep two nuclear open for longer when they’ve been telling them for 18 fucking years they should close shop lmao. They had 18 fucking years to lay out the plans for replacement energy source and nothing fucking happened outside of maybe some gas plants lmao.
If the government actually fucking wanted to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels then they should also double down on massively reducing car dependency in the first place. Don’t need to look far for inspiration obviously. Just try to model our infrastructure & urban planning more like the Netherlands.
Electric cars are ok, but the true enlightenment is reducing the dependency on cars, which will have a shitload of other societal benefits. Like increasing socio-economic mobility, increasing youth happiness (less soccer moms driving them around and in turn you also have less stressed out soccer moms)…
I have a full EV and it’s more of a curse as a blessing. Only half of the gas stations along the highway have a charger and only half of these have a charger which actually works. Finding an available charger (which works) in the city is a small miracle as well and they’re tied to expensive and/or time limited parking spots so you’ll need to move it when it’s charged. Which generates an increasing amount of pointless traffic which we don’t want.
We are going to fuck this up if we don’t improve our attitude towards electric vehicles.
Company pushed to go ev or hybrid.
They also need to put the infrastructure at the office to allow charging of xx amounts of cars.
A lot of office building will need a massive amount of copper.
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We wil have the first drop in forever in ‘cars on the road’ pretty soon.
I honestly dont get how people can afford their own car (non company car) fuel and the car itself is expensive. Add rent , rising energy and gas prices to that and you basically have no money left to buy food or enjoy yourself (except if you get like 3000 netto a month)
How will the governement compensate for the lost revenue in taxes when everyone drives electric tho?
No accijnzen, no road tax etc..
ik ben nu al 3 maand aan het wachten op mijn elektrische wagen, ze denken dat het volgend jaar april zal zijn, maar 3 maand geleden dachten ze nog dat ik hem nu al ging hebben. moet ik nu al mijn volgende bedrijfswagen selecteren zodat ik hem binnen 4 jaar ga krijgen? ik heb collega’s die al een jaar aan het wachten zijn op hun elektrische wagen en die zeker nog een jaar zullen moeten wachten.
A car isn’t environmentally friendly, no matter how it is powered. This push for “green cars” proves we will not fix the climate crisis. We will try to fake it but you can’t con the laws of physics.
I’m going full-time motorcycle when my car dies. Easier to maintain DIY, takes less space, consumes less fuel and way more fun. I’ll do get wet in the rain and my life expectancy probably goes down. But at least I’ll have fun while doing it.
Glad I could contribute with my new mild hybrid V6 diesel emitting 233 g/CO2 per km.
Since I can’t place a home charger and the city won’t place one (since there are 2 around the corner which are taken by sharing cars 100% of the time), I choose this one over the PHEV-version.
Now I just go skeleton.jpg while waiting for diesel prices to come back down.
Electric car or not, it is still a fucking car. Which will in part be powered by fucking gas plants. And yes they’ll have to beg to Engie to keep two nuclear reactors open.
It’s retarded that EV owners are still getting tax cuts (no BIV, no road tax, 100% fiscally deductible for companies, no fuel tax and even fucking premies which thankfully got abolished in 2020. EV owners don’t pay road tax while making use of public road network that has a very high maintenance cost just like anybody else (& nota bene EV’s actually cause more wear & tear on the public road because of the higher weight of electric cars)
This is short-sighted oversubsidiëring & awful financial planning that will have to be corrected down the line by making the whole population pay for it again. Turteltaks & Groenestroomcertificaten 2.0. General population will pay the price a couple of years from now for the luxuries that the only the upper percentiles (in terms of wealth) of the population are able to afford today. Using public money to fund luxuries for the rich under thinly veiled environmentalism & “green energy transition”.
A couple of years from now on they’re going to realize that the finances of it don’t actually make sense and that they have a massive deficit.
The government is like the kid that had to turn in their homework a decade ago and now they come back to the teacher asking if they can still turn in their homework. Kernuitstap law was legislated in fucking 2004 and in 2022 they are going to beg Engie to please keep two nuclear open for longer when they’ve been telling them for 18 fucking years they should close shop lmao. They had 18 fucking years to lay out the plans for replacement energy source and nothing fucking happened outside of maybe some gas plants lmao.
If the government actually fucking wanted to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels then they should also double down on massively reducing car dependency in the first place. Don’t need to look far for inspiration obviously. Just try to model our infrastructure & urban planning more like the Netherlands.
Electric cars are ok, but the true enlightenment is reducing the dependency on cars, which will have a shitload of other societal benefits. Like increasing socio-economic mobility, increasing youth happiness (less soccer moms driving them around and in turn you also have less stressed out soccer moms)…
I have a full EV and it’s more of a curse as a blessing. Only half of the gas stations along the highway have a charger and only half of these have a charger which actually works. Finding an available charger (which works) in the city is a small miracle as well and they’re tied to expensive and/or time limited parking spots so you’ll need to move it when it’s charged. Which generates an increasing amount of pointless traffic which we don’t want.
We are going to fuck this up if we don’t improve our attitude towards electric vehicles.
Company pushed to go ev or hybrid.
They also need to put the infrastructure at the office to allow charging of xx amounts of cars.
A lot of office building will need a massive amount of copper.