Will this brave man seek to ban Circumcision as he so passionately hates mutilation especially of male genitals?
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OK and if someone wants to mutilate their own body then who are you to stop them?
Cutting open somebody’s chest to peform heart surgery is also mutilation but we do it so people can live healthier, happier and longer lives 🌈🌈
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>Speaking on Piers Morgan Uncensored on TalkTV, he said: “We can change our gender. We can do it by mutilating ourselves.
“We can remove bits of our body and change our shape and so on but you can’t change your sex because that is embedded in your genes in every cell of your body.”
What he’s saying isnt even that crazy, everyone agrees you cant change your sex but can change your gender. So why use this inflammatory language? Just seems so pointlessly hurtful to people.
By that logic, any surgery is mutilation, although somehow I don’t think he’d agree that taking out an appendix is just as bad.
Proof that you can be booksmart but have zero common sense or emotional intelligence right here.
Overwhelming scientific concensus shows that it improves the quality of life for people, it’s their choice. Don’t much care what some old 81 year old geeser has to say.
I mean let’s not sugar coat it: it is a very complex procedure with many health risks and issues during and after. The wording by Winston is not going to be seen as tasteful, but we can’t be naive about this.
So is any surgery? Appendix removal? Amputation of a limb? Pulling a tooth?
36 comments. 5 visible. You’re never going to win the argument when you never engage with it.
Oh hello 82 year old doctor. Please tell us your views based on modern day practices.
He’s not wrong…
Experts can be idiots
My body, I can do what I want with it
Robert is talking out of his backside
Isn’t this just a clunky medical term in context? It is the removal or severe damage of a body part.
I think ethically it’s very difficult for some medical professionals to get their heads around sex reassignment surgery, particularly in the UK where the NHS has a moral duty to perform only “necessary” surgeries because of its funding structure. Particularly when they know as trained medical professionals that you can’t actually achieve the desired aim of changing sex. To a trained urological surgeon it’s not much different to cosmetic surgery, ethically and economically.
I’m not saying sexual reassignment surgery isn’t necessary for the individual’s wellbeing, but when it’s stacked up against other urological surgeries there is an ethical and economic case many would make. In the US it’s very different because of private health care.
Of course this should be countered by the fact comparatively few transgender people do actually undergo reassignment surgery.
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Will this brave man seek to ban Circumcision as he so passionately hates mutilation especially of male genitals?
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OK and if someone wants to mutilate their own body then who are you to stop them?
Cutting open somebody’s chest to peform heart surgery is also mutilation but we do it so people can live healthier, happier and longer lives 🌈🌈
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>Speaking on Piers Morgan Uncensored on TalkTV, he said: “We can change our gender. We can do it by mutilating ourselves.
“We can remove bits of our body and change our shape and so on but you can’t change your sex because that is embedded in your genes in every cell of your body.”
What he’s saying isnt even that crazy, everyone agrees you cant change your sex but can change your gender. So why use this inflammatory language? Just seems so pointlessly hurtful to people.
By that logic, any surgery is mutilation, although somehow I don’t think he’d agree that taking out an appendix is just as bad.
Proof that you can be booksmart but have zero common sense or emotional intelligence right here.
Overwhelming scientific concensus shows that it improves the quality of life for people, it’s their choice. Don’t much care what some old 81 year old geeser has to say.
Here are some studies if curious:
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223813/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223813/)
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[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x)
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[https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696](https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/134/4/696)
I mean let’s not sugar coat it: it is a very complex procedure with many health risks and issues during and after. The wording by Winston is not going to be seen as tasteful, but we can’t be naive about this.
So is any surgery? Appendix removal? Amputation of a limb? Pulling a tooth?
36 comments. 5 visible. You’re never going to win the argument when you never engage with it.
Oh hello 82 year old doctor. Please tell us your views based on modern day practices.
He’s not wrong…
Experts can be idiots
My body, I can do what I want with it
Robert is talking out of his backside
Isn’t this just a clunky medical term in context? It is the removal or severe damage of a body part.
I think ethically it’s very difficult for some medical professionals to get their heads around sex reassignment surgery, particularly in the UK where the NHS has a moral duty to perform only “necessary” surgeries because of its funding structure. Particularly when they know as trained medical professionals that you can’t actually achieve the desired aim of changing sex. To a trained urological surgeon it’s not much different to cosmetic surgery, ethically and economically.
I’m not saying sexual reassignment surgery isn’t necessary for the individual’s wellbeing, but when it’s stacked up against other urological surgeries there is an ethical and economic case many would make. In the US it’s very different because of private health care.
Of course this should be countered by the fact comparatively few transgender people do actually undergo reassignment surgery.
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