so about 34m of 37m adults in England have had a vaccine, and we’re still experiencing a new wave
Ah, lets bash the unvaccinated – even though there is provably no more of a risk from them than a vaccinated person.
BBC are really desperate for anything to distract from the shitshow that is our government; yesterday it was the Telford gangs, and now this. Anyone care to guess what tomorrows headlines will be?
[e] To all the downvoters, spare a second to think about the difference in these scenarios:
..& then spare a second to think about whether there’s a snowballs chance in hell that any of those 3 million remaining adults haven’t actually caught COVID at this point, which despite what you might believe does actually give you better immunity than the vaccines can – and by a significant margin.
Honestly, the biggest risk factors were the idiots who got vaccinated, and then believed that they didn’t have to isolate, wear masks or socially distance – a mindset that was disturbingly common, especially in the older age groups.
This article is just a dumb distraction. People have a limited capacity for outrage – and if you’re wasting yours on shit like this, then you’re not using it on things that matter, like the shitshow in No. 10 right now and the Tories ignoring / destroying the democractic process.
Hopefully soon we will have an updated vaccine that is either multivalent focussed on BA.4 and BA.5, it is good that so many were vaccinated against the more severe early variants but it would be helpful if we had better protection against the now dominant strains to reduce transmission.
Only reason I got a booster was because I wouldn’t of been able to go on holiday,
Didn’t particularly want a 3rd and won’t be getting anymore.
My friend is a top lung consultant and he said that the people who are coming into his wards at the hospital (young and old) and suffering badly are the unvaccinated.
*Half* the population are *stupider* than the average person.
Who cares? Most of the population could probably be considered unvaccinated at this point because the current vaccines are shit and protection has already worn off.
Honestly I don’t give a fuck any more. they’ve made their beds. Despite what some people will have you believe, the risk of the unvaccinated to the vaccinated is negligible, they’re more of a risk to themselves.
Chances are also fairly high that a reasonable number of those 3m have had covid already so have some minor level of natural immunity
Time to move on from all this shite.
Who cares anymore. Move on.
This isn’t about stopping the pandemic or getting our rights back, it’s about the bitterness the compliant are feeling towards those who make different choices.
I got covid right at the beginning of the pandemic and although I wasn’t that bad to need to go to the hospital I was out for a good 5 days. 2nd time I got it after 2 vaccines I had a sore throat and that was it. 3 time I got it 2 months ago nothing. My grandparents have been safe the entire time and at 79 my grandad caught it just 3 days ago, he’s 4x vac and he just had a cough. Thank fuck vaccines work
Misread this as 3 metre adults and got very confused
kinda sad some people are just so happy to let disabled and/or immunodeficient people be sub-second class citizens
Had one vaccine. Gave me recurring pericarditis… not fun. Seem to be immune from getting covid. Multiple people in my house have had it and I just don’t get it, even unsymptomatically. Point is covid effecst everyone differently, which makes me think that if you have no vaccine and are not dead by now, just keep doing what you’re doing.
My wife works in a vaccination centre and whole families are rocking up wanting vaccinations as they are due to fly for holiday the next day. Some haven’t had their first and think you can have them both together. Some had the first a few weeks ago and want #2. Some have their children turned away as they need to come to specific children clinics and pre book (different vaccines).
They can get quite shouty “You’re ruining our family’s first holiday in 3 years”. Ehh, no you did that.
It isn’t as simple as vaccinated and unvaccinated with Covid. Lots of people who think they’re vaccinated have next to no protection as it only works for so long.
Given the R rate of omicron and that restrictions ended months ago I’m going to guess those 3m have probably all had covid at least once by now.
Ex Friend of a friend refused to take a lateral flow test before said friend’s wedding last year as she “didn’t trust putting a foreign object up her nose” and did not get the vaccine because “foreign objects in her body”. She ended friendships over it.
She then got a boob job.
And is now pregnant.
Nonsense. The deadliest plague in mankind has been around for two years. All the unvaccinated have perished. How else can they have survived without the miracle cocktail of life?
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I didn’t get the vaccines because I have an auto immune disease. I’ve had COVID twice it was very mild and I recovered in a matter of a few days on both occasions.
Everyone has their reasons, don’t be so quick to judge.
Hey, unvaccinated person here who is basically scared of needles, I had covid last month and apart from a bit of a temperature I was okay throughout.
41 year old male here, unvaccinated and I’ve had COVID once (back in Feb). I felt a bit rough for a week (no more than a bad cold). I was back to my routine within 10 days and I’ve had zero issues since.
I have a mate who is 45, triple vaccinated, yet suffered with COVID badly and is still struggling to do any form of physical exercise without getting breathless (3 months after getting COVID).
No vaccine here. Had covid, passed onto me by my fully vaccinated girlfriend.
Had a sore throat. Felt a bit tired for a day.
I’ve had worse colds.
Bring on the down votes.
When the vaccines first came out, I decided to wait a bit and see what happened before getting it
Then it turns out it loses it’s efficacy massively over time
Then you needed multiple boosters
Then it turns out it doesn’t actually stop you from catching or spreading Covid
practically all vaccinated people I knew started catching Covid. A nurse friend of mine didn’t want the vaccine but had to to keep his job, he was hospitalised from heart issues
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What’s weird to me is the mass psychological mob that formed out of the same people who used to hate Pfizer and big pharma and suddenly turned into their zealous cheerleaders
Do you guys realise that people with the vaccine can still spread covid to vulnerable people? Can we stop painting all people without vaccines as crazy conspiracy theorists, it’s just a choice and if someone does not feel like they need a vaccine who cares?
Why would you trust this government’s advice? They have lined their pockets with PPE scandals so i wouldn’t expect less with the vaccine.
I am immunocompromised and took the pandemic very seriously at the start. I didn’t leave the house for over a year, my front porch was basically a decontamination area for my partner with groceries/meds.
As time went on I stopped being as strict. To date, I have not had any vaccine for covid (I’m not anti vax) and I have never had covid.
If you’re on your 4th jab, you’ve been unvaccinated the whole time anyway…
3m adults in England are able to think for themselves
I had the vaccine and ended up in A&E shortly after. Horrendous chest pain, heart rate over 100, went up to 125 at one point just sitting there. I will not be getting any more covid vaccines.
In the meantime I have had and continue to support other vaccines.
Even some medical professionals are less than supportive or understanding of that decision. I honestly don’t get it, it appears that so many people are so pro a vaccine they can’t understand it might not be for everyone and if you don’t have it you are an “anti-vac” “conspiracy theorist”….
Let people choose, it is a choice, if you want the vaccine great, if you don’t or can’t then fine. Don’t discriminate or exclude anyone due to vaccine status.
We just need to get on with life, be understanding and put Covid behind us.
ONS data says that it’s actually ~18m who are unvaccinated against Covid, why is there such a big discrepancy between that data and this BBC article?
Seeing as vaccinated people are still catching Covid, and the vaccine does not in fact either prevent or reduce transmission, surely it’s up to the individual whether they get vaccinated or not.
Putting pressure on people to get a vaccine or medical condition that they don’t want in this instance is nothing short of immoral and cruel.
47000000 out of 50000000 is an excellent vaccine uptake. Far better than expected, I would have thought. Let’s move on.
As far as the “They’re taking up hospital beds” argument goes:
1 : They pay their taxes, and the NHS is for everyone. They are entitled to the bed.
2 : Does the same argument apply to all of you that smoke, drink, are obese, go skiing and break your leg, ride motorcycles and break your leg, bungee jumping, skydiving, absailing, etc etc?
I repeat – the NHS is for everyone UNCONDITIONALLY. If you start playing pick and choose then it ceases to be a health system that we should be proud of and instead becomes an authoritative one based on arbitrary conditions.
Yeah you’re not getting them vaccinated at this point.
Did a quick survey of coworkers a few weeks ago.
I myself have the three jabs, and guess its gonna be a fourth in the coming months. I’ve also managed to somehow get the rona at least twice (two separate times testing positive, and strongly suspect I had it very early on).
All well educated folks, and about a quarter of them deliberately chose to not get vaccinated due to (not entirely unwarranted according to some published papers) fears it would hurt fertility.
Does it matter? The vaccine seems to wear off very quickly.
As for myself I had two doses and still caught the rona a couple of months later. I’m not sure if I’d count as vaccinated or not but I’m not planning on any more doses.
I haven’t had one. Don’t want it or need it thanks.
So, who cares?! Everyone seems to be doing fine without it.
Isn’t vaccine efficacy against the Omicron subvariants less than 3 months? And even at the one-month mark, BA.5 evades vaccine immunity with ease, and efficacy overall may be much reduced over prior subvariants. I suspect many of the supposedly vaccinated in the UK actually have no immune protection at all via vaccine.
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How many am I supposed to have had by now? 5?
so about 34m of 37m adults in England have had a vaccine, and we’re still experiencing a new wave
Ah, lets bash the unvaccinated – even though there is provably no more of a risk from them than a vaccinated person.
BBC are really desperate for anything to distract from the shitshow that is our government; yesterday it was the Telford gangs, and now this. Anyone care to guess what tomorrows headlines will be?
[e] To all the downvoters, spare a second to think about the difference in these scenarios:
* Vaccinated person, catches COVID, isolates.
* Unvaccinated person, catches COVID, isolates.
..& then spare a second to think about whether there’s a snowballs chance in hell that any of those 3 million remaining adults haven’t actually caught COVID at this point, which despite what you might believe does actually give you better immunity than the vaccines can – and by a significant margin.
Honestly, the biggest risk factors were the idiots who got vaccinated, and then believed that they didn’t have to isolate, wear masks or socially distance – a mindset that was disturbingly common, especially in the older age groups.
This article is just a dumb distraction. People have a limited capacity for outrage – and if you’re wasting yours on shit like this, then you’re not using it on things that matter, like the shitshow in No. 10 right now and the Tories ignoring / destroying the democractic process.
Hopefully soon we will have an updated vaccine that is either multivalent focussed on BA.4 and BA.5, it is good that so many were vaccinated against the more severe early variants but it would be helpful if we had better protection against the now dominant strains to reduce transmission.
Only reason I got a booster was because I wouldn’t of been able to go on holiday,
Didn’t particularly want a 3rd and won’t be getting anymore.
My friend is a top lung consultant and he said that the people who are coming into his wards at the hospital (young and old) and suffering badly are the unvaccinated.
*Half* the population are *stupider* than the average person.
Who cares? Most of the population could probably be considered unvaccinated at this point because the current vaccines are shit and protection has already worn off.
Honestly I don’t give a fuck any more. they’ve made their beds. Despite what some people will have you believe, the risk of the unvaccinated to the vaccinated is negligible, they’re more of a risk to themselves.
Chances are also fairly high that a reasonable number of those 3m have had covid already so have some minor level of natural immunity
Time to move on from all this shite.
Who cares anymore. Move on.
This isn’t about stopping the pandemic or getting our rights back, it’s about the bitterness the compliant are feeling towards those who make different choices.
I got covid right at the beginning of the pandemic and although I wasn’t that bad to need to go to the hospital I was out for a good 5 days. 2nd time I got it after 2 vaccines I had a sore throat and that was it. 3 time I got it 2 months ago nothing. My grandparents have been safe the entire time and at 79 my grandad caught it just 3 days ago, he’s 4x vac and he just had a cough. Thank fuck vaccines work
Misread this as 3 metre adults and got very confused
kinda sad some people are just so happy to let disabled and/or immunodeficient people be sub-second class citizens
Had one vaccine. Gave me recurring pericarditis… not fun. Seem to be immune from getting covid. Multiple people in my house have had it and I just don’t get it, even unsymptomatically. Point is covid effecst everyone differently, which makes me think that if you have no vaccine and are not dead by now, just keep doing what you’re doing.
My wife works in a vaccination centre and whole families are rocking up wanting vaccinations as they are due to fly for holiday the next day. Some haven’t had their first and think you can have them both together. Some had the first a few weeks ago and want #2. Some have their children turned away as they need to come to specific children clinics and pre book (different vaccines).
They can get quite shouty “You’re ruining our family’s first holiday in 3 years”. Ehh, no you did that.
It isn’t as simple as vaccinated and unvaccinated with Covid. Lots of people who think they’re vaccinated have next to no protection as it only works for so long.
Given the R rate of omicron and that restrictions ended months ago I’m going to guess those 3m have probably all had covid at least once by now.
Ex Friend of a friend refused to take a lateral flow test before said friend’s wedding last year as she “didn’t trust putting a foreign object up her nose” and did not get the vaccine because “foreign objects in her body”. She ended friendships over it.
She then got a boob job.
And is now pregnant.
Nonsense. The deadliest plague in mankind has been around for two years. All the unvaccinated have perished. How else can they have survived without the miracle cocktail of life?
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I didn’t get the vaccines because I have an auto immune disease. I’ve had COVID twice it was very mild and I recovered in a matter of a few days on both occasions.
Everyone has their reasons, don’t be so quick to judge.
Hey, unvaccinated person here who is basically scared of needles, I had covid last month and apart from a bit of a temperature I was okay throughout.
41 year old male here, unvaccinated and I’ve had COVID once (back in Feb). I felt a bit rough for a week (no more than a bad cold). I was back to my routine within 10 days and I’ve had zero issues since.
I have a mate who is 45, triple vaccinated, yet suffered with COVID badly and is still struggling to do any form of physical exercise without getting breathless (3 months after getting COVID).
No vaccine here. Had covid, passed onto me by my fully vaccinated girlfriend.
Had a sore throat. Felt a bit tired for a day.
I’ve had worse colds.
Bring on the down votes.
When the vaccines first came out, I decided to wait a bit and see what happened before getting it
Then it turns out it loses it’s efficacy massively over time
Then you needed multiple boosters
Then it turns out it doesn’t actually stop you from catching or spreading Covid
practically all vaccinated people I knew started catching Covid. A nurse friend of mine didn’t want the vaccine but had to to keep his job, he was hospitalised from heart issues
​
What’s weird to me is the mass psychological mob that formed out of the same people who used to hate Pfizer and big pharma and suddenly turned into their zealous cheerleaders
Do you guys realise that people with the vaccine can still spread covid to vulnerable people? Can we stop painting all people without vaccines as crazy conspiracy theorists, it’s just a choice and if someone does not feel like they need a vaccine who cares?
Why would you trust this government’s advice? They have lined their pockets with PPE scandals so i wouldn’t expect less with the vaccine.
I am immunocompromised and took the pandemic very seriously at the start. I didn’t leave the house for over a year, my front porch was basically a decontamination area for my partner with groceries/meds.
As time went on I stopped being as strict. To date, I have not had any vaccine for covid (I’m not anti vax) and I have never had covid.
If you’re on your 4th jab, you’ve been unvaccinated the whole time anyway…
3m adults in England are able to think for themselves
I had the vaccine and ended up in A&E shortly after. Horrendous chest pain, heart rate over 100, went up to 125 at one point just sitting there. I will not be getting any more covid vaccines.
In the meantime I have had and continue to support other vaccines.
Even some medical professionals are less than supportive or understanding of that decision. I honestly don’t get it, it appears that so many people are so pro a vaccine they can’t understand it might not be for everyone and if you don’t have it you are an “anti-vac” “conspiracy theorist”….
Let people choose, it is a choice, if you want the vaccine great, if you don’t or can’t then fine. Don’t discriminate or exclude anyone due to vaccine status.
We just need to get on with life, be understanding and put Covid behind us.
ONS data says that it’s actually ~18m who are unvaccinated against Covid, why is there such a big discrepancy between that data and this BBC article?
Seeing as vaccinated people are still catching Covid, and the vaccine does not in fact either prevent or reduce transmission, surely it’s up to the individual whether they get vaccinated or not.
Putting pressure on people to get a vaccine or medical condition that they don’t want in this instance is nothing short of immoral and cruel.
47000000 out of 50000000 is an excellent vaccine uptake. Far better than expected, I would have thought. Let’s move on.
As far as the “They’re taking up hospital beds” argument goes:
1 : They pay their taxes, and the NHS is for everyone. They are entitled to the bed.
2 : Does the same argument apply to all of you that smoke, drink, are obese, go skiing and break your leg, ride motorcycles and break your leg, bungee jumping, skydiving, absailing, etc etc?
I repeat – the NHS is for everyone UNCONDITIONALLY. If you start playing pick and choose then it ceases to be a health system that we should be proud of and instead becomes an authoritative one based on arbitrary conditions.
Yeah you’re not getting them vaccinated at this point.
Did a quick survey of coworkers a few weeks ago.
I myself have the three jabs, and guess its gonna be a fourth in the coming months. I’ve also managed to somehow get the rona at least twice (two separate times testing positive, and strongly suspect I had it very early on).
All well educated folks, and about a quarter of them deliberately chose to not get vaccinated due to (not entirely unwarranted according to some published papers) fears it would hurt fertility.
Does it matter? The vaccine seems to wear off very quickly.
As for myself I had two doses and still caught the rona a couple of months later. I’m not sure if I’d count as vaccinated or not but I’m not planning on any more doses.
I haven’t had one. Don’t want it or need it thanks.
So, who cares?! Everyone seems to be doing fine without it.
Isn’t vaccine efficacy against the Omicron subvariants less than 3 months? And even at the one-month mark, BA.5 evades vaccine immunity with ease, and efficacy overall may be much reduced over prior subvariants. I suspect many of the supposedly vaccinated in the UK actually have no immune protection at all via vaccine.