In my country any MP can table a no confindence vote.
What’s the difference between what Labour did with the VONC and what the Tories are doing with this VONC? It says they’re able to frame the discussion in their favour but I don’t understand what difference is?
The labour VONC was in bojo; i.e. it had a chance (a small one) of passing, if the tories who resigned had a fraction of a spine.
This VONC is in the government itself; i.e. it has no chance of passing, makes the Tories look good (“we passed a VONC, and yet labour keeps telling us to quit”), and they can all but guarantee no rebellions from the Tories – I doubt you’re going to get reselected if you stand up and say you have no confidence in *the entire tory party*…
You can’t fire me, I quit.
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We need this fucking muppet out now and then they need to steamroll the Covid enquiry through ASAP so they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all those poor 200,000 people died because of Boris and the Tories demented ideology, and then throw the fucker in jail until he rots.
That would constitute the closest thing to justice we could imagine on this tired, international joke of an island.
“You can’t fire me, I quit!”
So by my understanding Labours VONC was against the government with Johnson in charge, which could have had the possibility of a VONC to pass but not be a GE as Johnson could be replaced in the meantime during the Tory leadership contest. Whereas this VONC is just against the government, effectively forcing the Tories to either defend against the VONC or allow a GE.
That really doesn’t seem right as imo it feels like Labs VONC got effectively hijacked and reworded to protect Johnson’s position as ‘caretaker’ PM.
I hold MYSELF in contempt! Why should you be any different!?
>because the PM has already resigned.
No he hasn’t. He won’t be resigning until he submits his letter of resignation to the Queen on September 6th. Johnson has so far only resigned as leader of the Conservative Party.
It would be hilarious if they lost this VOC though.
Well, with as many U-turns as this government has, this was not one I saw coming at all.
Absolute mental gymnastics after the No.10 spokesperson accused Labour of “playing politics” and stating “we do not feel this is a valuable use of parliamentary time”.
I suspect this was a time saving strategy to get a message out to Tory MP’s.
Can we do a petition for general election?
There’ve been a few times, I’ll admit, where I’ve mistaken a Newsthump headline for a genuine piece of news.
I think this might be the first time I’ve mistaken a genuine piece of news for a Newsthump headline though…
Eh that’s just petty. “We’re not against the VONC, we just don’t want YOU to do it”
OK, new rule: if you table a no-confidence motion in yourself, you just resigned.
In 1965, the Tories tabled a vote of no confidence that specifically named Harold Wilson. So there is precedent for Labour’s motion, set by the Tories.
Just more “rules for thee but not for me” from the Tories, who are heading towards far-right fascism at an alarming pace. And they have the cheek to accuse Labour of “playing politics.”
Really hope Sunak wins, there’s no chance the Tories will win the next GE if he’s the leader.
In itself!? 👇👈👆👉
So what happens with this. It doesn’t say if it will be debated or anything else
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What does tables mean exactly?
“You can’t fire me, I quit!”
In my country any MP can table a no confindence vote.
What’s the difference between what Labour did with the VONC and what the Tories are doing with this VONC? It says they’re able to frame the discussion in their favour but I don’t understand what difference is?
The labour VONC was in bojo; i.e. it had a chance (a small one) of passing, if the tories who resigned had a fraction of a spine.
This VONC is in the government itself; i.e. it has no chance of passing, makes the Tories look good (“we passed a VONC, and yet labour keeps telling us to quit”), and they can all but guarantee no rebellions from the Tories – I doubt you’re going to get reselected if you stand up and say you have no confidence in *the entire tory party*…
You can’t fire me, I quit.
More political jokes from the political jokester
We need this fucking muppet out now and then they need to steamroll the Covid enquiry through ASAP so they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that all those poor 200,000 people died because of Boris and the Tories demented ideology, and then throw the fucker in jail until he rots.
That would constitute the closest thing to justice we could imagine on this tired, international joke of an island.
“You can’t fire me, I quit!”
So by my understanding Labours VONC was against the government with Johnson in charge, which could have had the possibility of a VONC to pass but not be a GE as Johnson could be replaced in the meantime during the Tory leadership contest. Whereas this VONC is just against the government, effectively forcing the Tories to either defend against the VONC or allow a GE.
That really doesn’t seem right as imo it feels like Labs VONC got effectively hijacked and reworded to protect Johnson’s position as ‘caretaker’ PM.
I hold MYSELF in contempt! Why should you be any different!?
>because the PM has already resigned.
No he hasn’t. He won’t be resigning until he submits his letter of resignation to the Queen on September 6th. Johnson has so far only resigned as leader of the Conservative Party.
It would be hilarious if they lost this VOC though.
Well, with as many U-turns as this government has, this was not one I saw coming at all.
Absolute mental gymnastics after the No.10 spokesperson accused Labour of “playing politics” and stating “we do not feel this is a valuable use of parliamentary time”.
I suspect this was a time saving strategy to get a message out to Tory MP’s.
Can we do a petition for general election?
There’ve been a few times, I’ll admit, where I’ve mistaken a Newsthump headline for a genuine piece of news.
I think this might be the first time I’ve mistaken a genuine piece of news for a Newsthump headline though…
Eh that’s just petty. “We’re not against the VONC, we just don’t want YOU to do it”
OK, new rule: if you table a no-confidence motion in yourself, you just resigned.
In 1965, the Tories tabled a vote of no confidence that specifically named Harold Wilson. So there is precedent for Labour’s motion, set by the Tories.
Just more “rules for thee but not for me” from the Tories, who are heading towards far-right fascism at an alarming pace. And they have the cheek to accuse Labour of “playing politics.”
Really hope Sunak wins, there’s no chance the Tories will win the next GE if he’s the leader.
In itself!? 👇👈👆👉
So what happens with this. It doesn’t say if it will be debated or anything else