The same farmers who will be calling for government support during the next fodder crisis……
Reducing the herd might help our emissions targets,but won’t do anything for global emissions when any deficit is taken up elsewhere.
So he wants to reduce the herd size here and then we’ll rely on flying in beef from Brazil and Argentina in a few years. Seems completely backwards in terms of tackling environmental issues.
They buy far too much fertilizer anyways and the vast majority have no idea how to correctly use it…..
Ryan poisoned the well with rural voters already, he and the greens are despised for saying that rural people should carpool to cut down on emissions. And notice I said rural voters and that includes farmers and others. Any suggestion on policy towards farmers from him will be met with huge resistance, it would have been already before but since he made that made comment it tripled it.
On the farmers side: the push from the government and the industry has been increase herd size, improve efficiency, invest in technology and improve standards. Emissions wouldn’t even have been in the top 10 priorities, other environmental areas would have though.
Cutting the size of the national herd during a global food crisis…. Fucking genius, as if meat was not prohibit-ably expensive enough already we can inflate the price even more……….
Thing is…Eamon’s right. You might not like it but there’s no way out of climate change without reducing the size and intensity of livestock farming
Farming community are the worst Mé Féiners to be fair. Always the victim, never willing to compromise.
Whatever about Ryan and the Greens’ city-centric focus, Irish farmers can’t accuse anyone else of being full of shit and ignorant.
Thank fuck the Greens will be gone in the next election
Farmers are some of the greediest fuckers going. They’ll cry poor but get a shit tonne of benefits and not say a word. Never mind active price fixing and uncompetitive practices
Good old Eamon with a pure politician’s statement.
Gaslight people into getting what he wants, with no way for him to guarantee a smaller herd means more money, and if it comes to pass that he was wrong he’ll be long gone and not expected to pay up to make the difference.
The issue is is that food production is global. The tragedy of the commons! Ireland reducing herd numbers would just increase them elsewhere.
What we need to do is target meat consumption.
Man made or not we do have to change and adapt to climate change as we are not going to revert it.
Traditional farming methods just wont cut it in the near future so evolve or we are going to be in more trouble
I propose we use less cows but make them bigger. Like if you had 8 cows, but they were each 375 feet tall, that’s a lot of milk and beef.
Okay but I genuinely don’t understand how the farming community can expect to keep growing infinitely forever with no changes.
Cattle farming especially is terrible for the environment and completely unsustainable. But cattle farmers act like they have a divine right to the practice?
We should reduce the size of the national herd. Of course we should
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was branding the collective headcount of the hundreds, if not thousands, of individual privately operated farms run for personal profit on the island “the national herd”.
I don’t think the Green Party is really a green party. Practically all their policies disproportionately affect rural people.
Dublin is a whole different ballgame to the rest of the country. You don’t see wind turbines in Dublin. You don’t see cycle lanes on rural roads, even though you could have a group of twenty cyclists on a Sunday morning. There is no public transport in rural areas, some places might have one bus in the morning and the evening. The Green Party are also delaying the construction of roads in the south. What are people supposed to do? There is no alternative to driving. The only people who cycle in the countryside do it for exercise/recreation.
The Green Party also wants to get rid of cows, cows do produce a Green House gas, methane. However, methane, unlike carbon dioxide, does not stay in the atmosphere permanently. Methane goes away after a while.
Maybe if the Green Party built massive offshore wind farms, like Denmark. They might be more Green.
This man invented a money glitch
Cattle farming is an environmental and ethical disaster.
The subsidies & farms are getting bigger because it’s impossible to do it sustainably.
Farmers need to wake up to the present
I’ve said it once and I’m going to keep saying it… Eamon Ryan is a cunt, the green party are cunts and if you voted for them or supported them in any way you are a cunt
Where are the socialists and communists when you need them.
I thought they were all about the working class farmers?
The farming sector gets €50 billion in subsidies EU wide and Irish farmers €1b every year. Cut the subsidies, or divert to more sustainable practises, and they will have to charge more, meat should be a luxury item anyway
Forget unmarried mothers in council estates, farmers are the biggest welfare queens in the country. Polluting, corrupt, money-grubbing sponges. Your “business” is not viable so we get to subsidise it while you retain all your generational capital. Fuck off!
he’s probably right though.
Over production leads to cheaper sales price.
Farmers need to get the price up more and produce less.
r/ireland hates farmers.
Farmers completely destroyed our country to the profit of few. Our poor Ireland is a desert of grass. Wild animals and plants have been exterminated.
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The same farmers who will be calling for government support during the next fodder crisis……
Reducing the herd might help our emissions targets,but won’t do anything for global emissions when any deficit is taken up elsewhere.
So he wants to reduce the herd size here and then we’ll rely on flying in beef from Brazil and Argentina in a few years. Seems completely backwards in terms of tackling environmental issues.
They buy far too much fertilizer anyways and the vast majority have no idea how to correctly use it…..
Ryan poisoned the well with rural voters already, he and the greens are despised for saying that rural people should carpool to cut down on emissions. And notice I said rural voters and that includes farmers and others. Any suggestion on policy towards farmers from him will be met with huge resistance, it would have been already before but since he made that made comment it tripled it.
On the farmers side: the push from the government and the industry has been increase herd size, improve efficiency, invest in technology and improve standards. Emissions wouldn’t even have been in the top 10 priorities, other environmental areas would have though.
Cutting the size of the national herd during a global food crisis…. Fucking genius, as if meat was not prohibit-ably expensive enough already we can inflate the price even more……….
Thing is…Eamon’s right. You might not like it but there’s no way out of climate change without reducing the size and intensity of livestock farming
Farming community are the worst Mé Féiners to be fair. Always the victim, never willing to compromise.
Whatever about Ryan and the Greens’ city-centric focus, Irish farmers can’t accuse anyone else of being full of shit and ignorant.
Thank fuck the Greens will be gone in the next election
Farmers are some of the greediest fuckers going. They’ll cry poor but get a shit tonne of benefits and not say a word. Never mind active price fixing and uncompetitive practices
Good old Eamon with a pure politician’s statement.
Gaslight people into getting what he wants, with no way for him to guarantee a smaller herd means more money, and if it comes to pass that he was wrong he’ll be long gone and not expected to pay up to make the difference.
The issue is is that food production is global. The tragedy of the commons! Ireland reducing herd numbers would just increase them elsewhere.
What we need to do is target meat consumption.
Man made or not we do have to change and adapt to climate change as we are not going to revert it.
Traditional farming methods just wont cut it in the near future so evolve or we are going to be in more trouble
I propose we use less cows but make them bigger. Like if you had 8 cows, but they were each 375 feet tall, that’s a lot of milk and beef.
Okay but I genuinely don’t understand how the farming community can expect to keep growing infinitely forever with no changes.
Cattle farming especially is terrible for the environment and completely unsustainable. But cattle farmers act like they have a divine right to the practice?
We should reduce the size of the national herd. Of course we should
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was branding the collective headcount of the hundreds, if not thousands, of individual privately operated farms run for personal profit on the island “the national herd”.
I don’t think the Green Party is really a green party. Practically all their policies disproportionately affect rural people.
Dublin is a whole different ballgame to the rest of the country. You don’t see wind turbines in Dublin. You don’t see cycle lanes on rural roads, even though you could have a group of twenty cyclists on a Sunday morning. There is no public transport in rural areas, some places might have one bus in the morning and the evening. The Green Party are also delaying the construction of roads in the south. What are people supposed to do? There is no alternative to driving. The only people who cycle in the countryside do it for exercise/recreation.
The Green Party also wants to get rid of cows, cows do produce a Green House gas, methane. However, methane, unlike carbon dioxide, does not stay in the atmosphere permanently. Methane goes away after a while.
Maybe if the Green Party built massive offshore wind farms, like Denmark. They might be more Green.
This man invented a money glitch
Cattle farming is an environmental and ethical disaster.
The subsidies & farms are getting bigger because it’s impossible to do it sustainably.
Farmers need to wake up to the present
I’ve said it once and I’m going to keep saying it… Eamon Ryan is a cunt, the green party are cunts and if you voted for them or supported them in any way you are a cunt
Where are the socialists and communists when you need them.
I thought they were all about the working class farmers?
The farming sector gets €50 billion in subsidies EU wide and Irish farmers €1b every year. Cut the subsidies, or divert to more sustainable practises, and they will have to charge more, meat should be a luxury item anyway
Forget unmarried mothers in council estates, farmers are the biggest welfare queens in the country. Polluting, corrupt, money-grubbing sponges. Your “business” is not viable so we get to subsidise it while you retain all your generational capital. Fuck off!
he’s probably right though.
Over production leads to cheaper sales price.
Farmers need to get the price up more and produce less.
r/ireland hates farmers.
Farmers completely destroyed our country to the profit of few. Our poor Ireland is a desert of grass. Wild animals and plants have been exterminated.