Rainbow families and same-sex couples should have the same freedom of movement and family reunification rights as others. Commission should take action against Romania, Hungary and Poland for breaches of EU values.
Lol your post history, what is this spam?
Map is wrong. Croatia is light blue.
Marriage is a legal entity requiring three components: A couple of legal age and capacity and status; solemnification and a public holding-out; and the state. The state is also usually the one recognizing which ceremonies or solemnification ceremonies it will accept as valid — from a village church wedding to a giant backyard Hindu *Mandap* to a civil ceremony and some paperwork.
Those are deeply historical, cultural, and religious determinations made by the sovereign peoples of a nation that existed *well* before the EU. You cannot and ought not externally and *post hoc* legislate what that creature of statute must be, whereby the will of the EC or MEPs in Brussels substitutes itself for the state, as well as negates the preexisting sovereign will. You had your chance to complain or extract concessions at the time of accession.
Nothing in the Rome charter says that what is within the rule of law and adheres to a general rights-based western democracy gets to be a moving target, gets to be dictated to from without (particularly by Western Europe), and after modification acts as a veto on pre-existing legal relationships within another state.
This is backdoor political federalization, at best, and cultural imperialism using economic hostage-taking at worst.
I have to remind You that it is new thing. It wasn’t legal for hundreds of years. Even worse – western Europe prosecuted it harder than eastern before. Last 15 years changed europe.
So just give time to the rest. Don’t force and criticize if somebody is just little slower in comprehension of new concepts. Otherwise it will create conflicts, resistance and effect will be opposite.
Hell yeah, we finally made it
In my country, LGBT, civil partnership and same-sex marriage is bad but cheating on wifes/husbands and divorce is fine. Conservative values my ass. EU should criticize my country.
59%of people here in Hungary are against same sex marriage,so if it got legalized,there would be large protests across the country.
Absolutely the EU should protect human rights
When Lebanon and Israel cease to exist:
C’mon Italy, even Germany got them before you!
I personally think this is a human rights issue and banning LGBTQ+ relationships and not recognising them is a human rights violation that goes against the values of the European Union.
EU should fine member states that commit human rights violations and if they don’t like it and want to do their own thing they should just do so and leave the Union.
Except it’s not Christian.
Come on Poland, get it together!
Is marriage a religious tradition or not? Depending on the answer I agree with the title or not. Some people consider marriage too widespread in our culture to be considered a religious tradition anymore.
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Rainbow families and same-sex couples should have the same freedom of movement and family reunification rights as others. Commission should take action against Romania, Hungary and Poland for breaches of EU values.
Lol your post history, what is this spam?
Map is wrong. Croatia is light blue.
Marriage is a legal entity requiring three components: A couple of legal age and capacity and status; solemnification and a public holding-out; and the state. The state is also usually the one recognizing which ceremonies or solemnification ceremonies it will accept as valid — from a village church wedding to a giant backyard Hindu *Mandap* to a civil ceremony and some paperwork.
Those are deeply historical, cultural, and religious determinations made by the sovereign peoples of a nation that existed *well* before the EU. You cannot and ought not externally and *post hoc* legislate what that creature of statute must be, whereby the will of the EC or MEPs in Brussels substitutes itself for the state, as well as negates the preexisting sovereign will. You had your chance to complain or extract concessions at the time of accession.
Nothing in the Rome charter says that what is within the rule of law and adheres to a general rights-based western democracy gets to be a moving target, gets to be dictated to from without (particularly by Western Europe), and after modification acts as a veto on pre-existing legal relationships within another state.
This is backdoor political federalization, at best, and cultural imperialism using economic hostage-taking at worst.
I have to remind You that it is new thing. It wasn’t legal for hundreds of years. Even worse – western Europe prosecuted it harder than eastern before. Last 15 years changed europe.
>https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/mcs/media/images/83633000/jpg/_83633596_new_new_samesex_map_new.jpg
So just give time to the rest. Don’t force and criticize if somebody is just little slower in comprehension of new concepts. Otherwise it will create conflicts, resistance and effect will be opposite.
Hell yeah, we finally made it
In my country, LGBT, civil partnership and same-sex marriage is bad but cheating on wifes/husbands and divorce is fine. Conservative values my ass. EU should criticize my country.
59%of people here in Hungary are against same sex marriage,so if it got legalized,there would be large protests across the country.
Absolutely the EU should protect human rights
When Lebanon and Israel cease to exist:
C’mon Italy, even Germany got them before you!
I personally think this is a human rights issue and banning LGBTQ+ relationships and not recognising them is a human rights violation that goes against the values of the European Union.
EU should fine member states that commit human rights violations and if they don’t like it and want to do their own thing they should just do so and leave the Union.
Except it’s not Christian.
Come on Poland, get it together!
Is marriage a religious tradition or not? Depending on the answer I agree with the title or not. Some people consider marriage too widespread in our culture to be considered a religious tradition anymore.