Welp, at least the ambulance made its target for attending that case, and I’m hoping the patient was triaged ahead of the queue.
This is genuinely horrible, and I feel sorry for anyone stuck in this position. This sucks.
Absolute miracle this doesn’t happen more often. And although the article focuses on performance of the trust, the only way to fix this is to fix social care. People can’t get in because people can’t get out. Luckily the tax rise which will fix social care comes in soon /s
Ours has been one of the worst in the country for this, and for quite a while
Is this what living with Covid looks like?
Hmmm… That hits home.
When I had a heart attack last November I sat in an ambulance for 4 1/2 hours before going into A&E. Once I was admitted I spent over 3 days on a gurney before getting a place on the acute cardiac ward.
I’m fairly sure that this was entirely down to bed blocking as social services were unable to provide care for vulnerable patient on discharge.
Obviously I survived but I would be interested to see the numbers of patient’s who don’t make it through A&E at the moment compared to 10 years ago.
Well obviously the NHS isn’t fit for purpose. What we need is some kind privately funded group to swing in and help, do you think our MPs know of any group like that?
350 million extra for NHS ye?
Not shocked, 8 in the morning there is about 6+ ambulances waiting.
Did they ask him to pronounce the name of the hospital?
Meanwhile government announces sub inflationary pay “rises” for healthcare workers year on year and wonders why the whole thing is going down the drain….
The whole NHS is one big pile of inefficiency. They call for more money all the time, yet if the y even just turned the heating off when it is warm I’m sure they would start by saving a fortune. That’s before you even start picking apart the dreadful admin, ridiculous levels of management etc.
I’m amazed this isn’t regular. I am also amazed there’s not a “holding pen” at hospitals. Something to free up ambulance drivers to actually do their jobs
When my dad sadly died, he was rushed to hospital. He sat 5 hours in an ambulance outside waiting for space. I managed to drive 3 hours and get to the hospital before he was admitted! When I broke my ankle, I had a huge wait of 3 hours for an ambulance and then sat in a queue of other ambulances for 2 hours.
Adding…having read more posts, it appears I have done very well and not even seen the very worse! I couldn’t work in a and e or as a paramedic. I don’t even know how they manage to stay sane and do it
At least he was in the ambulance with trained paramedics. Rather than abandoned on a trolley in a hospital corridor with nobody looking out for him. The NHS leader’s response to the ambulance crisis has been to try and achieve more of the latter in order to ‘move responsibility into the hospital’. This would free up ambulances and give the illusion of improvement but also create myriad even less safe situations at the other end. There is no room and for the room we do have, no staff. TL;DR The whole thing is supremely broken!
My best friend who is 27 recently had a mini heart attack, spent around 12 hours in the back of an ambulance outside the hospital waiting for a bed to be freed up. Bear in mind I live in Plymouth, served by Derriford Hospital which is one of the largest hospitals in the South West, and actively serves all of Devon and Cornwall, and for some services all the way past Bristol too. The local NHS around here has been swamped over the last year or so.
To put it bluntly, we need some radical changes to the NHS, and we kinda need them now (or yesterday). We need more GPs, and we need to encourage more, we need more doctors generally (not just specialised ones) and we need more nurses. We need a three pronged attack on this, so we need to actually sort out the short term issues by perhaps “borrowing” private hospitals and private surgeries to alleviate the pressures now. We need to encourage more people to become Doctors and Nurses, and give back grants to these fields so that those who want to go to University and study have a chance to do so with a grant that helps cover their fees. And finally we need to go scouting for world class Doctors across the world and entice them here with a good resettling package and pay packet.
These problems shouldn’t be plaguing this country. It really shouldn’t. Half the reason why it is, is because of staff shortages, hospitals that were shut years ago (ie the cottage hospitals) and a lack of appointments from GPs which is causing people not to bother with GPs and go straight to hospital instead.
You can blame couple of things:
Tories, for cutting social care funding making it more difficult to discharge complex patients,
Tories, for forcing people who work minimum wage care jobs back to their countries because they couldn’t get their loved ones here anymore because of Brexit
Tories for forcing highly qualified staff to leave due to Brexit
Tories for being old cunts themselves, THEM always getting top notch NHS care (remember Boris being admitted, magically finding a place for him in one of the best hospitals in the country?)
Oh, you can also blame Tories for fucking up covid policies which created a huge backlog of patients which now made them worse, making entire system be under even more pressure
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Welp, at least the ambulance made its target for attending that case, and I’m hoping the patient was triaged ahead of the queue.
This is genuinely horrible, and I feel sorry for anyone stuck in this position. This sucks.
Absolute miracle this doesn’t happen more often. And although the article focuses on performance of the trust, the only way to fix this is to fix social care. People can’t get in because people can’t get out. Luckily the tax rise which will fix social care comes in soon /s
Ours has been one of the worst in the country for this, and for quite a while
Is this what living with Covid looks like?
Hmmm… That hits home.
When I had a heart attack last November I sat in an ambulance for 4 1/2 hours before going into A&E. Once I was admitted I spent over 3 days on a gurney before getting a place on the acute cardiac ward.
I’m fairly sure that this was entirely down to bed blocking as social services were unable to provide care for vulnerable patient on discharge.
Obviously I survived but I would be interested to see the numbers of patient’s who don’t make it through A&E at the moment compared to 10 years ago.
Well obviously the NHS isn’t fit for purpose. What we need is some kind privately funded group to swing in and help, do you think our MPs know of any group like that?
350 million extra for NHS ye?
Not shocked, 8 in the morning there is about 6+ ambulances waiting.
Did they ask him to pronounce the name of the hospital?
Meanwhile government announces sub inflationary pay “rises” for healthcare workers year on year and wonders why the whole thing is going down the drain….
The whole NHS is one big pile of inefficiency. They call for more money all the time, yet if the y even just turned the heating off when it is warm I’m sure they would start by saving a fortune. That’s before you even start picking apart the dreadful admin, ridiculous levels of management etc.
I’m amazed this isn’t regular. I am also amazed there’s not a “holding pen” at hospitals. Something to free up ambulance drivers to actually do their jobs
When my dad sadly died, he was rushed to hospital. He sat 5 hours in an ambulance outside waiting for space. I managed to drive 3 hours and get to the hospital before he was admitted! When I broke my ankle, I had a huge wait of 3 hours for an ambulance and then sat in a queue of other ambulances for 2 hours.
Adding…having read more posts, it appears I have done very well and not even seen the very worse! I couldn’t work in a and e or as a paramedic. I don’t even know how they manage to stay sane and do it
At least he was in the ambulance with trained paramedics. Rather than abandoned on a trolley in a hospital corridor with nobody looking out for him. The NHS leader’s response to the ambulance crisis has been to try and achieve more of the latter in order to ‘move responsibility into the hospital’. This would free up ambulances and give the illusion of improvement but also create myriad even less safe situations at the other end. There is no room and for the room we do have, no staff. TL;DR The whole thing is supremely broken!
My best friend who is 27 recently had a mini heart attack, spent around 12 hours in the back of an ambulance outside the hospital waiting for a bed to be freed up. Bear in mind I live in Plymouth, served by Derriford Hospital which is one of the largest hospitals in the South West, and actively serves all of Devon and Cornwall, and for some services all the way past Bristol too. The local NHS around here has been swamped over the last year or so.
To put it bluntly, we need some radical changes to the NHS, and we kinda need them now (or yesterday). We need more GPs, and we need to encourage more, we need more doctors generally (not just specialised ones) and we need more nurses. We need a three pronged attack on this, so we need to actually sort out the short term issues by perhaps “borrowing” private hospitals and private surgeries to alleviate the pressures now. We need to encourage more people to become Doctors and Nurses, and give back grants to these fields so that those who want to go to University and study have a chance to do so with a grant that helps cover their fees. And finally we need to go scouting for world class Doctors across the world and entice them here with a good resettling package and pay packet.
These problems shouldn’t be plaguing this country. It really shouldn’t. Half the reason why it is, is because of staff shortages, hospitals that were shut years ago (ie the cottage hospitals) and a lack of appointments from GPs which is causing people not to bother with GPs and go straight to hospital instead.
You can blame couple of things:
Tories, for cutting social care funding making it more difficult to discharge complex patients,
Tories, for forcing people who work minimum wage care jobs back to their countries because they couldn’t get their loved ones here anymore because of Brexit
Tories for forcing highly qualified staff to leave due to Brexit
Tories for being old cunts themselves, THEM always getting top notch NHS care (remember Boris being admitted, magically finding a place for him in one of the best hospitals in the country?)
Oh, you can also blame Tories for fucking up covid policies which created a huge backlog of patients which now made them worse, making entire system be under even more pressure