What is a Wendish? My favorites are Lombard, Wendish and Sultan. Fourth place for the papal Tiara
The Bourbon Crown is my favourite! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, awesome.
1, how many of these are still in existence?
2, how many of these are still “used”?
3, how much are these worth?
Truth be told, most of them are copies of the ones used in the Roman Empire by the Emperors/Popes/Patriarchs.
and nothing about the Balkan?
I’m having trouble figuring out which “Crown of Sweden” this is referencing. It doesn’t seem to be quite like any of the famous preserved crowns. Or is it not supposed to be a specific one but an artistic impression?
the lombard crown (also called the iron crown) is the oldest of these
The turban of sultan looks the only one that would actually be comfortable to wear 🙂
A small fix: There was no specific Turban for the Ottoman Sultans. It was any big-ass Turban they had until early 19th century and then it has turned into a fez.
This is not a Polish crown, but a Russian crown made for a coronation of Anna Ivanovna in 1730, in 1829 Nicholas I used it to crown himself as king of Poland, it was the first and last time Russians organsied something like this.
The actual Polish crown, a jewel made in early 14th century, legendary from 10th century, was destroyed by Prussians in 1809, along with other Polish jeweles.
Typically, how much do these weigh? And how do you account for differences in head size? A crown could fit the first monarch perfectly, slip over the eyebrows of his tiny headed son, and keep falling off the head of his monster bonced grandson. I wouldn’t like one of those falling on my toes.
Man fuck them Habsburgs having three different crowns
It’s funny how the most famous now is the British Crown, but it’s the most boring looking one here.
But it was melted down by Prussians and now we only have a replica.
iron crown of lombardy. no one should need more crown. on the other side theres a certain fancy of “the powerful” for silly hattery.
Bit of an “um AKSHUALLY” moment, but the one labeled “English Crown” is one of 2 crowns in the Crown Jewels called St Edwards crown, only used for coronation. The Queen uses the Imperial State Crown when opening parliament because the other one is too heavy (about 2.2kg).
The Turban of Sultan was actually much bigger, though it depends which Sultanate post means.
In Ottomans for example, the concept of crown meant nothing. In that regard they were still quite Turkic, the ”seat” was very important in that culture, and I think it’s so in many Eastern civilisations, so throne was more highlighted.
Besides, Turkic Tribes, and even Anatolian Turkmen decended villagers have the term of ”Sitting on the hide” meaning someone assumed some mantle, rather than wearing a crown. Because people of position used to have councils where they sit on hides and the fanciest hide belonged to the chieftain of the tribe.
It’s quite remarkable how different cultures approach to same concepts differently. Parlaiment for Turkish is ”Meclis”, parlaiment is derived from parley, meclis however is derived from cülus, parley means to converse, talk. Cülus means to sit.
That must be the reason why Turkish parlaiments is just disagreeable elder men yelling each other and accusing each other nonstop, instead of coming to an understanding.
Edit: When Ottomans were styling themselves as Romans, and decendants of the empire, and the Sultan also used the title of Kayzer-i Rum(Caesar of Rome) , Suleiman the Magnificent had some Venetian artisan to make him a huge crown, similar to Papal Crown, because he was also claiming the title of Protector of Christians and thus, seeing himself as the true Pope of Europe.
So it shows that they were perfectly aware of how European royalty used to show supremacy. And were keen on using them when they were dealing with Europeans, if they see fit.
The crown of Frederick III. looks like something straight out of Warhammer. Must have been a pain to wear with that much material and a fucked up weight distribution.
Favs:
Lombard
Wendish
Turban
Just give me the Iron Crown, the Szent Korona and the HRE, you can take the rest.
It’s funny how barely any of these important crowns are not really “crown”-shaped.
> The cross was knocked crooked during the 17th century when the crown was damaged, possibly by the top of the iron chest housing the insignia being hastily closed without the crown having been placed in it properly. The cross has since been left in this slanted position, and is now typically depicted as such.
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What is a Wendish? My favorites are Lombard, Wendish and Sultan. Fourth place for the papal Tiara
The Bourbon Crown is my favourite! Thanks for sharing!
Wow, awesome.
1, how many of these are still in existence?
2, how many of these are still “used”?
3, how much are these worth?
Truth be told, most of them are copies of the ones used in the Roman Empire by the Emperors/Popes/Patriarchs.
and nothing about the Balkan?
I’m having trouble figuring out which “Crown of Sweden” this is referencing. It doesn’t seem to be quite like any of the famous preserved crowns. Or is it not supposed to be a specific one but an artistic impression?
the lombard crown (also called the iron crown) is the oldest of these
The turban of sultan looks the only one that would actually be comfortable to wear 🙂
A small fix: There was no specific Turban for the Ottoman Sultans. It was any big-ass Turban they had until early 19th century and then it has turned into a fez.
The three Norwegian crowns are missing:
https://www.kongehuset.no/artikkel.html?tid=81594
This is not a Polish crown, but a Russian crown made for a coronation of Anna Ivanovna in 1730, in 1829 Nicholas I used it to crown himself as king of Poland, it was the first and last time Russians organsied something like this.
The actual Polish crown, a jewel made in early 14th century, legendary from 10th century, was destroyed by Prussians in 1809, along with other Polish jeweles.
The only original Polish crowns which survived for this day are a crowns made for August III and his wife in 1733. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Augustus_III_of_Poland?wprov=sfla1
To see how original crown looked like, so called Crown of Chrobry or Corona Privilegiata, check out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Boles%C5%82aw_I_the_Brave?wprov=sfla1
Typically, how much do these weigh? And how do you account for differences in head size? A crown could fit the first monarch perfectly, slip over the eyebrows of his tiny headed son, and keep falling off the head of his monster bonced grandson. I wouldn’t like one of those falling on my toes.
Man fuck them Habsburgs having three different crowns
It’s funny how the most famous now is the British Crown, but it’s the most boring looking one here.
Monarchies are a stain on human history.
I’m gonna say I prefer this [crown list](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Str%C3%B6hl_Heraldischer_Atlas_t15_5.jpg).
Anyway, I saw this illustration pop up all over the internet, any idea where it’s from? Like where it was first published and when?
Actually this is polish crown. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Boles%C5%82aw_I_the_Brave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_of_Boles%C5%82aw_I_the_Brave)
But it was melted down by Prussians and now we only have a replica.
iron crown of lombardy. no one should need more crown. on the other side theres a certain fancy of “the powerful” for silly hattery.
Bit of an “um AKSHUALLY” moment, but the one labeled “English Crown” is one of 2 crowns in the Crown Jewels called St Edwards crown, only used for coronation. The Queen uses the Imperial State Crown when opening parliament because the other one is too heavy (about 2.2kg).
The Turban of Sultan was actually much bigger, though it depends which Sultanate post means.
In Ottomans for example, the concept of crown meant nothing. In that regard they were still quite Turkic, the ”seat” was very important in that culture, and I think it’s so in many Eastern civilisations, so throne was more highlighted.
Besides, Turkic Tribes, and even Anatolian Turkmen decended villagers have the term of ”Sitting on the hide” meaning someone assumed some mantle, rather than wearing a crown. Because people of position used to have councils where they sit on hides and the fanciest hide belonged to the chieftain of the tribe.
It’s quite remarkable how different cultures approach to same concepts differently. Parlaiment for Turkish is ”Meclis”, parlaiment is derived from parley, meclis however is derived from cülus, parley means to converse, talk. Cülus means to sit.
That must be the reason why Turkish parlaiments is just disagreeable elder men yelling each other and accusing each other nonstop, instead of coming to an understanding.
Edit: When Ottomans were styling themselves as Romans, and decendants of the empire, and the Sultan also used the title of Kayzer-i Rum(Caesar of Rome) , Suleiman the Magnificent had some Venetian artisan to make him a huge crown, similar to Papal Crown, because he was also claiming the title of Protector of Christians and thus, seeing himself as the true Pope of Europe.
[This](https://icdn.ensonhaber.com/resimler/diger/kanuni_8008.jpg) was a sketch of it, and it is known that he had this made and wore it in his famous campaign on Germany, in front of envoys from Ferdinand, brother of Charles V.
So it shows that they were perfectly aware of how European royalty used to show supremacy. And were keen on using them when they were dealing with Europeans, if they see fit.
The crown of Frederick III. looks like something straight out of Warhammer. Must have been a pain to wear with that much material and a fucked up weight distribution.
Favs:
Lombard
Wendish
Turban
Just give me the Iron Crown, the Szent Korona and the HRE, you can take the rest.
It’s funny how barely any of these important crowns are not really “crown”-shaped.
The crown of Hungary is a Byzantine crown.
for Serbian crown see under Turban of Sultan
The cross on top of the crown of Hunagry is crooked. Apparently no one is entirely sure why, but this is what [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Crown_of_Hungary#Cross) says about it (with no specific source):
> The cross was knocked crooked during the 17th century when the crown was damaged, possibly by the top of the iron chest housing the insignia being hastily closed without the crown having been placed in it properly. The cross has since been left in this slanted position, and is now typically depicted as such.
Here’s [The Steel Crown of Romania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Crown_of_Romania), forged from the steel of an ottoman cannon.
Why that Wendish crown look like something used by a mortician to prevent anal leakage tho
Dutch crown:
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Kroon_van_Nederland.jpg](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Kroon_van_Nederland.jpg)
There is no Napoleon crown. He prefered [gold laurels](https://thejewelerblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/napolean2.jpg?w=640). Well I guess that can count as a crown too. During his coronation he briefly wore [one of Charlemagne’s crown](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Crown_of_Napoleon_I.png) as a power move for Roman Catholic Pope in attendance.
I think you confused him with his nephew. That one looks like Napoleon III crown.
For the bourbon crown it looks like a budget version of [Louis XV crown](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/pVMixVfNGWsx1rnYKWjG3pS3Eb5ZvDe6mAJ1IYddRwzBRgDrnq0BlStV6yYMvSq3UVSzbV7ap0spiMjamJ4feHR_7Sc3kaXA-FZJAVa7u9Z5Ifs). Moar diamonds plz.
Freakin love the Hungarian one with all its Byzantine roots
Where is the Danish Crown?
After all Denmark is the oldest monarchy in the world.
[Crown of Scotland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honours_of_Scotland) in case you are interested.
Chad Turban vs Virgin Crown /s