I think this is a long shot. But I hope Scotland can pull free of the nightmare of Brexit and ever worsening Tory rule.
This comments section will be fun.
The current consensus is that the court will rule in favour of the UK Government.
The current president of the court is a Scottish judge. Something to point out to nasty nats when they don’t get what they want.
Scottish Independence Socially: People in Scotland will benefit from a better choice of how their country is run.
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Scottish Independence Economically: The Scottish economy wouldn’t survive and it would probably take decades for the living standards to recover.
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Jesus if Truss becomes PM could she even point to Scotland on a map?
Not gonna comment on whether it’s a good idea or not, but this has been coming since the Brexit vote and I can honestly see where they’re coming from…
A hell of a lot of people voted to stay as part of the UK because they wanted to stay in the EU (with all the various security that would provide) and that was seen again in the Brexit vote. It only seems fair to let them vote again seeing as circumstances changed so dramatically
So many indyref = Brexit lazy type comments.
An independent Scotland would gain control over areas such as foreign policy, welfare, drug laws, energy, defence.
Game changing areas of policy which the UK already had control off while in the EU.
In what way is Scotland seeking those type of powers “just like Brexit”?
I’m Scottish and I have very mixed feelings on the indyref, Nicola sturgeon loves to portray that Scotland wants independence so badly but still refuses to give us answers on what currency would be used, eu and nato memberships, trade border controls etc the snp are an absolute shambles and they will continue to get voted in by their cult if they succeed with independence, although I have no sympathy for the Tory’s in any way as they caused it, this whole independence propaganda is solely anti-Tory and not pro-Scotland, one terrible prime minister should not be the deciding factor on starting up a country with a party that spends 250 million on 3 unused ferrys.
I don’t massively agree with independence I think that the England and Scotland are better together, just like the UK and Europe are better together, I want to say that Scotland leaving would be like brexit, but you guys want to do it to get back to the EU so that argument doesn’t fly.
So at the end of the day, I don’t really have strong options one way or another, just don’t do what the UK did as a whole and vote on one issue, make the argument compelate, set out a plan, set out a time line. Don’t just vote scotxit, without BOTH sides properly costing everything and setting the full plan, we’ve seen how disastrous half baled plans are.
Can England get referendum from the Queen and tory government too:p
Hope it happens. I’d be a bit sad that it ended the way it has but Scotland and England are on different trajectories and have been for a while.
Probably the best thing for all parties.
Reading this comments section it’s clear that folk in England are painfully detached from the debates, discussions and even feelings North of the border.
Independence or not, it’s never been more clear that we are rapidly diverging societies.
It’s a bit depressing that in this comment section the only argument for Scotland remaining in the UK seems to be economic. Is this a union or just a joint bank account?
I kinda support Scotland’s right to choose, but I’d much rather they stay.
I’d rather they stay and instead of shouting about independence, they instead aimed to make the UK as a whole better.
I’d rather live in a country that has a chance to improve itself. Scotland has no chance at that in the UK, the only chance we’ve got is to get out and do it ourselves.
Good luck Scotland no matter the outcome I wish you the best.
I personally don’t want to see Scotland leave, boarders appear within our countries and the island become more fractured than it already is.
Saying that I appreciate the decision is completely their own and, if they do leave, will morn their leaving and wish them every success.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, I’d heard that the EU requires certain things for a member to join, such as a central bank etc. which to my knowledge Scotland doesn’t have? So they’d be leaving one union, and not yet eligible to join another, Scotland would be left with nothing for a number of years? Someone who knows more about this please correct me
Genuine question.
Why is brexit seen as a bad thing, but Scottish independence as a good thing?
Well this discussion has gone about as well as anything else that mentions ‘indyref2’. Big surprise there!
I’m 2014 I would have voted for devo max, if Cameron’s government hadn’t vetoed its inclusion on the ballot paper. Instead I voted Yes and will do the same again. The union is broken.
I have a question for unionists: if Scotland is too wee, stupid and poor to survive alone and a drain on the UK’s finances, why is Westminster fighting so hard to keep us in the union?
Good luck to them. The Conservatives have broken up the United Kingdom piece by piece with a cocktail of neglect, arrogance and incompetence.
Everything that’s happened and people on reddit still have the gall to claim Scotland needs to remain tied to the British cinderblock …
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I think this is a long shot. But I hope Scotland can pull free of the nightmare of Brexit and ever worsening Tory rule.
This comments section will be fun.
The current consensus is that the court will rule in favour of the UK Government.
The current president of the court is a Scottish judge. Something to point out to nasty nats when they don’t get what they want.
Scottish Independence Socially: People in Scotland will benefit from a better choice of how their country is run.
​
Scottish Independence Economically: The Scottish economy wouldn’t survive and it would probably take decades for the living standards to recover.
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Jesus if Truss becomes PM could she even point to Scotland on a map?
Not gonna comment on whether it’s a good idea or not, but this has been coming since the Brexit vote and I can honestly see where they’re coming from…
A hell of a lot of people voted to stay as part of the UK because they wanted to stay in the EU (with all the various security that would provide) and that was seen again in the Brexit vote. It only seems fair to let them vote again seeing as circumstances changed so dramatically
So many indyref = Brexit lazy type comments.
An independent Scotland would gain control over areas such as foreign policy, welfare, drug laws, energy, defence.
Game changing areas of policy which the UK already had control off while in the EU.
In what way is Scotland seeking those type of powers “just like Brexit”?
I’m Scottish and I have very mixed feelings on the indyref, Nicola sturgeon loves to portray that Scotland wants independence so badly but still refuses to give us answers on what currency would be used, eu and nato memberships, trade border controls etc the snp are an absolute shambles and they will continue to get voted in by their cult if they succeed with independence, although I have no sympathy for the Tory’s in any way as they caused it, this whole independence propaganda is solely anti-Tory and not pro-Scotland, one terrible prime minister should not be the deciding factor on starting up a country with a party that spends 250 million on 3 unused ferrys.
I don’t massively agree with independence I think that the England and Scotland are better together, just like the UK and Europe are better together, I want to say that Scotland leaving would be like brexit, but you guys want to do it to get back to the EU so that argument doesn’t fly.
So at the end of the day, I don’t really have strong options one way or another, just don’t do what the UK did as a whole and vote on one issue, make the argument compelate, set out a plan, set out a time line. Don’t just vote scotxit, without BOTH sides properly costing everything and setting the full plan, we’ve seen how disastrous half baled plans are.
Can England get referendum from the Queen and tory government too:p
Hope it happens. I’d be a bit sad that it ended the way it has but Scotland and England are on different trajectories and have been for a while.
Probably the best thing for all parties.
Reading this comments section it’s clear that folk in England are painfully detached from the debates, discussions and even feelings North of the border.
Independence or not, it’s never been more clear that we are rapidly diverging societies.
It’s a bit depressing that in this comment section the only argument for Scotland remaining in the UK seems to be economic. Is this a union or just a joint bank account?
I kinda support Scotland’s right to choose, but I’d much rather they stay.
I’d rather they stay and instead of shouting about independence, they instead aimed to make the UK as a whole better.
I’d rather live in a country that has a chance to improve itself. Scotland has no chance at that in the UK, the only chance we’ve got is to get out and do it ourselves.
Good luck Scotland no matter the outcome I wish you the best.
I personally don’t want to see Scotland leave, boarders appear within our countries and the island become more fractured than it already is.
Saying that I appreciate the decision is completely their own and, if they do leave, will morn their leaving and wish them every success.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, I’d heard that the EU requires certain things for a member to join, such as a central bank etc. which to my knowledge Scotland doesn’t have? So they’d be leaving one union, and not yet eligible to join another, Scotland would be left with nothing for a number of years? Someone who knows more about this please correct me
Genuine question.
Why is brexit seen as a bad thing, but Scottish independence as a good thing?
Well this discussion has gone about as well as anything else that mentions ‘indyref2’. Big surprise there!
I’m 2014 I would have voted for devo max, if Cameron’s government hadn’t vetoed its inclusion on the ballot paper. Instead I voted Yes and will do the same again. The union is broken.
I have a question for unionists: if Scotland is too wee, stupid and poor to survive alone and a drain on the UK’s finances, why is Westminster fighting so hard to keep us in the union?
Good luck to them. The Conservatives have broken up the United Kingdom piece by piece with a cocktail of neglect, arrogance and incompetence.
Everything that’s happened and people on reddit still have the gall to claim Scotland needs to remain tied to the British cinderblock …