You know hemp reduces the methane emissions from cows.
Am sure the people making the decisions on this don’t care to hear that mind.
Also a better source of paper, also fabrics. 😉
These nutjobs are intent on destroying us . They will also blame the Kremlin as the re energised right slowly spreads across europe to get rid of them.
We cant eat or export bullshit.
Didn’t see anyone complaining about the needless emissions being spewed by massive aircrafts yesterday, all for entertainment purposes.
We’re in thr middle of a climate change induced heatwave that’s killing untold thousands and people are *still* resisting any attempt to cut emissions. How the fuck did we get this far as a species?
200 years later this country is going to witness another famine
But this time it was self induced because men in suits would rather the underpaid workers take the hit over their easy access to global travel
Needs to happen – prices of foods that have a bigger impact on climate need to go up and people need to switch to less impactful foods. If we don’t make these changes the cows are just gonna be dead from heat waves anyways and then we will be in a far worse situation.
There should just be government scheme to buy out farms.
Farms in this country as basically an subsidised employment scheme.
Every last square mm of the country is farmland and we just don’t need it. It really serves little purpose except making a very small number of people very rich and keep a whole lot of people employed in loss-making businesses (one which most were pressured into, takes all their time, and they only just about make a living from). All while screwing-over our environment – both local and global.
Im really curious how this would be implemented / measured?
The article is paywalled – does it suggest any measures or is there anywhere which this has been discuessed?
I’m not against these moves as long as there’s a plan on how to do it. They can’t just throw a number at farmers and walk away. The government need to be giving farmers a path to change, making it easy to follow that path, and then help them walk that path. There’s a lot we could be doing in the food industry but it’s not just going to happen through private investment.
So often the government just throw a hand grenade into an industry and see who survives the mayhem. That can’t be done with food, we need the food, it’s not just an industry at the end of the day.
Bought onions today; hmmm, Spain or New Zealand origin? Lesser of two evils then. Incredible how it can be possible to airfreight onions from the other side of the planet and still sell them at a profit.
Is there any other industry besides agriculture in Ireland that comes in for as much daily hate on r/ireland?
Just to pretext this by saying I gave my local green TD my first preference in the last general election but what supports are there long term for culling the national herd?
Surely we should have viable alternatives available to farmers if we’re asking them to do this? I don’t think this was a conversation when most farmers started out so it seems kind of unfair to be demonising them now without putting in place an alternative that would sustain their livelihoods
We can all continously do our bit by reducing our dairy and red meat intake or cut it out altogether
Have to be a troll or bait because there ain’t no way you’re 1) this dense or 2) this weird, wtf did you take before writing your comments??
We don’t have a choice. People protesting should be protesting that the can was kicked so far down the road that we have to take such radical action now to save ourselves.
This is all well and good but they need somewhere from a 5-10 year transitional period, not thrown in the deep end. Look at Sri Lanka their crop yield fell by over 80% which greatly contributed to their collapse . And when they inevitably fail , farmers will have no choice but to sell up their land to the government who in turn will hand it over to digital farming companies owned by Blackrock and Vanguard. What we see happening with family homes now will be happening with farm land next. The other option being banded around is factory generated products which is patented by the likes of Beyond Meat. Surrendering our food security to corporations is absolute madness and this is the path we are heading down. Expect similar protests to what is currently going on in the Netherlands soon.
Good, as an economic sector that employes a tiny percentage of the workforce farmers are disproportionatly represented and subsidized in this country, ive no sympathy for any of em. Whinging about every fkn thing.
I hope they do the same thing like in the Netherlands and go burn down the government.
Well start with the sheep farmers. They’re the most inefficient. Especially the hill sheep farmers. Give them a nice grant and Buy the land. Tens of thousands of acres of it. And plant it with millions of native trees (if trees are naturally supposed to be thereof course) .
Realistically though I think the demand will still be there. Imports from Latin America and the likes will fill the gap. So we’re just outsourcing our CO2 emissions. Kinda like we did when the uk/Europe/US deindustrialised and exported all our heavy industry (and its associated CO2 emissions) to the third world.
Farmers swear they are they gears that keep the economy turning. In reality all they do is scar the land and polute the planet just so they can slaughter animals. The land should be taken back from them and they should be forced to get actuall jobs like the rest of society, and stop living like fucking cavemen.
I’m not a vegetarian or vegan but I can’t remember when the last time I eat beef or lamb.
Id love to see Ireland returned to its natural beauty and not just bare fucking fields.
I’m willing to bet ecotourism would bring more into our economy than farming would.
Yes yes let’s implement tough climate based sanctions on our farmers. Then when it gets too expensive we can import all our food.
Let’s also blame them for everything while driving cars which run on fossil fuels, travel on fossil fuel run planes for summer holidays, generate our electricity from a turf fired plant, heat our city homes with gas and import most of our products from china based factories where carbon is just an afterthought.
I’m not saying we should do nothing. But blaming farmers who produce our food while not addressing any of the other ways we produce carbon in our day to day lives is foolish.
I’d rather drive an electric car and pay more for renewable based power than eat plant or insect based meat and dairy replacements.
I hope this all gets rejected and knocked down.
This will only get them back to where they were 10yrs ago. It’s a disgrace the pollution coming off agriculture. 5% of GDP, 6% of the workforce and 37.5% of Irelands total emissions. And for what you make Larry Goodman even richer or the shareholders of Glanbia.
And all this is before we even consider that half the rivers and lakes in the entire country are polluted from agriculture. They have to get their shit together, same as everyone else.
There’s always a decent size minority of the comments on posts about agriculture on this sub that are among the most idiotic you’ll see anywhere on Reddit, it’s incredible
Jesus, i’m starving! I could eat an entire cow.
Should be more.
Cattle farming is an ethical and environmental disaster.
And it’s either done by inefficient small farms or even worse and growing in number and size large farms.
The Irish agriculture industry is, at present, a shamefully grotesque greenhouse gas polluter. Throughout my life all I’ve heard are empty words from their dedicated cabinet minister and the various IFA and ICSA chairpersons about going green. They’re not going green, they’re getting worse.
I fundamentally believe that Irish farming can grow in a carbon neutral way. They just need to stop digging their heels in to necessary change. Every industry has climate targets!
Reduce tax on clean foods. The government’s answer is almost always to tax the problem.
Make vegetarian options tax free, it’s healthier and better for the environment. Provide more allotments, incentivise home composting, tax private jets, ban 1st class, ban passenger cars over 1.8L, provide city bikes for free, allow home owners to sell back to the grid, remove the cronyism from the BER grant…. So many things to do. It’s clear majority of our government don’t really care.
I don’t agree with all of my own suggestions, but if you were serious about CO2, you’d do more than uncreative punitive taxes. Almost all CO2 taxes hit the working class disproportionately to the upper classes.
Let’s handicap our agriculture sector, what could possibly go wrong?
When will we accept that the Irish Government hates Ireland as an agricultural country and wants it to be nothing but Tech HQs and Server farms.
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You know hemp reduces the methane emissions from cows.
Am sure the people making the decisions on this don’t care to hear that mind.
Also a better source of paper, also fabrics. 😉
These nutjobs are intent on destroying us . They will also blame the Kremlin as the re energised right slowly spreads across europe to get rid of them.
We cant eat or export bullshit.
Didn’t see anyone complaining about the needless emissions being spewed by massive aircrafts yesterday, all for entertainment purposes.
We’re in thr middle of a climate change induced heatwave that’s killing untold thousands and people are *still* resisting any attempt to cut emissions. How the fuck did we get this far as a species?
200 years later this country is going to witness another famine
But this time it was self induced because men in suits would rather the underpaid workers take the hit over their easy access to global travel
Needs to happen – prices of foods that have a bigger impact on climate need to go up and people need to switch to less impactful foods. If we don’t make these changes the cows are just gonna be dead from heat waves anyways and then we will be in a far worse situation.
There should just be government scheme to buy out farms.
Farms in this country as basically an subsidised employment scheme.
Every last square mm of the country is farmland and we just don’t need it. It really serves little purpose except making a very small number of people very rich and keep a whole lot of people employed in loss-making businesses (one which most were pressured into, takes all their time, and they only just about make a living from). All while screwing-over our environment – both local and global.
Im really curious how this would be implemented / measured?
The article is paywalled – does it suggest any measures or is there anywhere which this has been discuessed?
I’m not against these moves as long as there’s a plan on how to do it. They can’t just throw a number at farmers and walk away. The government need to be giving farmers a path to change, making it easy to follow that path, and then help them walk that path. There’s a lot we could be doing in the food industry but it’s not just going to happen through private investment.
So often the government just throw a hand grenade into an industry and see who survives the mayhem. That can’t be done with food, we need the food, it’s not just an industry at the end of the day.
Bought onions today; hmmm, Spain or New Zealand origin? Lesser of two evils then. Incredible how it can be possible to airfreight onions from the other side of the planet and still sell them at a profit.
Is there any other industry besides agriculture in Ireland that comes in for as much daily hate on r/ireland?
Just to pretext this by saying I gave my local green TD my first preference in the last general election but what supports are there long term for culling the national herd?
Surely we should have viable alternatives available to farmers if we’re asking them to do this? I don’t think this was a conversation when most farmers started out so it seems kind of unfair to be demonising them now without putting in place an alternative that would sustain their livelihoods
We can all continously do our bit by reducing our dairy and red meat intake or cut it out altogether
Have to be a troll or bait because there ain’t no way you’re 1) this dense or 2) this weird, wtf did you take before writing your comments??
We don’t have a choice. People protesting should be protesting that the can was kicked so far down the road that we have to take such radical action now to save ourselves.
This is all well and good but they need somewhere from a 5-10 year transitional period, not thrown in the deep end. Look at Sri Lanka their crop yield fell by over 80% which greatly contributed to their collapse . And when they inevitably fail , farmers will have no choice but to sell up their land to the government who in turn will hand it over to digital farming companies owned by Blackrock and Vanguard. What we see happening with family homes now will be happening with farm land next. The other option being banded around is factory generated products which is patented by the likes of Beyond Meat. Surrendering our food security to corporations is absolute madness and this is the path we are heading down. Expect similar protests to what is currently going on in the Netherlands soon.
Good, as an economic sector that employes a tiny percentage of the workforce farmers are disproportionatly represented and subsidized in this country, ive no sympathy for any of em. Whinging about every fkn thing.
I hope they do the same thing like in the Netherlands and go burn down the government.
Well start with the sheep farmers. They’re the most inefficient. Especially the hill sheep farmers. Give them a nice grant and Buy the land. Tens of thousands of acres of it. And plant it with millions of native trees (if trees are naturally supposed to be thereof course) .
Realistically though I think the demand will still be there. Imports from Latin America and the likes will fill the gap. So we’re just outsourcing our CO2 emissions. Kinda like we did when the uk/Europe/US deindustrialised and exported all our heavy industry (and its associated CO2 emissions) to the third world.
Farmers swear they are they gears that keep the economy turning. In reality all they do is scar the land and polute the planet just so they can slaughter animals. The land should be taken back from them and they should be forced to get actuall jobs like the rest of society, and stop living like fucking cavemen.
I’m not a vegetarian or vegan but I can’t remember when the last time I eat beef or lamb.
Id love to see Ireland returned to its natural beauty and not just bare fucking fields.
I’m willing to bet ecotourism would bring more into our economy than farming would.
Yes yes let’s implement tough climate based sanctions on our farmers. Then when it gets too expensive we can import all our food.
Let’s also blame them for everything while driving cars which run on fossil fuels, travel on fossil fuel run planes for summer holidays, generate our electricity from a turf fired plant, heat our city homes with gas and import most of our products from china based factories where carbon is just an afterthought.
I’m not saying we should do nothing. But blaming farmers who produce our food while not addressing any of the other ways we produce carbon in our day to day lives is foolish.
I’d rather drive an electric car and pay more for renewable based power than eat plant or insect based meat and dairy replacements.
I hope this all gets rejected and knocked down.
This will only get them back to where they were 10yrs ago. It’s a disgrace the pollution coming off agriculture. 5% of GDP, 6% of the workforce and 37.5% of Irelands total emissions. And for what you make Larry Goodman even richer or the shareholders of Glanbia.
And all this is before we even consider that half the rivers and lakes in the entire country are polluted from agriculture. They have to get their shit together, same as everyone else.
There’s always a decent size minority of the comments on posts about agriculture on this sub that are among the most idiotic you’ll see anywhere on Reddit, it’s incredible
Jesus, i’m starving! I could eat an entire cow.
Should be more.
Cattle farming is an ethical and environmental disaster.
And it’s either done by inefficient small farms or even worse and growing in number and size large farms.
The Irish agriculture industry is, at present, a shamefully grotesque greenhouse gas polluter. Throughout my life all I’ve heard are empty words from their dedicated cabinet minister and the various IFA and ICSA chairpersons about going green. They’re not going green, they’re getting worse.
I fundamentally believe that Irish farming can grow in a carbon neutral way. They just need to stop digging their heels in to necessary change. Every industry has climate targets!
Reduce tax on clean foods. The government’s answer is almost always to tax the problem.
Make vegetarian options tax free, it’s healthier and better for the environment. Provide more allotments, incentivise home composting, tax private jets, ban 1st class, ban passenger cars over 1.8L, provide city bikes for free, allow home owners to sell back to the grid, remove the cronyism from the BER grant…. So many things to do. It’s clear majority of our government don’t really care.
I don’t agree with all of my own suggestions, but if you were serious about CO2, you’d do more than uncreative punitive taxes. Almost all CO2 taxes hit the working class disproportionately to the upper classes.
Let’s handicap our agriculture sector, what could possibly go wrong?
When will we accept that the Irish Government hates Ireland as an agricultural country and wants it to be nothing but Tech HQs and Server farms.