Taxing the childless? A demographer’s response to unjust criticism

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  1. My issue with this concept has nothing to do with comparative taxation. It is the fundamental mindset that views people as nothing more than resources to be consumed by an economy.

    There’s no ‘let’s make the world a better place and somewhere people will naturally want to raise families’. It’s all about the economic supply chain. ‘We have a shortage so we need women to pump out more of those raw materials’. That why the article includes the concept of punitive measures for people who don’t have kids. That mindset views people as ‘natural resources’ of the state and if you don’t contribute then you deserve to be punished.

    It is an appalling but regrettably common view.

  2. Boomers ransack and hyper-fuck the economy for decades, burn all the ladders they climbed up, so their offspring can’t afford children.

    The solution: Harvest their offspring yet again, this time for not having children.

  3. Tax the rich. Tax the elderly who under paid their taxes for decades. Tax mega businesses. Tax churches. Close tax loopholes.

    These are the viable options. Taxing the young or childless is a cunt move.

  4. It’s analogous to volunteering: do you chose those first to step forward, or those last to step back?

    Do you give child benefit, or increase tax for the childless?

    **Or do both**!
    Or neither…

  5. Yeah let’s tax younger people. Getting far too much from the system as it is.

    Ah right, educated at Oxford. A breeding ground for arseholes.

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  7. What a douche this guy. Sums up labour shortages as being entirely down to a dropping birth rate, while completely failing to mention all the European migrants we sent home and slammed the door on.

  8. I feel like I keep mentioning Stephen Baxter’s Deep Future on reddit but it is an interesting book. I read it when I was quite young in the early 00s. I was a lot more interested in the sci-fi stuff about living around black holes and the heat death of the universe. I didn’t pay much attention to his description of the mid to late 21st century with western democracies shuffling their way into authoritarian gerontocracies where the young are legally enslaved by the state to care for the infirm elderly and forced breeding programs start to emerge to ensure a supply of workers into the future.

  9. ‘Unjust criticism’ Really!

    You only have to look at the state of the world, and the continued rise in world population to realise his ideas are mental. The world population is at crisis levels because the planet can no longer sustain the level of human growth. We should be offering tax cuts to people who don’t have children, not the other way round.

    It only take a few minutes of watching the below to realise his ideas are madness…

    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

  10. To be honest I feel like the points raised do make some sense, but come from a perspective of thinking people are a resource which is in all fairness seen as pretty abhorrent.

    However when thinking about the economy this is how numbers are thought of, and the simple idea that perhaps not having to rely on people immigrating just so your country functions is a good one. But it doesn’t really address why people don’t want to have children, and basically saying contribute workers to the economy of pay up is a bit on the nose for even the most staunch capitalists I reckon.

    People aren’t wanting to have children because housing is very expensive, childcare is very expensive and pay is too low. Both parents often need to work to get by, and often are better off having one parent (often a mother) needing to take a break from her career until the children are 3, than paying for childcare.

    Sort out landlord profit and ceo-worker pay ratios, raise min. wage to a living wage and tax those who make the most in society, and tackle offshore tax avoidance for the mega rich. That will have an effect.

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