It seems like the Labour Party, alongside every other element of the media, jointly conspired to never let Jeremy Corbyn win. All because he wanted to created a more equal society. What a shame!
Regardless of what you may think of Corbyn and his policies. It’s clear he didn’t get a fair shot. Constantly sabotaged by his own party and media.
What on earth is that all about. I’m absolutely disgusted, this was a man chosen by labour party members to lead and instead they preferred Boris and co?
I know Corbyn has faults, he ain’t perfect but anyone who did this shit needs kicking from the party.
> The inquiry also found “undoubted overt and underlying racism and sexism apparent in some of the content of the WhatsApp messages between the party’s most senior staff” as well as a wider culture of discrimination.
But wait I thought the left were the bigoted ones
> One election night chat log showed that upon seeing exit polls showing Labour had overturned the Tory majority, one senior official said the result was the “opposite to what I had been working towards for the last couple of years”, describing themselves and their allies as “silent and grey-faced” and in need of counselling.
It’s all about beating the Tories at all costs though yeah? DoN’t LeT PeRfEcT bE tHe EnEmY of GoOd
Why does the report say there wasn’t evidence of intentional sabotage and just misconduct but also says the SMT WhatsApp group was focused on protecting the party from Jeremy Corbyn.
Even with a report as shocking as this we’re still seeing a level of downplaying. How bad must it actually be?
Also not a great look to have weaponisation of antisemitism complaints be confirmed the same week that people who did it used the holocaust memorial in Berlin as a campaign backdrop then accused others of weaponising antisemitism when called out.
At this point there isn’t any major political part in this country that isn’t obviously compromised against the working people
It says what they did wasn’t illegal, but that was money (£135,000 according to the report) from trade unions and members and was secretly diverted away from where they were needed by unelected officials. Do those members have no legal recourse to what was done with their money? The fact that it was done covertly, so the leadership didn’t know, indicates that they knew what they were doing was wrong.
He was clearly stabbed in the back, the front, and both sides.
nice democracy we got here buddies
Can’t believe that this bunch did all that of their own volition, without guidance or encouragement from other interested entities.
Wonder exactly how this will be spun
Say what you will about the Tories, but at least they’re united in a common goal. Imagine sabotaging your own party.
The problem really is that without a period of left-leaning government the UK economy cannot survive.
This is different from the USA which can just continue forever.
Labour Party doing what they do best, defeating the Labour Party in elections.
Kick everyone of them out. I’m no Corbyn supporter but he would have been miles better than any Tory.
Of course they diverted funds away from campaigning. Corbyn had to fail at any cost.
Starmer should resign
I don’t know what to do anymore. I despise the Tories with every fiber of my being, but this is the alternative? A cabal of backstabbing Tories-In-Disguise? This has revealed we live in an illusion of democracy, though that’s been obvious for decades. I either waste my vote or vote for lying cowards, who stabbed the only decent man in politics in the back
Why isn’t this on the news this hinders our democracy! Should be more of a fuss cmon people let’s have a bit more retweets!
Ok this is one of the occasions where we can actually call labour out for bad decisions.
All these angry responses and yet not one person has linked the actual report:
As the BBC was so complicit in this, I’m not surprised to see how they labeled it:
**Both Labour sides blamed in anti-Semitism report**
I think you’ll find that was a fabrication – and that there shouldn’t be a ‘side’ unless it’s a coup.
Labour is a scam.
Keir Starmer needs to go
Best prime minister we never had
As a reluctant convert to SNP what i don’t understand is why the labour right don’t join conservative?.
Keir starmer’s policy’s just seem to be slightly diluted conservative policy’s, so I feel that seems a lot easier to negotiate than the chasm between labour left and right.
I know this can be a bit of a touchy subject but please educate me if you have a different opinion thanks.
I thought the left were unelectable because of policies, not sabotage and smear?
Only suckers are surprised.
Ahhh democracy.
Corbyn could have slammed Boris if the labour party fully got behind him.
You’re average brit on the street loved his policies and made the Tories parties offering looks like pint of cold sick by comparison.
They could only beat him by making it about personality rather than policy. Low and behold, years later and the rail, post, NHS stikes, foodbanks and fossil fuel dependancy could have all been allieviated had labour won.
The only thing I’m sad to say i’m iffy on is Ukraine. I think Corbyn would have not sent military aid and watching him preach about imperialism would have been agonising. Then again he would have taxed the shit out of Russian Oligarchs so I suppose it would have been the opposite approach.
So uhhh, revolution anyone?
Do you need anymore reason not to vote for these turncoats?
All this just to stop him from bringing back British Rail.
So can we also blame those bastards for us ending up with blowjob johnson.
I wonder if those arseholes feel any shame for the state of the country we have because of their pettiness/jealousy
And here’s a selection of criticisms of Corbyn’s faction from the same report:
“a professed commitment to combating discrimination…. however many of the individuals laying claims to those worthy ambitions had a very strong, unbending, view of what the Party should represent, who it should represent, and how it should fight elections effectively. It was concerning to me that many failed to examine their own actions which were demonstrably unlikely to achieve those aims”
“The evidence clearly demonstrated that a vociferous faction in the Party sees any issues regarding antisemitism as exaggerated by the Right to embarrass the Left. The authors of the Leaked Report were supportive of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, enthusiastic and fully committed.”
“We have also seen evidence of denialism about antisemitism amongst some on the Left, who asserted that the issue was being exaggerated to undermine the leader”
“To be clear, we have seen no evidence that claims of antisemitism were fabricated by complainants or improperly pursued by the complaints team.”
“debilitating inertia, factionalism and infighting which then distracted from what all profess to be a common cause – electoral success.”
It’s ironic that a report into toxic factionalism has resulted in more factionalism.
I hope Labour embraces PR at the next election so the two parties within the party can go their own way without leaving us with Tory government in perpetuity.
Fire the bastards! How many are still drawing a Labour Party funded salary?
And thus the process of the right-wing capture of the labour movement which Tony Blair began is complete.
Time for a new workers’ party I think.
And the same people have the sheer cunting gall to bleat on about how we should all be uniting around Starmer.
Maybe if you gutless wonders had united around Corbyn rather than doing everything in your power to hinder and smear him, we wouldn’t be in the state that we’re in now.
… and Corbyn supporters are ‘Tory enablers’ eh?
But now it’s time to unite behind the leader?
Fuck off Labour. You’re just as rotten as the rest of Westminster.
I’m so glad that I live in Scotland and have the opportunity to vote for a major party that isn’t a complete joke.
Whether they did or didn’t a key part of being a leader is pulling people together and getting them to work together towards a common goal. Corbyn just couldn’t manage it, he couldn’t even manage it in his own party, what chance did he have in managing that with the country. Zero. His policies were rubbish and frankly crazy, nationalising Internet Service providers was the final nail in the coffin of his political ambitions for me.
The leader of the country can’t check on everything, leading is about getting everyone on board and pulling towards a common goal. A tag line of “For the many, not the few” is decisive. It alienates part of the voter base, the voter base which actually pays for everything anyway, good luck with that. Anyway, the proof was it failed terribly at the polls, one of their worst defeats in their history.
So what did we get, we got Johnson because even though he was a buffoon, he was still better than Corbyn.
Also everyone talking about government working against Corbyn, isn’t that just the same as Borris saying the deepstate was working against him?
And everyone gaslighted his supporters calling them sore losers or worse. The fact of the matter is, he was about to reset the horrid system we find ourselves in and the powers that be, and particuarly the neoliberals in Labour. Preferred destroying his chances and leaving us at the mercy of Johnson for the power and wealth it brings them, rather than fight for the egalitarianism and social justice the party always tried to embody in the confines of Liberal democratic politics.
I just hope the centrists remember this the next time they scream about letting the “Tories win” as an argument to opposition. They already have won. The system that Thatcher bought in is now propped up by Labour with some Punch and Judy performance for parliament to uphold the illusion of democracy.
Anyone still supporting this shit show. Tory or Labour should be ashamed.
I think some people who are decrying Starmer and that he needs to be booted out fail to realise *he commissioned the report*. That doesn’t strike me as the action of someone trying to cover up a labour conspiracy.
Without repeating what others have said, I’d be curious as to know which seats had their funds diverted from and whether there was a realistic prospect of Labour winning the seat. I know of a handful of seats which I think would be unlikely to vote for Labour under Corbyn because of some of Corbyn’s views rather than a conspiracy. The one that comes to mind for me is the Copeland constituency which by and large voted against Corbyn’s nuclear agenda for which the last labour MP stepped down partially due to it, triggering a by-election in which Labour lost the seat for the first time (one of the many ‘redwall’ seats). I imagine it might return back to Labour at the next election with Corbyn out of the picture and Starmer in general consensus with the current gov’s nuclear policy (civil and defense).
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It seems like the Labour Party, alongside every other element of the media, jointly conspired to never let Jeremy Corbyn win. All because he wanted to created a more equal society. What a shame!
Regardless of what you may think of Corbyn and his policies. It’s clear he didn’t get a fair shot. Constantly sabotaged by his own party and media.
What on earth is that all about. I’m absolutely disgusted, this was a man chosen by labour party members to lead and instead they preferred Boris and co?
I know Corbyn has faults, he ain’t perfect but anyone who did this shit needs kicking from the party.
> The inquiry also found “undoubted overt and underlying racism and sexism apparent in some of the content of the WhatsApp messages between the party’s most senior staff” as well as a wider culture of discrimination.
But wait I thought the left were the bigoted ones
> One election night chat log showed that upon seeing exit polls showing Labour had overturned the Tory majority, one senior official said the result was the “opposite to what I had been working towards for the last couple of years”, describing themselves and their allies as “silent and grey-faced” and in need of counselling.
It’s all about beating the Tories at all costs though yeah? DoN’t LeT PeRfEcT bE tHe EnEmY of GoOd
Why does the report say there wasn’t evidence of intentional sabotage and just misconduct but also says the SMT WhatsApp group was focused on protecting the party from Jeremy Corbyn.
Even with a report as shocking as this we’re still seeing a level of downplaying. How bad must it actually be?
Also not a great look to have weaponisation of antisemitism complaints be confirmed the same week that people who did it used the holocaust memorial in Berlin as a campaign backdrop then accused others of weaponising antisemitism when called out.
At this point there isn’t any major political part in this country that isn’t obviously compromised against the working people
It says what they did wasn’t illegal, but that was money (£135,000 according to the report) from trade unions and members and was secretly diverted away from where they were needed by unelected officials. Do those members have no legal recourse to what was done with their money? The fact that it was done covertly, so the leadership didn’t know, indicates that they knew what they were doing was wrong.
He was clearly stabbed in the back, the front, and both sides.
nice democracy we got here buddies
Can’t believe that this bunch did all that of their own volition, without guidance or encouragement from other interested entities.
Wonder exactly how this will be spun
Say what you will about the Tories, but at least they’re united in a common goal. Imagine sabotaging your own party.
The problem really is that without a period of left-leaning government the UK economy cannot survive.
This is different from the USA which can just continue forever.
Labour Party doing what they do best, defeating the Labour Party in elections.
Kick everyone of them out. I’m no Corbyn supporter but he would have been miles better than any Tory.
Of course they diverted funds away from campaigning. Corbyn had to fail at any cost.
Starmer should resign
I don’t know what to do anymore. I despise the Tories with every fiber of my being, but this is the alternative? A cabal of backstabbing Tories-In-Disguise? This has revealed we live in an illusion of democracy, though that’s been obvious for decades. I either waste my vote or vote for lying cowards, who stabbed the only decent man in politics in the back
Why isn’t this on the news this hinders our democracy! Should be more of a fuss cmon people let’s have a bit more retweets!
Ok this is one of the occasions where we can actually call labour out for bad decisions.
All these angry responses and yet not one person has linked the actual report:
[PDF download link](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjwreeiooX5AhUtSkEAHS3xASIQFnoECCIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fordeinquiry.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F07%2FThe-Forde-Report.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vgYmkm0w0-xufDxAkcMnf)
As the BBC was so complicit in this, I’m not surprised to see how they labeled it:
**Both Labour sides blamed in anti-Semitism report**
I think you’ll find that was a fabrication – and that there shouldn’t be a ‘side’ unless it’s a coup.
Labour is a scam.
Keir Starmer needs to go
Best prime minister we never had
As a reluctant convert to SNP what i don’t understand is why the labour right don’t join conservative?.
Keir starmer’s policy’s just seem to be slightly diluted conservative policy’s, so I feel that seems a lot easier to negotiate than the chasm between labour left and right.
I know this can be a bit of a touchy subject but please educate me if you have a different opinion thanks.
I thought the left were unelectable because of policies, not sabotage and smear?
Only suckers are surprised.
Ahhh democracy.
Corbyn could have slammed Boris if the labour party fully got behind him.
You’re average brit on the street loved his policies and made the Tories parties offering looks like pint of cold sick by comparison.
They could only beat him by making it about personality rather than policy. Low and behold, years later and the rail, post, NHS stikes, foodbanks and fossil fuel dependancy could have all been allieviated had labour won.
The only thing I’m sad to say i’m iffy on is Ukraine. I think Corbyn would have not sent military aid and watching him preach about imperialism would have been agonising. Then again he would have taxed the shit out of Russian Oligarchs so I suppose it would have been the opposite approach.
So uhhh, revolution anyone?
Do you need anymore reason not to vote for these turncoats?
All this just to stop him from bringing back British Rail.
So can we also blame those bastards for us ending up with blowjob johnson.
I wonder if those arseholes feel any shame for the state of the country we have because of their pettiness/jealousy
And here’s a selection of criticisms of Corbyn’s faction from the same report:
“a professed commitment to combating discrimination…. however many of the individuals laying claims to those worthy ambitions had a very strong, unbending, view of what the Party should represent, who it should represent, and how it should fight elections effectively. It was concerning to me that many failed to examine their own actions which were demonstrably unlikely to achieve those aims”
“The evidence clearly demonstrated that a vociferous faction in the Party sees any issues regarding antisemitism as exaggerated by the Right to embarrass the Left. The authors of the Leaked Report were supportive of Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, enthusiastic and fully committed.”
“We have also seen evidence of denialism about antisemitism amongst some on the Left, who asserted that the issue was being exaggerated to undermine the leader”
“To be clear, we have seen no evidence that claims of antisemitism were fabricated by complainants or improperly pursued by the complaints team.”
“debilitating inertia, factionalism and infighting which then distracted from what all profess to be a common cause – electoral success.”
It’s ironic that a report into toxic factionalism has resulted in more factionalism.
I hope Labour embraces PR at the next election so the two parties within the party can go their own way without leaving us with Tory government in perpetuity.
Fire the bastards! How many are still drawing a Labour Party funded salary?
And thus the process of the right-wing capture of the labour movement which Tony Blair began is complete.
Time for a new workers’ party I think.
And the same people have the sheer cunting gall to bleat on about how we should all be uniting around Starmer.
Maybe if you gutless wonders had united around Corbyn rather than doing everything in your power to hinder and smear him, we wouldn’t be in the state that we’re in now.
… and Corbyn supporters are ‘Tory enablers’ eh?
But now it’s time to unite behind the leader?
Fuck off Labour. You’re just as rotten as the rest of Westminster.
I’m so glad that I live in Scotland and have the opportunity to vote for a major party that isn’t a complete joke.
Whether they did or didn’t a key part of being a leader is pulling people together and getting them to work together towards a common goal. Corbyn just couldn’t manage it, he couldn’t even manage it in his own party, what chance did he have in managing that with the country. Zero. His policies were rubbish and frankly crazy, nationalising Internet Service providers was the final nail in the coffin of his political ambitions for me.
The leader of the country can’t check on everything, leading is about getting everyone on board and pulling towards a common goal. A tag line of “For the many, not the few” is decisive. It alienates part of the voter base, the voter base which actually pays for everything anyway, good luck with that. Anyway, the proof was it failed terribly at the polls, one of their worst defeats in their history.
So what did we get, we got Johnson because even though he was a buffoon, he was still better than Corbyn.
Also everyone talking about government working against Corbyn, isn’t that just the same as Borris saying the deepstate was working against him?
And everyone gaslighted his supporters calling them sore losers or worse. The fact of the matter is, he was about to reset the horrid system we find ourselves in and the powers that be, and particuarly the neoliberals in Labour. Preferred destroying his chances and leaving us at the mercy of Johnson for the power and wealth it brings them, rather than fight for the egalitarianism and social justice the party always tried to embody in the confines of Liberal democratic politics.
I just hope the centrists remember this the next time they scream about letting the “Tories win” as an argument to opposition. They already have won. The system that Thatcher bought in is now propped up by Labour with some Punch and Judy performance for parliament to uphold the illusion of democracy.
Anyone still supporting this shit show. Tory or Labour should be ashamed.
I think some people who are decrying Starmer and that he needs to be booted out fail to realise *he commissioned the report*. That doesn’t strike me as the action of someone trying to cover up a labour conspiracy.
Without repeating what others have said, I’d be curious as to know which seats had their funds diverted from and whether there was a realistic prospect of Labour winning the seat. I know of a handful of seats which I think would be unlikely to vote for Labour under Corbyn because of some of Corbyn’s views rather than a conspiracy. The one that comes to mind for me is the Copeland constituency which by and large voted against Corbyn’s nuclear agenda for which the last labour MP stepped down partially due to it, triggering a by-election in which Labour lost the seat for the first time (one of the many ‘redwall’ seats). I imagine it might return back to Labour at the next election with Corbyn out of the picture and Starmer in general consensus with the current gov’s nuclear policy (civil and defense).