I was told numerous times today that it’s all a conspiracy, the fires were started deliberately and it’s all ‘part of the plan’
So no, at least for someone, we aren’t.
I don’t think the problem is listening, the problem is acting.
12 years of nothing from this government and they’re still peddling the windfarms are eyesores nonsense
It’s the government’s job to listen to those scientists but it’s our job to vote for people that are not morons and that’ll listen. Please vote for Labour – they are pro-nuclear
Not until there is profit in it
Tories: “No. I have taxes to dodge”
To really fight climate change we need restrictions on the big polluters not tax offsets or whatever they call it.
I really don’t think we will change our ways before it’s too late.
Sadly not when there’s still money to be made, nope.
No.
The average person is not ready to give up things like animal products or holidays abroad, the super rich are not prepared to give up extravagant consumption and companies are not going to suddenly stop their polluting activities out of the goodness of their hearts. We all need to do something to stop climate change but people are so busy blaming corporations and corporations blaming people for us to actually do anything meaningful. People will listen when we are struggling to feed ourselves and people are dying in their thousands because of the heat and not a minute more.
Not whilst the US, China, Russia, Germany et al are quite so heavily invested in fossil fuels, no. We are not ready to talk about any of this.
I mean we can do but it’s not going to make a blind bit of difference. We can talk our arses off and have the greenest country in the world – but unless the top ten polluters sort their shit out, they are going to cook us all whether we like it or not.
Yearly heatwave. It’s awesome!
If it gets anywhere important, very possibly.
Nope.
Because the public, NOT THE GOVERNMENT, the PUBLIC are denying construction of nuclear plants under stupid beliefs that its’ still dangerous when it isn’t, that it’ll be terrorist target (hahaha).
And no to windfarms to take advantage of some of the strongest, most consistent winds in the EU from the SW, because it’ll “spoil the view and lower my house price.”
Between 1990 and 2017, we’ve cut CO2 output by 35.6% compared to 19.5% of the EU, and an increase of .4% by the US of A. We’ve listened to climate scientists in the UK and taken action. How about the rest of the world get off their ass?
To the doomers, a small glimmer of hope. Some Oxford meteorology professor geezer was on BBC breakfast this morning and the presenter was giving him the usual media guff about “but professor can we really afford to make the drastic changes it would take to combat critical warming?”
And he said “for less than the increase in profits fossil fuel companies have made this year alone they could capture and bury every scrap of carbon they have emitted.”
But here’s the tough part
He followed it up by saying “but they won’t because they are not charities and so they must be required to do it”….. And that is where we come in.
So here’s the question, how are we gonna do it? Cos we’ve all tried voting and yet here we are…
Edit. His name is Prof Myles Allen, sadly I can only find silent clips with subs on YouTube so you can’t hear the frustration, exasperation and frank weariness in his voice when he is asked, by a state funded journalist, about the cost to business if we have to adapt and he has to explain in, to my socialist ears, a basic ass liberal way how, if we just legislated just a tiny bit more, we could solve a huge existential problem so wouldn’t all have to fucking die. He even addresses it on the corporation’s own terms by accepting their premise that:
1) they should exist; and
2) they should be allowed make a profit off the destruction of us all
And this is **honestly the best the BBC can do.
Starts around 7 mins, just after the uncontrollable wildfires segment…. lol
No the government is not ready to listen to climate scientists yet, the writing is on the wall there is a lot of science and a lot of possible solutions by said climate scientists but the government is obsessed with trans women and want everyone else to be obsessed with trans women so they can keep ensuring that the climate emergency keeps going. But what do I know I’m just a trans woman environmental scientist.
Lol
Oh wait, you’re being serious?
Ed Milliband made some good points on Good Morning Britain. It’s a shame that politicians and activists on the left all use overly academic language. The warnings and solutions need to be worded more simply so that your average person understands it.
Too late now I’m afraid.
You can’t change planetary evolution.
Yeah what are they saying?
Who’s we?
We corporations: forget it.
We consumers: “If I can afford it.”
We politicians: “Ok I’ll listen, then what?”
Every single, in particular westerner can do something. And if that happened and the effort was sustained not because you had to, but because you knew it was the right thing do to, it would matter.
Net zero just confirms the latency already built into the system. Net zero by 2050 means another 28 years before we even reach a point where no more warming is added.
To be clear if we stopped all emissions right now, this second. Warming will still increase as we wait for the latency of the last 20 to 30 years to catch up.
So this is just an amuse bouche of what we have brought upon ourselves.
Anybody who says that we can have business as usual and still mitigate global warming is a liar or a a lunatic.
Nuclear will not solve warming issues now because the lead time is so long.
Honestly the only thing that will stop this is a reduction in consumption and no one will offer this to the electorate and even if they did the electorate wouldn’t vote for it because.
Are people ready to stop voting Tory? Ha, I wish – I’m afraid it’s drowning and / or burning to death then
I think it’s safe for me to speak on behalf of a worryingly large portion of the population and say “no.”
You’re asking the wrong people, we always have been
I’m tired. I’m doing all I can to do my bit.
I’ve reduced my meat consumption, I’m not having kids, I barely drive my car, I use public transport, I recycle, etc. It isn’t enough, and it’ll never be enough. I’m just tired. Everything feels hopeless and I’m just so depressed about everything going on that my only thought is: what’s the point in trying to enjoy life when it’ll all be up in flames eventually?
I’m just so sick and tired of this world and its government powers. They don’t care.
We do listen to climate scientists though. We respond with ‘yeah it’s terrible isn’t it’, then the next day we expand oil drilling because growth and gdp override everything else.
Governments don’t care about the link between the two, civilisation collapse means as much as poverty, as in nothing. Short term monetary gain, that’s all they know.
We keep stressing things and saying them as though the 372,513,974th time will be different. It won’t.
Politicians are full of shit. We know this, come on.
Sure loads of people are, but a lot more aren’t, just go read comments on the dailymail. We’re totally fucked.
The main priority should be to get the big powers (US, China) do their bit. We can do all we want here but without them fully on board it is like passing into a headwind.
Climate Scientists:
It’s too late to stop the climate disaster from happening. The future is doomed!
OK, let’s listen to them. Let’s just all go commit mass suicide right now, just to save time and speed up our untimely demise!
[Please don’t really do that! If you’re suicidal and reading this, please seek help from your doctor, and get support from your friends and/or family!]
Just like with the masks, you’ll still find people who refuse to co-operate, not because they don’t believe, but because they don’t want to do anything that might help their political opposition.
I’m genuinely worried for the health of a lot of people who post on this sub. The negativity sounds pathological.
I recommend you read two books …
Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters
Factfulness: Ten Reasons We’re Wrong About The World – And Why Things Are Better Than You Think
Its very unhealthy to have so much negativity within yourself.
The medias misrepresentation of the real climate science is extremely dangerous.
No until the 1% do something nothing will change
If we’re not yet listening to them then it’s all lost. My PhD is in wind energy, so we get a lot of talks on climate and what measures are needed to curb it. We’re nowhere close. We needed to start acting in 2019 and acting radically, but obviously that didn’t happen.
I had all my tropical fish die from heat overnight :/
This isn’t acceptable
Nah… I still have green grass in my garden and my house isn’t on fire. /s
Two days of heat during the uk summer time and people lose their shit and turn into climate experts because facebook told them so…
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Daily Mail tomorrow “It’s just a little fire”
I was told numerous times today that it’s all a conspiracy, the fires were started deliberately and it’s all ‘part of the plan’
So no, at least for someone, we aren’t.
I don’t think the problem is listening, the problem is acting.
12 years of nothing from this government and they’re still peddling the windfarms are eyesores nonsense
It’s the government’s job to listen to those scientists but it’s our job to vote for people that are not morons and that’ll listen. Please vote for Labour – they are pro-nuclear
Not until there is profit in it
Tories: “No. I have taxes to dodge”
To really fight climate change we need restrictions on the big polluters not tax offsets or whatever they call it.
I really don’t think we will change our ways before it’s too late.
Sadly not when there’s still money to be made, nope.
No.
The average person is not ready to give up things like animal products or holidays abroad, the super rich are not prepared to give up extravagant consumption and companies are not going to suddenly stop their polluting activities out of the goodness of their hearts. We all need to do something to stop climate change but people are so busy blaming corporations and corporations blaming people for us to actually do anything meaningful. People will listen when we are struggling to feed ourselves and people are dying in their thousands because of the heat and not a minute more.
Not whilst the US, China, Russia, Germany et al are quite so heavily invested in fossil fuels, no. We are not ready to talk about any of this.
I mean we can do but it’s not going to make a blind bit of difference. We can talk our arses off and have the greenest country in the world – but unless the top ten polluters sort their shit out, they are going to cook us all whether we like it or not.
Yearly heatwave. It’s awesome!
If it gets anywhere important, very possibly.
Nope.
Because the public, NOT THE GOVERNMENT, the PUBLIC are denying construction of nuclear plants under stupid beliefs that its’ still dangerous when it isn’t, that it’ll be terrorist target (hahaha).
And no to windfarms to take advantage of some of the strongest, most consistent winds in the EU from the SW, because it’ll “spoil the view and lower my house price.”
Between 1990 and 2017, we’ve cut CO2 output by 35.6% compared to 19.5% of the EU, and an increase of .4% by the US of A. We’ve listened to climate scientists in the UK and taken action. How about the rest of the world get off their ass?
To the doomers, a small glimmer of hope. Some Oxford meteorology professor geezer was on BBC breakfast this morning and the presenter was giving him the usual media guff about “but professor can we really afford to make the drastic changes it would take to combat critical warming?”
And he said “for less than the increase in profits fossil fuel companies have made this year alone they could capture and bury every scrap of carbon they have emitted.”
But here’s the tough part
He followed it up by saying “but they won’t because they are not charities and so they must be required to do it”….. And that is where we come in.
So here’s the question, how are we gonna do it? Cos we’ve all tried voting and yet here we are…
Edit. His name is Prof Myles Allen, sadly I can only find silent clips with subs on YouTube so you can’t hear the frustration, exasperation and frank weariness in his voice when he is asked, by a state funded journalist, about the cost to business if we have to adapt and he has to explain in, to my socialist ears, a basic ass liberal way how, if we just legislated just a tiny bit more, we could solve a huge existential problem so wouldn’t all have to fucking die. He even addresses it on the corporation’s own terms by accepting their premise that:
1) they should exist; and
2) they should be allowed make a profit off the destruction of us all
And this is **honestly the best the BBC can do.
Starts around 7 mins, just after the uncontrollable wildfires segment…. lol
https://youtu.be/smIPwD7Q1cA
No the government is not ready to listen to climate scientists yet, the writing is on the wall there is a lot of science and a lot of possible solutions by said climate scientists but the government is obsessed with trans women and want everyone else to be obsessed with trans women so they can keep ensuring that the climate emergency keeps going. But what do I know I’m just a trans woman environmental scientist.
Lol
Oh wait, you’re being serious?
Ed Milliband made some good points on Good Morning Britain. It’s a shame that politicians and activists on the left all use overly academic language. The warnings and solutions need to be worded more simply so that your average person understands it.
Too late now I’m afraid.
You can’t change planetary evolution.
Yeah what are they saying?
Who’s we?
We corporations: forget it.
We consumers: “If I can afford it.”
We politicians: “Ok I’ll listen, then what?”
Every single, in particular westerner can do something. And if that happened and the effort was sustained not because you had to, but because you knew it was the right thing do to, it would matter.
Net zero just confirms the latency already built into the system. Net zero by 2050 means another 28 years before we even reach a point where no more warming is added.
To be clear if we stopped all emissions right now, this second. Warming will still increase as we wait for the latency of the last 20 to 30 years to catch up.
So this is just an amuse bouche of what we have brought upon ourselves.
Anybody who says that we can have business as usual and still mitigate global warming is a liar or a a lunatic.
Nuclear will not solve warming issues now because the lead time is so long.
Honestly the only thing that will stop this is a reduction in consumption and no one will offer this to the electorate and even if they did the electorate wouldn’t vote for it because.
Are people ready to stop voting Tory? Ha, I wish – I’m afraid it’s drowning and / or burning to death then
I think it’s safe for me to speak on behalf of a worryingly large portion of the population and say “no.”
You’re asking the wrong people, we always have been
I’m tired. I’m doing all I can to do my bit.
I’ve reduced my meat consumption, I’m not having kids, I barely drive my car, I use public transport, I recycle, etc. It isn’t enough, and it’ll never be enough. I’m just tired. Everything feels hopeless and I’m just so depressed about everything going on that my only thought is: what’s the point in trying to enjoy life when it’ll all be up in flames eventually?
I’m just so sick and tired of this world and its government powers. They don’t care.
We do listen to climate scientists though. We respond with ‘yeah it’s terrible isn’t it’, then the next day we expand oil drilling because growth and gdp override everything else.
Governments don’t care about the link between the two, civilisation collapse means as much as poverty, as in nothing. Short term monetary gain, that’s all they know.
We keep stressing things and saying them as though the 372,513,974th time will be different. It won’t.
Politicians are full of shit. We know this, come on.
Sure loads of people are, but a lot more aren’t, just go read comments on the dailymail. We’re totally fucked.
The main priority should be to get the big powers (US, China) do their bit. We can do all we want here but without them fully on board it is like passing into a headwind.
Climate Scientists:
It’s too late to stop the climate disaster from happening. The future is doomed!
OK, let’s listen to them. Let’s just all go commit mass suicide right now, just to save time and speed up our untimely demise!
[Please don’t really do that! If you’re suicidal and reading this, please seek help from your doctor, and get support from your friends and/or family!]
Just like with the masks, you’ll still find people who refuse to co-operate, not because they don’t believe, but because they don’t want to do anything that might help their political opposition.
I’m genuinely worried for the health of a lot of people who post on this sub. The negativity sounds pathological.
I recommend you read two books …
Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters
Factfulness: Ten Reasons We’re Wrong About The World – And Why Things Are Better Than You Think
Its very unhealthy to have so much negativity within yourself.
The medias misrepresentation of the real climate science is extremely dangerous.
No until the 1% do something nothing will change
If we’re not yet listening to them then it’s all lost. My PhD is in wind energy, so we get a lot of talks on climate and what measures are needed to curb it. We’re nowhere close. We needed to start acting in 2019 and acting radically, but obviously that didn’t happen.
I had all my tropical fish die from heat overnight :/
This isn’t acceptable
Nah… I still have green grass in my garden and my house isn’t on fire. /s
Two days of heat during the uk summer time and people lose their shit and turn into climate experts because facebook told them so…
Get a grip