
So this article is stating that there is a gender gap but I believe that it’s not a straight forward statement.
Women tend to held less high-paying jobs and less dangerous jobs. Women tend to care for their children more so less time for advancements. The way the article is laid down makes women seem more unequal then they truly are.
Malta’s gender gap remains among worst in Europe – World Economic Forum
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Dude the source is the WEF. It’s not trustworthy.
This article is badly written. With questionable sources.
“The report notes that when it comes to reproductive autonomy, men and women have unequal rights. ”
Can’t imagine what this refers to, from what I read on this sub Malta has one of the best reproductive rights on the planet and everyone’s happy with them.
The shift news, alright then
They should rename themselves as “theshitnews” for spouting bullshit.
Ifhem, I think we’d be living in fairyland if we thought there wasn’t any inequality. But studies need to be conducted using correct figures. Men have an estimated income of 40k, and women of 30k? most men here would be over the moon with 30k lol…bad statistics are problematic since they make it easy to dismiss an issue regardless of how present it is.
I’m not really getting your point here, you mean that there is no gender gap? there is, everywhere. You mean that women tend to held less dangerous jobs so they get paid less for it? And of course the right of abortion plays a big role on it
>Women tend to care for their children more so less time for advancements.
This is often stated to be a free choice, but often women have lower starting salaries and make less than their husbands (even if they work similar jobs) so if one partner takes the career hit, it’s the lesser-earning partner who takes the hit. And that affects your earning potential going forwards, too.
In addition, there’s often a societal expectation that women will be the ones looking after the children. I certainly got some strange looks as a female breadwinner when my husband was a SAHD. I can imagine it could be quite restrictive for Maltese women, who have families who I’m sure all have an opinion. There were quite a few dads doing klabb pick-ups, but very few dads doing school pick-ups, and very few dads attending birthday parties etc.
Malta does do a lot to make it possible for mothers to work, though – there are lots of school hours jobs and childcare is readibly available and affordable – and that’s brilliant!
Gender gap on salaries? Nah. Government employees all have the same wages irrespective of gender and private owned companies (especially Maltese owned) just don’t offer a good wage to any gender.
Inequality is highlighted when it comes to taking up bank loans. If a woman with the same wage and age as a man asks for a loan, she will be given a lesser amount cause of the possibility of maternity leave.
I don’t agree with most of the comments here. There definitely is a gap in Malta – there is a gap everywhere in the world and Malta is far from a leader in this area. The least we can do is acknowledge that there is much more to do and get to work.
Men should do more to encourage women than they currently do. We can’t default to stereotyping women when we’re uneasy with how they make us feel in leadership positions or link mistakes they make to “women’s nature or temperament” – get off the high horse. This both is and is not a generalisation – not all men are pigs and assholes, but even the good ones are tempted at times. After all men are from Mars…
Women also struggle with impostor syndrome which makes them feel like they don’t deserve better and this collectively brings them down. They and men must change this through fair feedback and encouragement.
Although there have been strides to create better opportunities and conditions for women’s empowerment and reduce discrimination, the culture is still lagging. The unspoken expectations of women and micro-agressions severely undermine their support in the populist mainstream media. So many (that I know of) gender discrimination or harassment issues in Malta’s workplaces are overlooked and badly handled by (deliberately?) incompetent HR practices. All talk, no action.
Women leaders in business and public service should take the responsibility of representing the cause by delivering great work, shamelessly promoting their successes and encouraging young women to know they can achieve as much and more than men.
In fairness, I think all of this applies globally and perpetually. But I speak about Malta because my mother, sisters, nieces and friends live there too.
In this thread: men who don’t understand the concept of gender gap
So to repeat the many answers to this question.
1. Man tend to have more dangerous jobs, hence the higher pay.
2. If Women get paid less then men, why would an employer even hire men if they do the same job but men take more money. doesn’t it make sense to save as much money?
3. Stop watching buzzfeed or any other american media without having the mental capacity to do your own research ( which doesnt include ignoring hundreds of articles discrediting the myth but instead picking the one that fits your agenda
Yes there is a gender pay gap. It might not be as straightforward as a male and a female having the same qualifications and experience and being paid differently, but it manifests over time due to unequal laws and opportunities. Here’s an example. Sam and Tina both have the same qualifications and experience and are employed with the same company. The company is paying them the same salary when they started. Sam and his wife had a baby, Sam only had 1 day of paternity leave and he returned to work soon after the birth. Tina was also pregnant, she had severe nausea and had to stop working when 6 months pregnant. Maternity leave was 4 months only which is nowhere near enough time to leave a baby with a carer so she stayed with baby for another 5 months using up her parental leave. By the time that she returned to work, Sam had the opportunity to apply for a promotion and his pay and position is now better. Tina now needs to work full time while also taking care of a household and a child’s needs because her partner ‘helps out’ around the house and ‘babysits’ the baby but won’t remember to take responsibility for the mental load of raising a child so that stress also falls on her. It doesn’t help that the company does not have family friendly work measures, so all family related matters need to be handled after 5pm. With this extra stress, Tina can’t apply for a promotion, because it’s too much responsibility plus she has now lost a few months of work experience compared to Sam. Sam has a second baby, his life changes some more but he’s back at work after his second is born. His wife is breastfeeding and she stays home with both kids now. He applies for another promotion and he gets it. Tina also has her second child, and with two children she has to stop working for 2 years. By the time that she returns to work, she has much less experience than Sam and a much lower pay. How can this situation improve you may ask, it’s human nature! Well, reproductive rights help, abortion rights help, more parental leave for the father or both parents help, a realistic amount of maternity leave helps, family friendly work measures help, not shaming women who choose to bottle feed helps, raising boys to be equally responsible for the household chores helps. I could go on, but I think you’re understanding my point.
The is also a wage gap between stupid lazy people and smart hardworking people, let’s just go full communism and everyone get the same salary.
Men and women can never be equal in my opinion.
No matter how hard they try, no matter what achievements they accomplish, no matter how great they think they are, or how the laws or culture might change… men will never be able to do what all women inherently are capable of – creating human beings.
Even today, men still try to invent [new sophisticated ways](https://c.tenor.com/VG0w5MBTFQoAAAAd/nebula-alien.gif) to prove their superiority but it rarely works out.
As soon as we enforce gender equality for bricklayers and plumbers, we can have a discussion!
I guess part of the problem is here:
*the report shows that while male legislators, senior officials and managers make up 71.48% of the workforce, women in the same positions make up 28.52%.*
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How to get a better balance here, and make sure that women in those positions don’t get paid less simply because they are women.
Hmmmm if women are paid less than men, would companies hire only women so they could pay them less than what they should pay when they hire men?
In terms of EQUALITY there is no (significant) gender pay gap. I would say that Malta (anecdotally) has one of the worst glass ceilings in Europe.
However,
In terms of EQUITY there is a significant gender pay gap. Women who bare children must take time off while men don’t have too.
If you want an equal society tackle the problem of workplace discrimination not the (pay) aspect.
If you want an equitable society. You are supporting socialist ideas. Please don’t.
I must be a bloke then, as I earn more than most men.