with all this talk about emissions I’d like to point out Taylor swift has emitted over 8,000 tons of co2 this year flying around. the average person emits only 7 tons a year. its absolutely disgusting how its always pushed on the average person to be mindful of their carbon footprint

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  4. What a fucking dumb take. The vast majority of musicians tour. So if they tour to other continents then they need to fly. Are you suggesting that people should only ever see local bands?

  6. This shite being pushed all week. It doesn’t matter what Taylor swift does, you should still do your part. I don’t dump my rubbish on the roadside because others are dumping washing machines and sure that’s much worse. Grow up.

  7. The nationalist reaction to this from people who are in no way nationalist on nationalist stuff that actually matters is amusing.

    Climate Change won’t be solved by nationalism and individual consumer choices.

  8. The EU specifically put an exemption on carbon taxes for private jets. Remember that when you’re paying extra to fill up your oil heater this winter.

  9. I’m absolutely stunned how people don’t see this as being relevant giving the recent Irish undertaking to the EU WRT cutting farming emissions.

    It’s a very relatable real world example of how ineffective personal responsibility is in the grand scheme of things.

    Will a collective effort help, and should we all be mindful? Absolutely.

    Should we make our lives a shit show of sacrifice while others pollute 1,000x more than any of us? Prolly not.

  10. Here’s an idea. Ban private jet flights where a commercial flight exists. If a celeb wants to fly from London to Paris, or New York to LA, they can go first class, but their jet stays in the hangar.
    Simple thing. Will cut emissions. Will it get done? Will it fuck.

  15. It won’t fix the problem on it’s own, but private jets absolutely need to be banned. I was reading a Guardian article earlier about Drake and his 14 minute private jet rides and it said that yearly private jets account for 33 million tonnes or co2 emissions. That’s about the same as the entire country of Denmark.

    It’s just a massively inefficient way of transport and a free win in the fight against climate change. As well, when ordinary people see the likes of Swift using her private jet so much it demoralises us to the point that many wonder what’s the point of bothering trying to reduce our own emissions when the elites are getting away with this. Actually holding the elites to account would be a huge step.

  17. Seen this is a fairly poorly researched article and it’s already been debunked.

    Taylor swifts *jet* has emitted that much co2. When she’s not using it herself she rents it out to others, so its not her personal carbon footprint

  24. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) Shhhhh your talking too much sense. Stop eating meat too and stop having as much showers. Your the problem not the private jets

  25. Kinda unfair to compare her to random people. Her salary could probably pay for heating of medium sized town and private jet is semi required for commuting for her job.

  28. There’re a lot of average people, mind.

    So it’s like a little times a lot rather than a lot times a little.

    Still fucking sickening.

  29. I’m guessing she’s travelling to concerts that people are attending….so her travel is fuelled mainly by the public consumption? My point being that her lifestyle is driven by ordinary people who seem to idolise someone for singing songs. I maintain the only way to deal with celebrity jet setters is to publicly shame them out of it. Make it socially unacceptable. Before long we could have them tweeting from their Ryan air seats. However, the plane prob take off as it would be swamped by fans anywhere it went. Maybe it’s idolising people like this that we need to stop.

  30. This is only offensive if you’re childish enough to believe that people like Taylor Swift are something other than vacuous celebrities. Her carbon footprint is grotesque, but if you’re shocked by this because you thought she was some sort of role model then you really need to acquire more life experience

  31. When I lived in Australia I remember watching TV in Queensland and they had this ridiculous campaign where they local industrial and agricultural interests were trying to cripple legislation to try and reduce carbon emissions by arguing that Australians don’t emit as much as places like China overall so that its no Australia’s responsibility to do anything to tackle emissions. They had all these adverts that went on TV arguing this stuff, and seemingly it worked.

    Australia currently has CO2 emissions of 16.8 metric tons per capita per annum, which is really bad, some of the worst in the world, more than twice that of the average Chinese person that Australians were complaining about as the true problem.

    Ireland’s emissions aren’t as bad as Australia’s, but they are still bad, we have 7.7 tons per capita per annum, this isn’t as bad as places like Germany (who are currently waking up to the obvious dangers of their way too fossil fuel dependent economy) and the Netherlands (who, ironically, are in the middle of a major crisis brought on by resistance to policies trying to reduce carbon emissions) but its a lot worse than most of the rest of Europe, in the UK, Spain and Italy emissions are almost two tons less per person compared to here, in France and Sweden its even lower than that. None of these countries could really be considered sustainable but they are a darn sight better than Ireland.

    The point I’m trying to make when I bring up these things is that when it comes to climate, all attempts to try and fight the climate crisis and reduce emissions inevitably seem to be attacked with ‘Well, other people are doing this too, and worse than us, so fuck off’. I think its the worst possible attitude, its an argument for inaction and apathy when we are long past the point for either. Yeah I’d certainly love if they would permanently ground Taylor Swift’s jetliner and every other dumb celeb who has one, I’d love it if China and Australia and America and Russia and Saudi Arabia and Canada and Trinidad and Tobago slashed their emissions because they are all currently far worse than us on both a per capita and total CO2 emissions basis, but I don’t live in America or other such countries so I can’t do anything meaningful to influence policy. I do live in Ireland though, and I don’t think that Ireland’s emissions are in the least bit acceptable and I want to do something about that so if it comes to supporting government policies to tackle this problem here, where I have a marginal power to do so as a concerned citizen, I’ll take it where I can get it regardless of what Taylor Swift does.

  32. Holding ordinary people accountable for climate change while nothing changes for big corporations and governments is as bad as doing nothing. Changing the energy matrix and creating more rail connectivity is the responsibility of those who have the power and money to do so. We as individuals can put more solar panels in our homes, recycle our waste, but that only works if all the infrastructure for that is maintained by the government and if the industry really gets rid of carbon, which is not going to be done by building more pipelines.

  33. Its definitely our 1 litre engine cars lads

    Just get a luxury electric car you will be paying till you are 70 years old or get the fucking train will ya?

  34. I mean we fly tons of coffee, avocado around the world which are luxury items, Taylor Swift is just another luxury item.

    Weirdly, avocados have heavy carbon footprints, up there with meat. Thats not getting into SUVs, dishwashers, washing machines etc.

    I think the latest carbon cutting drive is more about tax intake than cutting emissions. And more about going up against easy targets than difficult targets that would cause backlash at elections.

  35. I read today that those aren’t her emissions but her jet’s which is often rented by others. Still any private jet emissions isn’t good but the figures in this article are skewed by ownership rather than their own number of trips.

  36. …and yet, even this spectacularly misses the bigger picture that the term “Carbon Footprint” was invented by BP to distract us from the fossil fuel industries part in all this. [https://mashable.com/feature/carbon-footprint-pr-campaign-sham](https://mashable.com/feature/carbon-footprint-pr-campaign-sham)

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    Human nature loves a good individual witchhunt, don’t be fooled into vilifiying individuals. Not saying she couldn’t think of being a little less wasteful, but she’s a touring musician, rarely travelling alone, private or charttered flights aren’t unususal and hey imagine trying to board a commercial flight in peace if you were Taylor Swift? I mean it’s always been that way, no-one seems to be whinging about the Rolling Stones CO2 output…

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