Oh fuck that. You want to fix the problem. Build more businesses outside of dublin. Pull the focus out of the shitole and spread it through the country. Plentt of space and fow new estates, schools and shops before houses.
Ah. Race to the bottom. Exactly what we need in our housing sector.
New houses already have postage stamp gardens as it is.
That feel when you already have a garden long enough to build a 2nd house on 😎
New builds in Dublin don’t have front gardens, and only have postage stamp back gardens. You can’t get any smaller!
Anybody with a large garden that may be interested in selling it for a new dwelling to be built gets hit with a big tax charge.
This guy has no clue and doesn’t care
Build Flats and Apartment blocks, pool the would-be-gardens into parks with trees and proper recreational objects like a small playground or basketball/soccer courts
In my view, the whole point of Ireland’s endless urban sprawl was because people wanted gardens. If tiny unusable gardens are now going to be reality, shouldn’t the planning system begin to encourage well-planned 3-/4-bedroom apartments with a decent balcony? Would be a lot nicer than a miserable patch of grass overshadowed by your own wheelie bins.
Will never happen of course. But the solution is already there, across Europe. We just refuse to see it.
New houses gardens are already just so small and just for the sake of it, how much worse will it get
Building more houses for fuck sake. The new gardens are already tiny.
Bollocks I’d say. If the back garden occupies 25% of the site and you halve that. Your saving is 12.5% of the plot. Say average new house is 250k, 20% is 50K so that is what your 12.5% is worth which makes the whole site worth 400k – what am I missing? The extra houses which could be built on the sum of the 12.5% bits ?. Gardens are tiny as it is and often bounded by high walls or adjoining/adjacent buildings which make the ‘garden’ all but useless except as a storage area for bikes and bins.
Prediction: house prices do not fall. Gardens get smaller anyway.
The point of living in a house over an apartment is to have a garden. If you’re going to reduce the size of gardens even more than they already have been, then we would be better off living in apartments.
House prices are demand driven. Smaller gardens just means more developers profit
New housing estates have tiny back gardens, no (or shared) front gardens and tight compact roads throughout. The houses/apartments are already on top of each other. I’m no feng shui expert but i think we’re doing it wrong as it is. I’m sure there’s some study out there about rats being more angsty when they live on top of each other and generally happier when they have ample space.
annd that 20% will be eaten up by greeedy developers and back handers to our greedy landlord TDs
they forgot the part when he said, “no fucking way I’d live in one though.”
Why not allowed people build houses in their back yards provided they have services and fire access. Right now I’m allowed build a granny flat but not a log cabin.
Oh fuck off. Everyone in this thread is speaking truths. Maybe there should be incentives for first time buyers buying 2nd hand houses rather than fueling this new house stuff. I get it, you buy a new house and have to buy all the white goods, do it up etc thereby creating a multiplier effect.
Maybe though we take care of first time buyers, let’s not have govt funded housing ages (Cluid etc) competing against private first time buyers on new houses. Let the govt return to building houses for the people who need them rather than competing with those who can just about afford them. Give first time buyers the chance to own a house with a decent back garden and somewhere to park their car.
It’s not like Ireland is choc full of parks and activities for kids if the approach is to have no back gardens (which are small as it is). These estates being built often have no communal green areas and or playgrounds and kids are playing on roads with traffic. Terrible.
I’ve a crazy notion; instead of a garden, why don’t they do a semi-d thing, but attach another house to the back as well as to both sides? And then attach more houses to the back and sides of those other houses? And maybe then they could even build a whole second layer of houses on top of the first, and maybe even another layer on top of that one! We could call them, I dunno, not-the-slightest-bit-detached homes or something. I’m gonna patent this design and make a fortune!
Edit: Wait, why are there suddenly a bunch of OAPs with torches and pitchforks outside waving “SAVE OUR VILLAGE” posters and trying to break down my front door?
Just shows how out of touch the buffoon is, small gardens were a Bertie bubble norm. Typical landlord.
and this fucking thumb calls himself housing minister? sure, with climate, energy, mental health, cost of living etc, gardens and nature are obviously the part we should try to cut out…
maybe he should only be allowed to eat meals made from veg that has been grown in 2/3 of one newly outlined garden patch. might help getting his head oot his arse eventually..
New builds have horrendously small gardens as is and front gardens are non existent
Just shows how FF only give a shit about helping developers line their pockets. I wonder how much of a kickback he gets for pushing through stuff like this.
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Oh fuck that. You want to fix the problem. Build more businesses outside of dublin. Pull the focus out of the shitole and spread it through the country. Plentt of space and fow new estates, schools and shops before houses.
Ah. Race to the bottom. Exactly what we need in our housing sector.
New houses already have postage stamp gardens as it is.
That feel when you already have a garden long enough to build a 2nd house on 😎
New builds in Dublin don’t have front gardens, and only have postage stamp back gardens. You can’t get any smaller!
Anybody with a large garden that may be interested in selling it for a new dwelling to be built gets hit with a big tax charge.
This guy has no clue and doesn’t care
Build Flats and Apartment blocks, pool the would-be-gardens into parks with trees and proper recreational objects like a small playground or basketball/soccer courts
In my view, the whole point of Ireland’s endless urban sprawl was because people wanted gardens. If tiny unusable gardens are now going to be reality, shouldn’t the planning system begin to encourage well-planned 3-/4-bedroom apartments with a decent balcony? Would be a lot nicer than a miserable patch of grass overshadowed by your own wheelie bins.
Will never happen of course. But the solution is already there, across Europe. We just refuse to see it.
New houses gardens are already just so small and just for the sake of it, how much worse will it get
Building more houses for fuck sake. The new gardens are already tiny.
Bollocks I’d say. If the back garden occupies 25% of the site and you halve that. Your saving is 12.5% of the plot. Say average new house is 250k, 20% is 50K so that is what your 12.5% is worth which makes the whole site worth 400k – what am I missing? The extra houses which could be built on the sum of the 12.5% bits ?. Gardens are tiny as it is and often bounded by high walls or adjoining/adjacent buildings which make the ‘garden’ all but useless except as a storage area for bikes and bins.
Prediction: house prices do not fall. Gardens get smaller anyway.
The point of living in a house over an apartment is to have a garden. If you’re going to reduce the size of gardens even more than they already have been, then we would be better off living in apartments.
House prices are demand driven. Smaller gardens just means more developers profit
New housing estates have tiny back gardens, no (or shared) front gardens and tight compact roads throughout. The houses/apartments are already on top of each other. I’m no feng shui expert but i think we’re doing it wrong as it is. I’m sure there’s some study out there about rats being more angsty when they live on top of each other and generally happier when they have ample space.
annd that 20% will be eaten up by greeedy developers and back handers to our greedy landlord TDs
they forgot the part when he said, “no fucking way I’d live in one though.”
Why not allowed people build houses in their back yards provided they have services and fire access. Right now I’m allowed build a granny flat but not a log cabin.
Oh fuck off. Everyone in this thread is speaking truths. Maybe there should be incentives for first time buyers buying 2nd hand houses rather than fueling this new house stuff. I get it, you buy a new house and have to buy all the white goods, do it up etc thereby creating a multiplier effect.
Maybe though we take care of first time buyers, let’s not have govt funded housing ages (Cluid etc) competing against private first time buyers on new houses. Let the govt return to building houses for the people who need them rather than competing with those who can just about afford them. Give first time buyers the chance to own a house with a decent back garden and somewhere to park their car.
It’s not like Ireland is choc full of parks and activities for kids if the approach is to have no back gardens (which are small as it is). These estates being built often have no communal green areas and or playgrounds and kids are playing on roads with traffic. Terrible.
I’ve a crazy notion; instead of a garden, why don’t they do a semi-d thing, but attach another house to the back as well as to both sides? And then attach more houses to the back and sides of those other houses? And maybe then they could even build a whole second layer of houses on top of the first, and maybe even another layer on top of that one! We could call them, I dunno, not-the-slightest-bit-detached homes or something. I’m gonna patent this design and make a fortune!
Edit: Wait, why are there suddenly a bunch of OAPs with torches and pitchforks outside waving “SAVE OUR VILLAGE” posters and trying to break down my front door?
Just shows how out of touch the buffoon is, small gardens were a Bertie bubble norm. Typical landlord.
and this fucking thumb calls himself housing minister? sure, with climate, energy, mental health, cost of living etc, gardens and nature are obviously the part we should try to cut out…
maybe he should only be allowed to eat meals made from veg that has been grown in 2/3 of one newly outlined garden patch. might help getting his head oot his arse eventually..
New builds have horrendously small gardens as is and front gardens are non existent
Just shows how FF only give a shit about helping developers line their pockets. I wonder how much of a kickback he gets for pushing through stuff like this.