Interesting ideas, I personally like the idea of the loose intergovernmental idea that is loosely affiliated and mainly used as a talking shop to coordinate (but this may because I’m a brit). Can’t see the UK going for the 1st option, it’s not really relevant to UK and non-accession members. But could be an interesting plug for those waiting for accession to make them feel like they are actually getting somewhere and connected to the EU.
They should run with the 2no. separate ideas, rather than trying to shoehorn everything in under one umbrella
The Eastern European accessions of 2004 and 2007 were not mistakes, but they happened far too quickly. Ditto with Greece’s accession to the Eurozone. We just can’t keep taking in countries that are not up to par, as acts of charity. We should make ourselves appealing to Iceland, Norway, and sensible Brits, instead of looking for new basket cases to add to our collection. This is a political and Economic union of serious countries, not a circus.
This could destroy European integration. It soubds like a Macron project only
“The third rationale was the perception in Paris that more needed to be done to ‘socialise’ the British”
Wow. This kind of offensive statement is why Brexit happened.
How to get UK money without UK being in the EU – by Macron teacherbanger.
Oh please, not another layer of complexity. Also, we already have two useless debating clubs for diplomats: The Council of Europe and the OSCE.
We don’t need more empty talking forums. The Council of Europe and the OSCE are already enough.
You’re either in the EU and you’re willing to integrate or you’re not. End of story. Please let us all stop dragging our feet and get real with it..
Good?
I think the concerned nations that were against didn’t misunderstood his proposition, they read it, then invented a parallel reality where France is some evil nation out to get them. Nobody ever said it was a definitive alternative to the accession, in fact the opposite was said, repeatedly. France said they would get cookies while waiting ice-cream they would have to wait anyway but they preferred waiting for ice-cream without that because paranoia. They refused an opportunity because they are mistrusting and ingrates. For me it’s a red flag, do we want to add countries that sees us as opponent? I wouldn’t want. Enjoy your decade of waiting alone in the room.
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Interesting ideas, I personally like the idea of the loose intergovernmental idea that is loosely affiliated and mainly used as a talking shop to coordinate (but this may because I’m a brit). Can’t see the UK going for the 1st option, it’s not really relevant to UK and non-accession members. But could be an interesting plug for those waiting for accession to make them feel like they are actually getting somewhere and connected to the EU.
They should run with the 2no. separate ideas, rather than trying to shoehorn everything in under one umbrella
The Eastern European accessions of 2004 and 2007 were not mistakes, but they happened far too quickly. Ditto with Greece’s accession to the Eurozone. We just can’t keep taking in countries that are not up to par, as acts of charity. We should make ourselves appealing to Iceland, Norway, and sensible Brits, instead of looking for new basket cases to add to our collection. This is a political and Economic union of serious countries, not a circus.
This could destroy European integration. It soubds like a Macron project only
“The third rationale was the perception in Paris that more needed to be done to ‘socialise’ the British”
Wow. This kind of offensive statement is why Brexit happened.
How to get UK money without UK being in the EU – by Macron teacherbanger.
Oh please, not another layer of complexity. Also, we already have two useless debating clubs for diplomats: The Council of Europe and the OSCE.
We don’t need more empty talking forums. The Council of Europe and the OSCE are already enough.
You’re either in the EU and you’re willing to integrate or you’re not. End of story. Please let us all stop dragging our feet and get real with it..
Good?
I think the concerned nations that were against didn’t misunderstood his proposition, they read it, then invented a parallel reality where France is some evil nation out to get them. Nobody ever said it was a definitive alternative to the accession, in fact the opposite was said, repeatedly. France said they would get cookies while waiting ice-cream they would have to wait anyway but they preferred waiting for ice-cream without that because paranoia. They refused an opportunity because they are mistrusting and ingrates. For me it’s a red flag, do we want to add countries that sees us as opponent? I wouldn’t want. Enjoy your decade of waiting alone in the room.