Cause the last one got burst in the bubble, languished for years with half complete infrastructure, and that’s happened before too.
Sees title * yay!
Sees beside clondalkin * nevermind
Seriously though any new developments feckin needed.
I heard it’s going to be called District 9.
What about the character of the fields? THE LOVELY FIELDS??
There’s a time and place for these kind of centrally-planned developments of course but what the country also needs is for private individuals (you and me) to consolidate out towns and cities by buying up poor quality and aging buildings and replacing them with 4-6 story apartment blocks
Why move out to a dreary suburb of Navan when myself and four or five friends could pool our money, demolish a house in Harold’s Cross and build our own apartments to our own needs and specifications (without a developer trying to shaft us for every cent)?
The only thing stopping me is that none of my friends really have any money…
Praying it doesn’t turn out like another Clongriffin.
How many times do they get to “announce” this? Are they going to announce the train station at Kishoge again as well?
Those better be 5+ storey apartment blocks.
Let’s hope this urban development works out better than the suburban development of the 1960s and onwards
Am I the only one that thinks Clonburris is a shite name?
Just doesn’t sound very appealing for whatever reason
Not as forward thinking as The Line, let’s see which one completes first!!
let me guess, not a single building over 10 stories?
can’t build taller than the spire or “that’ll ruin the view”
They are going to call it Dublin Two. So it’s not confusion with the already existing Dublin 2. Got it? Good.
Nice, some actual good, positive news.
Incredible. Everyone moans about housing needing to be built. A story about housing being built and 95% of comments here are people finding the most negative angle they can and complainig. The negativity on this sub is something else. Is the plan perfect? No but at least it’s something.
Not you common people….you stay out
Let’s just choose to be happy about this
First one of its kind?
Jesus. H. Christ.
Adamstown. The bolloxing mess that was meant to be a new supertown with a pool, and shopping and cinemas and a train station and…and…and…
Its got a bunch of apartments and some antisocial behaviour. And now right next door comes another super town!
As someone who was lived in Lucan my whole life this isn’t welcome news. They damn well better build new roads, schools, creches, shops, surgery’s, and every thing else needed. Because Lucan is full up. For real. You can barely get an appointment for a doctor or dentist. Waiting lists for creches are months long. And on and on.
God I’m such an Irish moan. But we’re all fed up of waiting lists and traffic and awful public transport. If I had the money I’d move out of Dublin tomorrow.
Clondalkin is being absolutely crammed with houses and apartments at the moment, the village is being destroyed.
More ground up projects like this one need to be happening instead of squashing tons of people into limited space in already developed areas with bad roads. I just hope the infrastructure is developed properly alongside the homes.
A town that, for sure, will be filled with migrants.
Some of us are old enough to remember when Tallaght was to be the next social metropolis. . . .
Great – when do the 3 other provinces get a look in ?
The big difference between this and prison is that when you finish your prison sentence you can get out.
The architects who designed it should be made to live in it.
What homes? All I see is apartment blocks.
I’m glad to see they’re putting it along the rail line, hopefully they build it with a modern transport emphasis(public and cycling) in mind from the beginning rather than trying to tack it on as an afterthought like elsewhere.(I know they say it in the plan but curious to see what that looks like in practice)
So will these be the affordable homes (450k) the government where talking about or will they cost more
Great they’re building housing, but this should be a car-free development as much is it possibly can be.
There is a dire situation in this country with regards thinking of the future when it comes to planning like this.
For example, the amount of money being spent on the Glass Bottle Site near Sandymount, when by all accounts that site will be underwater by 2050. If not completely underwater, then it will be plagued by flooding and the increased costs associated with flood protection.
Practically all units have already been bought by a vulture fund.
The council has offered them a 35 year lease for social housing.
They need it to house 5,000 Ukrainians, 4,000 Nigerians, 3,500 Syrians, 3,250 Zimbabweans, 2,400 Iraqis, 2,000 Afghans, 1,200 Georgians, 850 ”anti-Putin” Russians and two traveller families (790 people). 5 Irish couples have taken out €400,000 mortgages to buy the remaining five 2-bed apartments on the ground floor.
Expect the council to get sued for not providing enough local services (shops, pubs, schools, mosques, playgrounds etc).
How about they build a new, modernised town, literally fucking ANYWHERE ELSE in the entire country, except dublin.
Christ almighty, the misery seekers are out in force reacting to this.
For years every second post on this sub has been about not enough houses being built. Finally something like this is announced and straight away its:
“The name is shite”
“It’s near clondalkin, ew”
“What if it turns out to be like other social housing projects”
It’s fucking housing which we badly need, on an existing rail link and beside the canal which will be a nice feature for the residents.
You can’t win with some people.
That’s criminally few units in an area that size.
Same mistakes all over again.
For this well connected area 10-ish storeys would be appropriate. (8-15 general range, with the odd taller building)
Another half-arsed effort that will lead to more sprawl, more emissions, more urban wasteland with inevitable problems of crime and anti-social behaviour, more profits for vulture companies but nothing done to make houses affordable – if it ever gets built at all.
Yes, we need more housing but it needs to be intelligently planned and executed. You know what you call it when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result…
Yeah…last one they did was called Adamstown….still waiting on some of the facilities to be completed a generation later.
Wish they’d throw a tram down that arterial road that goes down to the Clonalkin foothill train. But that’s me playing too much cities skylines 😅
Great but its a housing estate in the middle of 20 other housing estates in Dublin.
I hope there a lot of happy private equity firms who are able to rent the town out 💗
There was me thinking adamastown was wished up out of thin air
Anyone wanna trade dublin for the north?
100 years down the line people won’t be living in Ireland anymore. The whole island will just be called Dublin.
Give me a fucking break with all this urban sprawl bollocks
Ballymun 2?
To put the size of this into context, Adamstown has a population of 3000 people
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Cause the last one got burst in the bubble, languished for years with half complete infrastructure, and that’s happened before too.
Sees title * yay!
Sees beside clondalkin * nevermind
Seriously though any new developments feckin needed.
I heard it’s going to be called District 9.
What about the character of the fields? THE LOVELY FIELDS??
There’s a time and place for these kind of centrally-planned developments of course but what the country also needs is for private individuals (you and me) to consolidate out towns and cities by buying up poor quality and aging buildings and replacing them with 4-6 story apartment blocks
This has been the done thing in Germany, Denmark and some other places for generations (you can read about postwar German urbanisation attempts- I can’t find any good links right now but if you ever go to somewhere like Bremen you can’t help but notice that there’s more life, community, character in their [suburbs](https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.0671772,8.7922773,3a,75y,108.21h,84.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scMGZFGL5qDGe0fv9ffAkMQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en) than there are in most of our cities)
A good account of where this approach didn’t live up to expectations is [Athens](https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20191011-the-surprising-story-of-athens-offbeat-architecture) but all the same it’s something that we need to start taking seriously
Why move out to a dreary suburb of Navan when myself and four or five friends could pool our money, demolish a house in Harold’s Cross and build our own apartments to our own needs and specifications (without a developer trying to shaft us for every cent)?
The only thing stopping me is that none of my friends really have any money…
Praying it doesn’t turn out like another Clongriffin.
How many times do they get to “announce” this? Are they going to announce the train station at Kishoge again as well?
Those better be 5+ storey apartment blocks.
Let’s hope this urban development works out better than the suburban development of the 1960s and onwards
Am I the only one that thinks Clonburris is a shite name?
Just doesn’t sound very appealing for whatever reason
Not as forward thinking as The Line, let’s see which one completes first!!
let me guess, not a single building over 10 stories?
can’t build taller than the spire or “that’ll ruin the view”
They are going to call it Dublin Two. So it’s not confusion with the already existing Dublin 2. Got it? Good.
Nice, some actual good, positive news.
Incredible. Everyone moans about housing needing to be built. A story about housing being built and 95% of comments here are people finding the most negative angle they can and complainig. The negativity on this sub is something else. Is the plan perfect? No but at least it’s something.
Not you common people….you stay out
Let’s just choose to be happy about this
First one of its kind?
Jesus. H. Christ.
Adamstown. The bolloxing mess that was meant to be a new supertown with a pool, and shopping and cinemas and a train station and…and…and…
Its got a bunch of apartments and some antisocial behaviour. And now right next door comes another super town!
As someone who was lived in Lucan my whole life this isn’t welcome news. They damn well better build new roads, schools, creches, shops, surgery’s, and every thing else needed. Because Lucan is full up. For real. You can barely get an appointment for a doctor or dentist. Waiting lists for creches are months long. And on and on.
God I’m such an Irish moan. But we’re all fed up of waiting lists and traffic and awful public transport. If I had the money I’d move out of Dublin tomorrow.
Clondalkin is being absolutely crammed with houses and apartments at the moment, the village is being destroyed.
More ground up projects like this one need to be happening instead of squashing tons of people into limited space in already developed areas with bad roads. I just hope the infrastructure is developed properly alongside the homes.
A town that, for sure, will be filled with migrants.
Some of us are old enough to remember when Tallaght was to be the next social metropolis. . . .
Great – when do the 3 other provinces get a look in ?
The big difference between this and prison is that when you finish your prison sentence you can get out.
The architects who designed it should be made to live in it.
What homes? All I see is apartment blocks.
I’m glad to see they’re putting it along the rail line, hopefully they build it with a modern transport emphasis(public and cycling) in mind from the beginning rather than trying to tack it on as an afterthought like elsewhere.(I know they say it in the plan but curious to see what that looks like in practice)
So will these be the affordable homes (450k) the government where talking about or will they cost more
Great they’re building housing, but this should be a car-free development as much is it possibly can be.
There is a dire situation in this country with regards thinking of the future when it comes to planning like this.
For example, the amount of money being spent on the Glass Bottle Site near Sandymount, when by all accounts that site will be underwater by 2050. If not completely underwater, then it will be plagued by flooding and the increased costs associated with flood protection.
Practically all units have already been bought by a vulture fund.
The council has offered them a 35 year lease for social housing.
They need it to house 5,000 Ukrainians, 4,000 Nigerians, 3,500 Syrians, 3,250 Zimbabweans, 2,400 Iraqis, 2,000 Afghans, 1,200 Georgians, 850 ”anti-Putin” Russians and two traveller families (790 people). 5 Irish couples have taken out €400,000 mortgages to buy the remaining five 2-bed apartments on the ground floor.
Expect the council to get sued for not providing enough local services (shops, pubs, schools, mosques, playgrounds etc).
How about they build a new, modernised town, literally fucking ANYWHERE ELSE in the entire country, except dublin.
Christ almighty, the misery seekers are out in force reacting to this.
For years every second post on this sub has been about not enough houses being built. Finally something like this is announced and straight away its:
“The name is shite”
“It’s near clondalkin, ew”
“What if it turns out to be like other social housing projects”
It’s fucking housing which we badly need, on an existing rail link and beside the canal which will be a nice feature for the residents.
You can’t win with some people.
That’s criminally few units in an area that size.
Same mistakes all over again.
For this well connected area 10-ish storeys would be appropriate. (8-15 general range, with the odd taller building)
Another half-arsed effort that will lead to more sprawl, more emissions, more urban wasteland with inevitable problems of crime and anti-social behaviour, more profits for vulture companies but nothing done to make houses affordable – if it ever gets built at all.
Yes, we need more housing but it needs to be intelligently planned and executed. You know what you call it when you keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result…
Yeah…last one they did was called Adamstown….still waiting on some of the facilities to be completed a generation later.
Wish they’d throw a tram down that arterial road that goes down to the Clonalkin foothill train. But that’s me playing too much cities skylines 😅
Great but its a housing estate in the middle of 20 other housing estates in Dublin.
I hope there a lot of happy private equity firms who are able to rent the town out 💗
There was me thinking adamastown was wished up out of thin air
Anyone wanna trade dublin for the north?
100 years down the line people won’t be living in Ireland anymore. The whole island will just be called Dublin.
Give me a fucking break with all this urban sprawl bollocks
Ballymun 2?
To put the size of this into context, Adamstown has a population of 3000 people
Looks good