The government split the difference and it’s now 25%. Looks like the farmers won out going only 3% above what they wanted while the greens had to go down 5%.
Greens won’t be happy
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Have they a plan in place for farmers to transition, or will they just expect them to be happy with losing their livelihoods. The folks in Netherlands aren’t too happy about that at the moment. Where is the pressure for the worst culprits ? Start there.
There’ll be a lot of anger about this either way.
Greens (the old ones and all the new lefty ones) won’t be happy, but I think large farmer protests are inevitable. Probably Europe wide.
The Greens, as predicted, saw their emissions target cut by 17%, talked about collapsing the Government, and then decided that the €4.7m they’d collectively lose in salaries if the Dáil ended early meant the reduced target wasn’t so bad after all.
Spoofers.
Pie in the sky stuff. Can’t wait for farmers to overstock to negate the percentage and there hasn’t been any steps at all announced as to how this gets done.
If the greens are so upset by this maybe they can include in their plan retraining and viable alternatives to farmers that they expect to cull their livelihoods.
I’m all for any reduction in the carbon footprint but farmers have been literally encouraged by successive governments to increase their cattle only for the government to now turn around and say cull them?
Can someone tell me how this will be measured? Like how will individual farmers be held accountable? Do we measure their CO2 output every year or what?
I’m so confused by this, agriculture has the lowest commitment at 25% but the biggest complaints. Transport is 50%, commercial building 45%, electricity 75%
Election incoming. I can see FF country TD’s rebelling and definitely a withdrawal of support from independents.
Question for everyone here. Why shouldn’t this apply to other industries? Shipping, airlines, manufacturing?
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Shouldn’t be targeting agriculture. How about tye government invests in public transport , electrify the rail network. Clean buses. Make cities and towns more livable, less car traffic. Move away from our 75% dependency on gas for electricity. Knowing the history of these types of measures this will probably result in higher food prices for “Climate” reasons. Remember governments do very little unless it benefits their mates in the corporate world or their own back pockets. Tackle agriculture last ..on a side note. We need to decimate the greens out of existence in the next election. Ensure they don’t step foot in the Dail ever again.
Why do the rest of have to do more to give farmers free reign?
And now sinn Fein is gonna take some farmers votes as they refuse to set a emmisions target for farming (pretty smart have to say)
Genuinely curious how they are going to work this? Will they give farmers money to get out of dairy and beef? Or will be it be a sort of quota system but for animals and fertiliser. Quota system would be my guess. I can see getting farming getting more intensive and I don’t like what comes with that.
No one’s happy here. Too high in the eyes of the IFA, FG and FF, and too low for the greens, and the people who voted for them.
But more data centers on the way it’s over for the little guy
Meanwhile, there is a surge in Brazilian beef imports to the EU:
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Farmers wanted 22% emissions reductions. Greens wanted 30%.
The government split the difference and it’s now 25%. Looks like the farmers won out going only 3% above what they wanted while the greens had to go down 5%.
Greens won’t be happy
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Have they a plan in place for farmers to transition, or will they just expect them to be happy with losing their livelihoods. The folks in Netherlands aren’t too happy about that at the moment. Where is the pressure for the worst culprits ? Start there.
There’ll be a lot of anger about this either way.
Greens (the old ones and all the new lefty ones) won’t be happy, but I think large farmer protests are inevitable. Probably Europe wide.
The Greens, as predicted, saw their emissions target cut by 17%, talked about collapsing the Government, and then decided that the €4.7m they’d collectively lose in salaries if the Dáil ended early meant the reduced target wasn’t so bad after all.
Spoofers.
Pie in the sky stuff. Can’t wait for farmers to overstock to negate the percentage and there hasn’t been any steps at all announced as to how this gets done.
If the greens are so upset by this maybe they can include in their plan retraining and viable alternatives to farmers that they expect to cull their livelihoods.
I’m all for any reduction in the carbon footprint but farmers have been literally encouraged by successive governments to increase their cattle only for the government to now turn around and say cull them?
Can someone tell me how this will be measured? Like how will individual farmers be held accountable? Do we measure their CO2 output every year or what?
I’m so confused by this, agriculture has the lowest commitment at 25% but the biggest complaints. Transport is 50%, commercial building 45%, electricity 75%
Election incoming. I can see FF country TD’s rebelling and definitely a withdrawal of support from independents.
Question for everyone here. Why shouldn’t this apply to other industries? Shipping, airlines, manufacturing?
[deleted]
Shouldn’t be targeting agriculture. How about tye government invests in public transport , electrify the rail network. Clean buses. Make cities and towns more livable, less car traffic. Move away from our 75% dependency on gas for electricity. Knowing the history of these types of measures this will probably result in higher food prices for “Climate” reasons. Remember governments do very little unless it benefits their mates in the corporate world or their own back pockets. Tackle agriculture last ..on a side note. We need to decimate the greens out of existence in the next election. Ensure they don’t step foot in the Dail ever again.
Why do the rest of have to do more to give farmers free reign?
And now sinn Fein is gonna take some farmers votes as they refuse to set a emmisions target for farming (pretty smart have to say)
Genuinely curious how they are going to work this? Will they give farmers money to get out of dairy and beef? Or will be it be a sort of quota system but for animals and fertiliser. Quota system would be my guess. I can see getting farming getting more intensive and I don’t like what comes with that.
No one’s happy here. Too high in the eyes of the IFA, FG and FF, and too low for the greens, and the people who voted for them.
But more data centers on the way it’s over for the little guy
Meanwhile, there is a surge in Brazilian beef imports to the EU:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/surge-in-brazilian-beef-exports-in-first-half-of-2022-709966
And also an eight-fold increase in the amount of New Zealand beef being imported into the EU.
The demand is going absolutely nowhere and how anyone can’t see that this will lead to overall higher emissions worldwide is delusional.
The farmers lobby has far too much influence in this country.
Not as bad as it could have been but still terrible