Your link to discussion is really great, and I am glad such discussion is happening. I watched it and forgot the names but there is really good points made in their discussion.
I’m not sure, maybe here (here meaning reddit) the concesus is already decriminalisation?
But for anyone who disagre with that idea, definitely look at the video that OP posted.
As always doing gods work youbigfatmess 🤝
> things are moving too slowly here.
Yes, even the media is still stuck on decriminalization which allows for the war on drugs/people to continue. A win for politicians and their favorite armed criminal gangs.
I am all for decriminalisation of drugs. But, and it is a huge but. The HSE is underfunded and really badly run. To make drugs a purely health matter the issues with the HSE need to be addressed.
Basic starter isn’t really enough.
Decriminalising drugs really only benefits casual drug users.
The difficult part of the process is providing healthcare to users, addressing systemic issues in deprived communities, etc, etc. The debate on r/ireland and other such platforms rarely seems to move beyond the first point.
Is there any real reason to maintain criminalisation? I get drugs are harmful, but why maintain criminalisation?
We don’t make criminals out of alcoholics, would there be a legitimate benefit or appetite to do so? If not, then why should drugs stay this way?
What is there even to discuss, apart from when and how we are going to do this?
Like what are even the arguments for not doing it?
Never happen with politicians that like a good pray before starting a dail session
Dumb question of the day..
Back in the 90s when dublin was crumbling into a heroiny hole we went to a reduced harm strategy, right? Why can you go and get methadone without consequences but it’s still all still illegal?
I am not read up on this to be honest but is it not worth at least trying for a period of time? We have had years of criminalisation of drugs and it clearly hasn’t worked, it’s even made it worse for a lot of people, so why not try something else to see if it can work?
Even starting with Marijuana, like Canada, and see how that fairs out? I don’t take it but I have no problem with anyone who does as it’s not harming me.
I wish our politicians were imaginative
They should legalize. I think they’re afraid of being liable if people die from ODs or of being responsible for rehabing junkies. They’re also afraid that drug consumption will rocket.
The personal responsibility argument trumps all these concerns. If you OD or become a junkie it’s your own fault, not the government’s
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Here’s the link to the recent oireachtas meeting on decriminalising drugs mentioned in the article. Well worth a watch.
https://youtu.be/T0d0PSJnMgI
Your link to discussion is really great, and I am glad such discussion is happening. I watched it and forgot the names but there is really good points made in their discussion.
I’m not sure, maybe here (here meaning reddit) the concesus is already decriminalisation?
But for anyone who disagre with that idea, definitely look at the video that OP posted.
As always doing gods work youbigfatmess 🤝
> things are moving too slowly here.
Yes, even the media is still stuck on decriminalization which allows for the war on drugs/people to continue. A win for politicians and their favorite armed criminal gangs.
I am all for decriminalisation of drugs. But, and it is a huge but. The HSE is underfunded and really badly run. To make drugs a purely health matter the issues with the HSE need to be addressed.
Basic starter isn’t really enough.
Decriminalising drugs really only benefits casual drug users.
The difficult part of the process is providing healthcare to users, addressing systemic issues in deprived communities, etc, etc. The debate on r/ireland and other such platforms rarely seems to move beyond the first point.
Is there any real reason to maintain criminalisation? I get drugs are harmful, but why maintain criminalisation?
We don’t make criminals out of alcoholics, would there be a legitimate benefit or appetite to do so? If not, then why should drugs stay this way?
What is there even to discuss, apart from when and how we are going to do this?
Like what are even the arguments for not doing it?
Never happen with politicians that like a good pray before starting a dail session
Dumb question of the day..
Back in the 90s when dublin was crumbling into a heroiny hole we went to a reduced harm strategy, right? Why can you go and get methadone without consequences but it’s still all still illegal?
I am not read up on this to be honest but is it not worth at least trying for a period of time? We have had years of criminalisation of drugs and it clearly hasn’t worked, it’s even made it worse for a lot of people, so why not try something else to see if it can work?
Even starting with Marijuana, like Canada, and see how that fairs out? I don’t take it but I have no problem with anyone who does as it’s not harming me.
I wish our politicians were imaginative
They should legalize. I think they’re afraid of being liable if people die from ODs or of being responsible for rehabing junkies. They’re also afraid that drug consumption will rocket.
The personal responsibility argument trumps all these concerns. If you OD or become a junkie it’s your own fault, not the government’s
decriminalisation then legalisation
Decriminalized weed, tax it, abolish USC. Job done
The only people who lose out by decriminalisation are drug dealers
Decriminalising drugs a good way to create a full junkie society.