Cannabis report: ‘Black markets don’t do age verification’ – Users make the case for law reform

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  1. Alcohol is age verified yet I was drinking at 14. I want cannabis decriminalised but use good arguments.

  2. We all know it should be reformed also it will and can be implemented by the stroke of a pen this isn’t complex stuff really the government are dragging there heels for a reason, They will not relinquish control to the people it’s that simple we can’t have nice thing’s and if cannabis is legal in Ireland the government will lose control and they can’t have it be that way,

    The trickle down economics of keeping it illegal out way the benifits towards government at the moment the tobacco and alcohol and pharmaceutical companies benefit the prison system benefits the judges solicitors the poor box & garda the test labs benefits, Frank the wank for drug strategy benefits, Our taxes well….
    You guessed it goes towards all to pay or the above.

    Now imagine it’s made legal and regulated and where then would the taxes go and the trickle down economics would go towards hospitals schools back into the community’s and farmer’s and jobs and prospects it would crate for the future would be beneficial for us all but nah government don’t give a flying fuck about our future.

  3. “does not fit the typical profile associated with drug use” certainly loaded language there. Especially when he himself says he is addicted to his use.

    A sort of silly article. Why would a black market ask for anything more than crypto currency.

    The stories are common. And I do agree laws need to change but this is phrased funny at least in my own head.

  4. I’m in a few what’s app chats with weed dealers and to me the biggest argument for legalisation is anytime leaglisation comes up they freak out. “The government just wants to control it themselves” is the usual tinfoil hat excuse. Reality is if it was legal, those lot would have to go out and look a tax paying job like the rest of us. Imagine a world where you don’t have to stand on a street corner in the pissing rain for half an hour to wait on a dealer (sometimes paramilitary or crime gang linked) to sell you an eighth of weak shite. At least in a regulated market I could go to a shop, select if I want something mellow or something strong, and the revenue from that going to a business owner and the taxpayer. I think the only reason the government hasn’t done it is because there are still a fair few pensioners who think smoking a joint is in the same league as injecting heroin and they don’t want to lose their vote

  5. Everything seems so obvious to Ireland Reddit users about why we should go as far as legalising cannabis. How do the same users not understand why this isn’t being pushed. Policy decisions are prioritised on popularity, not evidence. A vast population of this country are anti-drug anything. A lot more bury their head in the sand. Only when these numbers flip in favour will it be considered.

  6. If it were legalised it would be regulated too which would mean users know what they’re getting. The level of THC could be controlled and there would be none of that spice stuff where low quality weed is sprayed with chemicals to enhance the high but actually has an effect similar to taking amphetamines mixed with cannabis.

  7. “Weed is a gateway drug”

    In the sense that the scumbag dealer i buy from always offers me coke when i turn up right?

  8. There is definitely a consensus building on the need for law reform around cannabis in Ireland over the past little while, and this series by the Examiner is adding to it.

    If anybody is somewhat passionate about this, and would like to see the laws change for the better — please reach out to your local politicians, arrange meetings and see what they can do for you. They will help you if you knock on their door and ask them honestly, what are you willing to do for this cause?

  9. The man responsible for prohibition is called Frank Feigan and the board of ‘psychiatrists’ all sorts of non scientific bullshit , under the table deals with Frank feigan and having misinformation spread in newspapers.Just another wannabe mafia set of scumbags in our lovely little nation.all should have their medical licenses revoked ,or whatever the mental health equivalent is.jk.if someone killed them all they would become very famous all over the world.jk.

  10. I’m all for legalisation for use and highly regulated sellers. Would love to see the dealers taken off the streets. I’d even use weed myself, but it’s not such a safe wonder drug as loads of people say it is.

    Up to 64% of individuals who have experienced a first episode of psychosis (FEP) have used cannabis, and 30% of these have a cannabis use disorder. We don’t fully know the health risks of cannabis use long term although heavy use could be easily correlated with cognitive decline. Also there have been several studies to suggest that cannabis has a detrimental effect on young brains. Not to say that it can’t be regulated like alcohol, but to say that it’s a completely harmless organic medical herb is quite frankly, utter bollocks.

    https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-019-1421-7

    Cannabis users with psychosis have higher illness severity and more positive symptoms than non users also

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29356438/

    Cannabis may be a risk factor for earlier onset of schizophrenia

    https://scholar.google.com/scholar_lookup?&title=Comorbid%20substance%20use%20and%20age%20at%20onset%20of%20schizophrenia&journal=Br%20J%20Psychiatry&volume=188&issue=3&pages=237-242&publication_year=2006&author=Barnes%2CTR&author=Mutsatsa%2CSH&author=Hutton%2CSB&author=Watt%2CHC&author=Joyce%2CEM#d=gs_qabs&t=1650327530698&u=%23p%3Dvrkv7NRF_nwJ

    Here’s a review on cognitive decline:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221171/

  11. I suggest using conventions to teach ethics to dealers all around the country. Then there would be no need to legalise it.

  12. Completely different take but I hope it’s never legalised cos the smell of it is absolutely vile. And people who smoke weed in public (particularly at concerts and festivals) don’t give a shit that it smells rank and affects people around them. A million times worse than the smell of cigarettes

  13. Some of the lads I buy off are hoping for legalization so they can go legit.

    These lads want to set up a farm do the whole from farm to spliff kinda thing. There are a number of hurdles if ever legalized in Ireland is it going to be expensive for licensing barring the entry to those who already have the capital to pay the costs. Watches a couple of docu’s about the American markets and it was costing up to 250k to get the license fucking madness another case of give those with money more opportunity’s to make money and fuck everyone else.

  14. It’s gonna be at least 30 a gram when it’s legalised with Irish tax. I’d prefer if people were allowed grow, with no consequences, everyone would know a grower and weed would b cheap

  15. I live in Oregon. I just now went over to the dispensary across the way and said “I’ve got 8 bucks. What do you recommend?” And that, to me, is a great indicator of what legalisation can do. I didn’t have to play it cool.

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