So in 2016, I accidentally joined one Finnish lecture and this was the material used. It was aimed for the refugees. I didn’t know that, I just found it in the library website and it was free so I thought it could be useful.
It basically introduces some people from Finland, Turkey(?), Thailand and Estonia. It’s a little bit stereotypical…
The Kurdish dude works in a pizzeria and his wife stays at home with the kids.
The Thai lady married a Finnish guy and so she is in Finland.
The Estonian lady is a cleaner and lives with her sister.
Wow. This is so not right.
“Minun ammatti on opettaja” -> “Minun ammattiNI on opettaja”
Same error continues through the story. No wonder bad Finnish is all the rage now on media.
If they’re making people sit through such cringe stereotyping they should at least get the grammar correct… Jk but it isn’t the first time I’ve seen a language textbook airing some questionable attitudes, it’s quite strange.
Who the fuck wrote that shit?! That’s just wrong. On so many levels.
Made for non speakers by non speakers!
Cant help but look and think to myself very stereotypical we have here Ibrahim and Nita xD haha
The cringiest I’ve seen in a while.
-did I use the word “cringy” right ?
Ok, they are a bit stereotypical BUT who would wanna hear the crying if there was a kurdi-woman who is married to an finnish woman who is transgender, or a somalian woman who has married a finnish man and converted to christianism…Stereotypes come from something, don’t they?
Good old times😞
Hahaha “Lembi”. That definitely is sort of a typical old person name in Estonia.
If you want people to actually learn and use Finnish, you have to give them useful phrases they can use in their daily lives. The time for grammar comes later. It’s easier to learn difficult things, when you already have a framework.
Best use for this “teaching material” would be to light kiuas in sauna. Not because stereotypics, there is nothing wrong with as long as they aren’t insulting, but because of awful grammar.
Absolutely crazy that official teaching material can use so bad finnish. I understand that finnish is hard language but what point is there to first teach people to speak wrong? It is even harder to re-learn or correct something you have learned wrong the first time.
Absolute idiotic
Might be a bit of topic, but do you guys know about any good Finnish learning resources? I’m trying to learn remotely and would love easy texts like this that I could practice reading and translating
While this is weird to read in 2022, I can definitely see how this was written years back to be helpful without any malicious intent.
Jos te suomalaiset haluatte, että me ulkomaalaiset opimme possessiivisuffikseja, niin käyttäkää ne vihdoinkin puhekielessäkin, goddamnit 😒
This is by no means teaching wrong grammar, it’s the way you speak. And they’re learned later on, anyways, so what’s even the point?
Yeah, cant wait to be a cleaner in Finland, so offensive lol and how are Estonians refugees.
Since when the fuck did googling Finnish neopaganism get me onto Finnish Reddit
Jesus. They didn’t leave it at the stereotypes. They really had to mess up the grammar as well.
To dumbasses who justify stereotyping in this comment section: Even if a seemingly harmless stereotype may have a tentative basis in statistics, the very act of stereotyping is tantamount to the denial of the individual.
In a country like Finland, in which the sovereignty of the individual is *constitutionally* upheld above all else, people should avoid engaging in stereotyping, especially in educational settings.
Minun possessiivisuffiksi!
The book is “Helppoa suomea” and was written in 2016
Finns: I would love foreigners to speak more Finnish
Also Finns: this fucking mamukieli needs to stop, no shortcuts must be given
Mieheni ja poikani Toni?
When I told my barber (who was Kurdish) that I was Turkish, he asked me which kebab shop I was working at lol (am an engineer with a PhD from Finland). Stereotypes are alive and well yo
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So in 2016, I accidentally joined one Finnish lecture and this was the material used. It was aimed for the refugees. I didn’t know that, I just found it in the library website and it was free so I thought it could be useful.
It basically introduces some people from Finland, Turkey(?), Thailand and Estonia. It’s a little bit stereotypical…
The Kurdish dude works in a pizzeria and his wife stays at home with the kids.
The Thai lady married a Finnish guy and so she is in Finland.
The Estonian lady is a cleaner and lives with her sister.
Wow. This is so not right.
“Minun ammatti on opettaja” -> “Minun ammattiNI on opettaja”
Same error continues through the story. No wonder bad Finnish is all the rage now on media.
If they’re making people sit through such cringe stereotyping they should at least get the grammar correct… Jk but it isn’t the first time I’ve seen a language textbook airing some questionable attitudes, it’s quite strange.
Who the fuck wrote that shit?! That’s just wrong. On so many levels.
Made for non speakers by non speakers!
Cant help but look and think to myself very stereotypical we have here Ibrahim and Nita xD haha
Ammattini*
Äidinkieleni*
Töissä*
Vaimoni*
Perheeni*
Vanhempani*
Sisarukseni*
The cringiest I’ve seen in a while.
-did I use the word “cringy” right ?
Ok, they are a bit stereotypical BUT who would wanna hear the crying if there was a kurdi-woman who is married to an finnish woman who is transgender, or a somalian woman who has married a finnish man and converted to christianism…Stereotypes come from something, don’t they?
Good old times😞
Hahaha “Lembi”. That definitely is sort of a typical old person name in Estonia.
If you want people to actually learn and use Finnish, you have to give them useful phrases they can use in their daily lives. The time for grammar comes later. It’s easier to learn difficult things, when you already have a framework.
Best use for this “teaching material” would be to light kiuas in sauna. Not because stereotypics, there is nothing wrong with as long as they aren’t insulting, but because of awful grammar.
Absolutely crazy that official teaching material can use so bad finnish. I understand that finnish is hard language but what point is there to first teach people to speak wrong? It is even harder to re-learn or correct something you have learned wrong the first time.
Absolute idiotic
Might be a bit of topic, but do you guys know about any good Finnish learning resources? I’m trying to learn remotely and would love easy texts like this that I could practice reading and translating
While this is weird to read in 2022, I can definitely see how this was written years back to be helpful without any malicious intent.
Jos te suomalaiset haluatte, että me ulkomaalaiset opimme possessiivisuffikseja, niin käyttäkää ne vihdoinkin puhekielessäkin, goddamnit 😒
This is by no means teaching wrong grammar, it’s the way you speak. And they’re learned later on, anyways, so what’s even the point?
Yeah, cant wait to be a cleaner in Finland, so offensive lol and how are Estonians refugees.
Since when the fuck did googling Finnish neopaganism get me onto Finnish Reddit
Jesus. They didn’t leave it at the stereotypes. They really had to mess up the grammar as well.
To dumbasses who justify stereotyping in this comment section: Even if a seemingly harmless stereotype may have a tentative basis in statistics, the very act of stereotyping is tantamount to the denial of the individual.
In a country like Finland, in which the sovereignty of the individual is *constitutionally* upheld above all else, people should avoid engaging in stereotyping, especially in educational settings.
Minun possessiivisuffiksi!
The book is “Helppoa suomea” and was written in 2016
Finns: I would love foreigners to speak more Finnish
Also Finns: this fucking mamukieli needs to stop, no shortcuts must be given
Mieheni ja poikani Toni?
When I told my barber (who was Kurdish) that I was Turkish, he asked me which kebab shop I was working at lol (am an engineer with a PhD from Finland). Stereotypes are alive and well yo
Ma olen Virolainen ja ma saan kõigest aru