Great news. Hopefully they widen it enough though. 30% to €55,000 would be ideal. Could really help out those who are in the middle.
They could and should also cut incomes below 28,000 to 20% too.
Sounds good to me, fingers crossed!
Now, as someone who’s working, this would make me vote Fine Gael over Sinn Féin. Didn’t think I’d be typing that. But this proposal makes so much more sense than the ludicrous €50 dole top-up posted here a few days ago.
Can the bank go up to 50K like Leo said in his pre election promises.’ It would definetly get FG the votes over SF.
are we talking pre-election implementation or bullshit?
Tax cuts are not the solution to any problems we currently face. Ironically, given the rhetoric online, this is just an attempt to buy votes.
With population increases, climate change, energy changes etc. we will need to build houses, upgrade our infrastructure, retrain people all stuff that needs public money.
The balls on Leo varadkar to cry populism when he dangles a tax cut carrot in people’s faces just before he takes charge again.
“By international standards workers here end up paying the higher 40 per cent rate at relatively low rates of income – on anything above €36,800 for a single person.”
Yeah, there’s a reason for that too, Ireland has the 3rd worst income inequality in the OECD before taxation and transfers. Income in Ireland is highly inequal and so the tax bands need to do an awful lot of work to redistribute.
I hate paying 40% tax so early too, but living in Ireland feels like you’re throwing money into a fire. The solution is to restructure and try to quell the fire, not give people more money/fuel to feed it. At the risk of stretching a conceit past it’s breaking point, perhaps some capital expenditure on a fire extinguisher, or putting some rocks around the fire for safety….
Are they cutting USC too like they said last time? I wouldn’t hold my breath on these promises
I’ve serious concerns about doing this while we’re dealing with inflation. There is a risk that it will extend the high inflation period due to putting more money back in peoples pockets.
The other side of the coin is that this should have been in place for years and it really has to happen sometime. If we can’t do it during a period where the country is flush with cash, then when can we do it.
I hope that when they bring in this measure they leave the lower band as it is for a period and bring more people into the tax net. We’re too dependant on high earners right now and need to bring more people into the tax net if we want to improve services.
How about we abolish the USC first
There comes a point were low taxes means less disposable income than if you were paying high taxes, as there is less centralized system to service needs and then the increase in cost of living saps any benefits (economy of scale).
Lets say because there is no public option available for pre-school as the government doesn’t have enough money to offer it, you have to pay 500 a month for private childcare. But if taxes go up by like 50 euro… You get public pre-school option.
Obviously, a rough point with numbers….but there are plenty of examples… look at american healthcare, who spend far more on private insurance than they would on tax based healthcare in Europe.
what are our current tax bands like compared to other European countries?
Whilst tax cuts are always good, but increasing the amount of pay people take home is only going to make inflation work. This should have been done 2 years ago
While I understand there are people seriously struggling, this will only make things worse during a period of extreme inflation.
The energy companies will be out the following week to say they are putting up the standing charges again.
I don’t want to spend less tax I just want to spend less on housing. Give me that or fuck off
The USC was brought in as part of the down turn… get fucking rid of it… im sick to the balls of hidden taxes
Tax cuts are the only solution here, widen the 20% band down to earnings over 10k and up it to kick in at 40k , 30% from 40 to 100k and the 40% after that, then abolish the USC.
Please, please, please, just stop investors from buying up properties with the sole intent of renting them out at a high profit margin 🙏
Or why not be like the UK and have a rate of say €15k where you go untaxed that helps everyone who isn’t rich.
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Great news. Hopefully they widen it enough though. 30% to €55,000 would be ideal. Could really help out those who are in the middle.
They could and should also cut incomes below 28,000 to 20% too.
Sounds good to me, fingers crossed!
Now, as someone who’s working, this would make me vote Fine Gael over Sinn Féin. Didn’t think I’d be typing that. But this proposal makes so much more sense than the ludicrous €50 dole top-up posted here a few days ago.
Can the bank go up to 50K like Leo said in his pre election promises.’ It would definetly get FG the votes over SF.
are we talking pre-election implementation or bullshit?
Tax cuts are not the solution to any problems we currently face. Ironically, given the rhetoric online, this is just an attempt to buy votes.
With population increases, climate change, energy changes etc. we will need to build houses, upgrade our infrastructure, retrain people all stuff that needs public money.
The balls on Leo varadkar to cry populism when he dangles a tax cut carrot in people’s faces just before he takes charge again.
“By international standards workers here end up paying the higher 40 per cent rate at relatively low rates of income – on anything above €36,800 for a single person.”
Yeah, there’s a reason for that too, Ireland has the 3rd worst income inequality in the OECD before taxation and transfers. Income in Ireland is highly inequal and so the tax bands need to do an awful lot of work to redistribute.
I hate paying 40% tax so early too, but living in Ireland feels like you’re throwing money into a fire. The solution is to restructure and try to quell the fire, not give people more money/fuel to feed it. At the risk of stretching a conceit past it’s breaking point, perhaps some capital expenditure on a fire extinguisher, or putting some rocks around the fire for safety….
Are they cutting USC too like they said last time? I wouldn’t hold my breath on these promises
I’ve serious concerns about doing this while we’re dealing with inflation. There is a risk that it will extend the high inflation period due to putting more money back in peoples pockets.
The other side of the coin is that this should have been in place for years and it really has to happen sometime. If we can’t do it during a period where the country is flush with cash, then when can we do it.
I hope that when they bring in this measure they leave the lower band as it is for a period and bring more people into the tax net. We’re too dependant on high earners right now and need to bring more people into the tax net if we want to improve services.
How about we abolish the USC first
There comes a point were low taxes means less disposable income than if you were paying high taxes, as there is less centralized system to service needs and then the increase in cost of living saps any benefits (economy of scale).
Lets say because there is no public option available for pre-school as the government doesn’t have enough money to offer it, you have to pay 500 a month for private childcare. But if taxes go up by like 50 euro… You get public pre-school option.
Obviously, a rough point with numbers….but there are plenty of examples… look at american healthcare, who spend far more on private insurance than they would on tax based healthcare in Europe.
what are our current tax bands like compared to other European countries?
Whilst tax cuts are always good, but increasing the amount of pay people take home is only going to make inflation work. This should have been done 2 years ago
While I understand there are people seriously struggling, this will only make things worse during a period of extreme inflation.
The energy companies will be out the following week to say they are putting up the standing charges again.
I don’t want to spend less tax I just want to spend less on housing. Give me that or fuck off
The USC was brought in as part of the down turn… get fucking rid of it… im sick to the balls of hidden taxes
Tax cuts are the only solution here, widen the 20% band down to earnings over 10k and up it to kick in at 40k , 30% from 40 to 100k and the 40% after that, then abolish the USC.
Please, please, please, just stop investors from buying up properties with the sole intent of renting them out at a high profit margin 🙏
Or why not be like the UK and have a rate of say €15k where you go untaxed that helps everyone who isn’t rich.
Remove USC charges would be nice…
Disgusting transparent attempt to buy votes.
…so where do I sign up?