How about cracking down on politicians who do not improve earning potential for ordinary people.
>The former chancellor promised to assess university degrees through their drop-out rates, numbers in graduate jobs and salary thresholds – making exceptions for nursing and other courses with high social value.
Tell me nurses are underpaid without telling me nurses are underpaid
It really is a competition for who can double down harder on all the boomer politics that brought us to the sorry state we’re in now. They really think that the issue is that they haven’t yet been conservative *enough*.
Do science degrees improve earning potential ? Other than biochemisty that is ?
This is desperation from a guy who knows he is losing the leadership contest, so he’s doing everything in his power to pander to the worst elements in the Tory membership. It’s actually pathetic to see and he should just do the dignified thing and cut his losses but that would require a sense of self awareness Tories in general do not possess.
So Sunak doesn’t want teachers, scientists and nurses then? Just a few off the top of my head.
Yeah I think 40k of uni debt will take care of that by itself.
It’s time someone put their foot down on the dystopia accelerator.
This is basically about attacking social sciences and other arts degrees, because the last thing politicians need is people skilled in researching the consequences of their terrible decisions.
Lol.. even staring down the barrel at a full on recession…. it is no surprise that Sunak values money over truths, even when the Tories have done more to f%&k the UK’s economy and society than any other Gov’t in living memory..
I don’t understand this. Who are they trying to convince? I mean it’s not like anyone can vote for these clowns?
This will be about closing university courses in the regions and lowering access rates. You can be damn sure it won’t impact the university rates in the South East. Who the fuck did everyone think was going to be doing all these unskilled roles now that FOM has ended??
A lot of tory voters already believe a person is valued by status, power and how much they earn.
I used to be a nurse, I left for a job in finance where I’ll be earning far more than I ever would have as a nurse.
The looks on their faces when I ask them if they really think a job in finance means I’m of more value to society than a nurse is priceless
Oh, please.. curl up and cry yourself to sleep, you repressed fucking cunt.
So, what would be the improvement in earning potential for a degree in “Philosophy, Politics and Economics”, Mr. Sunak?
We are truly living in hell. This piece of shit lives in extreme privilege and is trying to dictate to the rest of us how to live. Fuck you
Watching Sunak debase himself for the membership is kind of horrifying yet you can’t turn away, because what will he say next?
I truly believe he would put on a nappy and roll around on the floor, sucking his thumb and shitting himself if a SPAD told him it would get him 5% extra vote.
Another day, another shortsighted promise that will no doubt cause further harm. I do not understand how these clowns can vow to implement new policy without a general election. If the replacement refuses to try for a mandate from the public, then surely they should be bound by the commitments of the 2019 manifesto? I can’t believe we’ve got 2 years of this. Utterly embarrassing
Sunak is a truly disgusting little man. Every policy he comes out with makes me hate him even more. I have no love for Truss, but I can’t wait for her to beat him and maybe see the smug grin wiped off his slimy face at least momentarily.
But all degrees increase earning potential…that’s what degrees are for. I am unbelievably confused right now
Translation: “Sunak vows to crack down on university degrees that enable people to question the status quo.”
Imagine thinking there’s no point in learning other than to make money.
Looks like he wants to pull out the classic dystopic move of devaluing History/Arts/culture so the party can make general free thinking uneconomical. They also get the added bonus that without a degree these would-be threats have no choice but to fill out the neosurf class and take up many of the low paid jobs.
This sounds a bit concerning to me, not every piece of education has to slot you right into paying taxes. We want a country that has its share of educated thinking minds.
Learning is supposed to be about learning, it’s not a factory line to the workplace.
In the future, the only degree allowed will be in “cyber”
Nothing will change until all the boomers have snuffed it.
Yes , stop doing arts, philosophy and thinking, you will drive a lorry and deliver my caviar quickly! .. my champagne is going flat!
Tories: they know the price of everything & the value of nothing.
I did an engineering degree which has a high earning potential and therefore high value to me. But I also recognise and respect the value that some courses have to mankind in general. I’m sure universities weren’t set up solely to improve the personal wealth of those who take part in the courses. I think people should have the right to spend their money as they see fit, follow their passions and further human understanding of whichever subject they feel most strongly about
Boris Johnson studied “the classics” yet became PM.
It’s almost like it doesn’t fucking matter what degree you do, only who your daddy is and whose balls you tickle at private school.
“I’m going to defund the arts”
No culture. Only money.
My “bullshit degree” helped me get a job at a charity where yeah okay I get paid a lot less than my sister who works in the same job in the private sector, but unlike these pricks I’m making the world a better place. Earnings aren’t important to everyone.
Fuck all those university degrees that allow people to learn for the sake of learning, for the joy of knowledge. Fuck philosophy, history, sociology, fuck film studies, fuck literature. If you ain’t earning, you’re worthless to society. Money is the be all and end all of everything.
Seriously, how did we get HERE.
People need to stop viewing university as a jobs training ground because it never was intended to be that way, and it still doesn’t function like that.
You learn how to do a well paying job on the job, not in a classroom. You go to university to study, and university degrees have been massively undervalued by this ever increasing demand to have a high qualified workforce despite the fact that in many cases the degree involved is irrelevant to a job, and the graduate doesn’t have a clue what they’re doing when they start the job.
Job training is done via apprenticeships, vocational courses and niche training courses. In some cases, just to begin training in a job you need to study the field as a prerequisite (medicine, law etc).
So let’s not target degree subjects purely on the basis that they don’t lead to high paying careers, because most of them don’t even lead to careers. Just having a degree in anything has become the benchmark for most jobs.
This is actually the only thing he’s ever said ever I agree with. Anyone who is against this conceptually doesn’t understand the flaws in the current system.
Humanities degrees are important, I think, but as one of the very few law graduates who actually managed to get a training contract, I definitely think something needs to be done about the law degree bottleneck. You get young people spending thousands upon thousands of pounds on a degree which they think DOES have “earning potential”, but which in reality will give you like a 5% chance of ever actually becoming a lawyer, because there just aren’t the jobs available. It’s a racket. Providers of the legal practice course (now SQE) like BPP earn millions a year from people who all have a dream that BPP **knows** they will never see realised. It’s immoral in my view. The number of places on law undergraduate courses should be capped per year, with the number bearing some relation to the number of training contracts and pupillage spots on offer the previous year.
Well I have a degree in philosophy from a mid tier UK University and I earned 218k this year.
Too many people go to university – when you ask why the country cannot afford free tuition this is the simple reason .
Entry grades are too low for the bottom tier unis and it feels like those people are being ripped off being allowed to go at a certain point vs getting into a different career earlier.
Someone with 2 D’s and an E at a level going to a 150th best university for social studies is being saved from themselves by not making that course available – it’s more a grift by that uni than anything
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How about cracking down on politicians who do not improve earning potential for ordinary people.
>The former chancellor promised to assess university degrees through their drop-out rates, numbers in graduate jobs and salary thresholds – making exceptions for nursing and other courses with high social value.
Tell me nurses are underpaid without telling me nurses are underpaid
It really is a competition for who can double down harder on all the boomer politics that brought us to the sorry state we’re in now. They really think that the issue is that they haven’t yet been conservative *enough*.
Do science degrees improve earning potential ? Other than biochemisty that is ?
This is desperation from a guy who knows he is losing the leadership contest, so he’s doing everything in his power to pander to the worst elements in the Tory membership. It’s actually pathetic to see and he should just do the dignified thing and cut his losses but that would require a sense of self awareness Tories in general do not possess.
So Sunak doesn’t want teachers, scientists and nurses then? Just a few off the top of my head.
Yeah I think 40k of uni debt will take care of that by itself.
It’s time someone put their foot down on the dystopia accelerator.
This is basically about attacking social sciences and other arts degrees, because the last thing politicians need is people skilled in researching the consequences of their terrible decisions.
Lol.. even staring down the barrel at a full on recession…. it is no surprise that Sunak values money over truths, even when the Tories have done more to f%&k the UK’s economy and society than any other Gov’t in living memory..
I don’t understand this. Who are they trying to convince? I mean it’s not like anyone can vote for these clowns?
This will be about closing university courses in the regions and lowering access rates. You can be damn sure it won’t impact the university rates in the South East. Who the fuck did everyone think was going to be doing all these unskilled roles now that FOM has ended??
A lot of tory voters already believe a person is valued by status, power and how much they earn.
I used to be a nurse, I left for a job in finance where I’ll be earning far more than I ever would have as a nurse.
The looks on their faces when I ask them if they really think a job in finance means I’m of more value to society than a nurse is priceless
Oh, please.. curl up and cry yourself to sleep, you repressed fucking cunt.
So, what would be the improvement in earning potential for a degree in “Philosophy, Politics and Economics”, Mr. Sunak?
We are truly living in hell. This piece of shit lives in extreme privilege and is trying to dictate to the rest of us how to live. Fuck you
Watching Sunak debase himself for the membership is kind of horrifying yet you can’t turn away, because what will he say next?
I truly believe he would put on a nappy and roll around on the floor, sucking his thumb and shitting himself if a SPAD told him it would get him 5% extra vote.
Another day, another shortsighted promise that will no doubt cause further harm. I do not understand how these clowns can vow to implement new policy without a general election. If the replacement refuses to try for a mandate from the public, then surely they should be bound by the commitments of the 2019 manifesto? I can’t believe we’ve got 2 years of this. Utterly embarrassing
Sunak is a truly disgusting little man. Every policy he comes out with makes me hate him even more. I have no love for Truss, but I can’t wait for her to beat him and maybe see the smug grin wiped off his slimy face at least momentarily.
But all degrees increase earning potential…that’s what degrees are for. I am unbelievably confused right now
Translation: “Sunak vows to crack down on university degrees that enable people to question the status quo.”
Imagine thinking there’s no point in learning other than to make money.
Looks like he wants to pull out the classic dystopic move of devaluing History/Arts/culture so the party can make general free thinking uneconomical. They also get the added bonus that without a degree these would-be threats have no choice but to fill out the neosurf class and take up many of the low paid jobs.
This sounds a bit concerning to me, not every piece of education has to slot you right into paying taxes. We want a country that has its share of educated thinking minds.
Learning is supposed to be about learning, it’s not a factory line to the workplace.
In the future, the only degree allowed will be in “cyber”
Nothing will change until all the boomers have snuffed it.
Yes , stop doing arts, philosophy and thinking, you will drive a lorry and deliver my caviar quickly! .. my champagne is going flat!
Tories: they know the price of everything & the value of nothing.
I did an engineering degree which has a high earning potential and therefore high value to me. But I also recognise and respect the value that some courses have to mankind in general. I’m sure universities weren’t set up solely to improve the personal wealth of those who take part in the courses. I think people should have the right to spend their money as they see fit, follow their passions and further human understanding of whichever subject they feel most strongly about
Boris Johnson studied “the classics” yet became PM.
It’s almost like it doesn’t fucking matter what degree you do, only who your daddy is and whose balls you tickle at private school.
“I’m going to defund the arts”
No culture. Only money.
My “bullshit degree” helped me get a job at a charity where yeah okay I get paid a lot less than my sister who works in the same job in the private sector, but unlike these pricks I’m making the world a better place. Earnings aren’t important to everyone.
Fuck all those university degrees that allow people to learn for the sake of learning, for the joy of knowledge. Fuck philosophy, history, sociology, fuck film studies, fuck literature. If you ain’t earning, you’re worthless to society. Money is the be all and end all of everything.
Seriously, how did we get HERE.
People need to stop viewing university as a jobs training ground because it never was intended to be that way, and it still doesn’t function like that.
You learn how to do a well paying job on the job, not in a classroom. You go to university to study, and university degrees have been massively undervalued by this ever increasing demand to have a high qualified workforce despite the fact that in many cases the degree involved is irrelevant to a job, and the graduate doesn’t have a clue what they’re doing when they start the job.
Job training is done via apprenticeships, vocational courses and niche training courses. In some cases, just to begin training in a job you need to study the field as a prerequisite (medicine, law etc).
So let’s not target degree subjects purely on the basis that they don’t lead to high paying careers, because most of them don’t even lead to careers. Just having a degree in anything has become the benchmark for most jobs.
This is actually the only thing he’s ever said ever I agree with. Anyone who is against this conceptually doesn’t understand the flaws in the current system.
Humanities degrees are important, I think, but as one of the very few law graduates who actually managed to get a training contract, I definitely think something needs to be done about the law degree bottleneck. You get young people spending thousands upon thousands of pounds on a degree which they think DOES have “earning potential”, but which in reality will give you like a 5% chance of ever actually becoming a lawyer, because there just aren’t the jobs available. It’s a racket. Providers of the legal practice course (now SQE) like BPP earn millions a year from people who all have a dream that BPP **knows** they will never see realised. It’s immoral in my view. The number of places on law undergraduate courses should be capped per year, with the number bearing some relation to the number of training contracts and pupillage spots on offer the previous year.
Well I have a degree in philosophy from a mid tier UK University and I earned 218k this year.
Too many people go to university – when you ask why the country cannot afford free tuition this is the simple reason .
Entry grades are too low for the bottom tier unis and it feels like those people are being ripped off being allowed to go at a certain point vs getting into a different career earlier.
Someone with 2 D’s and an E at a level going to a 150th best university for social studies is being saved from themselves by not making that course available – it’s more a grift by that uni than anything