“Fought to the very end” – poor kid was out of the fight for weeks according to the actual medical doctors.
Finally at peace. RIP.
Poor kid probably died months ago tbh. There wasn’t really much for the parents to fight for.
He was dead weeks ago and his parents wasted massive amounts of NHS/legal time and money
He didn’t deserve his final weeks of existence being turned into a circus, thank fuck it’s over
I think the media needs to get better at describing the actual medical reality of these childrens’ condition – constantly putting forward the parents’ views unchallenged allows these cultish Facebook armies to flourish.
At least he can be properly laid to rest now and the medical staff no longer have to deal with his mother.
I’m surprised he lasted two hours off life support to be honest.
see you guys in another 2 years when the media push another heartwrenching story of mothers’ desperate trying to save their sick(already dead) kids for views and profit
Kid was dead months ago. The parents wasted time and money that could have been spent on people who needed it pumping air into the lungs of their child’s corpse
Poor sod, at least it’s over now and hopefully his mum will find peace. Sadly though, I think she’ll continue the drama and go after the doctors/ NHS / courts that wouldn’t give in to her
It might seem cruel to say, but the mother saying that “he fought until the end” is actually quite harmful. This makes it sound like Archie had some chance, and unfortunately he didn’t, but now the lunatics who pushed his mother all the way will see this as a martyrdom
And now the press, the Christian groups and everyone else will just fuck off and leave the family to deal with everything themselves. Just as they have done in past cases
Utterly tragic. But what a huge waste of money this has been. Now the hospital bed is available for someone who can be saved
Thank fuck for that. I was sick of giving his bitch mother clicks and sick of seeing that depressing picture of the poor lad.
May he be reborn into a better life and may his mother reap the karma she has sown.
Wonder when the book deal will be announced for his mother?
Now do an inquest and investigate his weirdo mother
This is a misleading headline. Archie died months ago. Sadly, his brain was literally decomposing. His body has just been allowed to officially catch up to him. Hopefully he can now be allowed to rest, as he clearly wanted to. Poor guy. RIP Archie.
Finally, thankfully! Now arrest that psycho mother of his
What an undignified shit show this was. This needs some investigations into the mother and her Facebook Army of lunatics. There can be no repetition of this madness.
Here is the family themselves announcing his death today.
I have to say obviously this is a traumatic time, but to say his passing was ‘barbaric’ is one last kick in the teeth to the medical professionals who worked hard to appease this family and give that boy as much dignity as possible.
In the article, his mum says she’ll need therapy. Probably the only accurate thing she has said throughout all of this. I hope she gets it and allows Archie to rest in peace now.
Specialists had believed Archie to be dead for months by this point. The parents refused to let doctors perform a brain-stem test until ordered to by the courts.
This whole long, drawn out saga has been an absolute disgrace from start to finish. From right-wing Christian-fanatic legal counsel, ignoring the words and advice of specialists in their fields, mental anguish on doctors and nurses having to keep a corpse “alive” and the sheer drain on NHS resources.
I can already see what’s going to happen next: memorabilia (T-shirts, mugs, the like) will be sold, perhaps a “trust” set up in Archie’s name, another court case raised against the doctors and nurses who were treating him for “neglect”.
Rather than finally face and deal with her grief the mother will do a media tour (This Morning, Loose Women and the like) to try and continue to stoke the fires and drum up further support against the “outrageous” decisions made for her child (whom, again, had been believed brain-dead for months).
Also, shame on Sky for this headline and pandering to the laymen views of his mother over what medical professionals have been saying.
She’s a horribly selfish human being, who rather than give her son the dignity to pass away in peace and surrounded by his family, extended his life artificially (as he was already brain dead) out of selfishness and because she didn’t want to be judge or perceived as a bad mother. She also lied about a made up challenge on TikTok which does not exist, rather than admit that yes, she failed as a parent because she didn’t see the signs of her own son’s depression and put in place measures to prevent all of this by seeking treatment and help for him.
She was neglectful and I hope this all get uncovered in the investigation on her son’s death. She also wasted thousands of pounds and vital bed-space that could have been used for someone else just to keep a body warm and “alive” and get attention from the media. It is disgusting.
I am so harsh in passing judgement over this, because even though I didn’t lose a son like this, I did have to make the decision alongside my siblings to switch off my Mum’s life support back in February 2019.
My Mum had Grade IV colorectal cancer and her colon burst, expelling all its contents into her abdominal cavity. We had to make the choice to have allow her to undergo life-saving surgery to clean her abdominal cavity, remove the colon and create a colostomy on top of her having metastatic cancer all over her body, mostly in her bones and with her liver being 90% riddled by cancer. On top of that she developed organ failure and had an infection following surgery. We tried everything in the ITU to reverse things, to give her and her body more time. We even went as far as putting her in an ECMO machine as a last resort. Nothing worked, she wasn’t improving at all and the doctors got us together to tell us that we needed to let her go.
I will always feel extremely guilty for this, but I initially objected and asked if we could try more time with the ECMO to try and reverse this. You know what the doctors told me? That she would have to be heavily sedated to even keep living, as she would be in unbearable pain 24/7 and that pain would pretty much drive her to madness. That she would have to pretty much live in a hospital, with no quality of life. We removed her life support and only kept her sedation. Even then, she breathed on her own for over 12 hours before passing away. We did this decision with a heavy heart, because we adored our Mum and she was the brightest, loveliest human being you could meet and who made our family whole, and her passing broke us. But if its any consolation, we now know that she’s in peace and didn’t suffer, but rather was asleep when she passed.
I can see from the comments there is still a lot of misunderstanding about this case. I agree with the commenters that said the media needs to get better on how they report on these types of events.
The video is heartbreaking. Unimaginable grief at the loss of a child.
There seemed to be a level of delusion and denial from the family for months about Archie’s true condition and goodness knows how the Christian groups fuelled it.
Of course no one wants to give up on their child, but ultimately you have to confront the medical reality, even though it may not be what you want to hear.
I hope an inquest finds the truth about the circumstances surrounding Archie’s death and may his poor soul rest in peace.
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I feel sad for the family that Archie has finally been allowed to move on to the next thing.
However.
This media circus has left a bad taste in my mouth. I can empathise with a mother fighting for their child. But I find it difficult to empathise with someone who constantly lashed out and blamed others, especially the ones trying to help. The odd occasional mean word I can understand, but this was full on conspiracy accusations. Reading their background and the events, I find it difficult not to judge the mother so instead I shall focus only on the fact that the little boy is not suffering any longer and that the NHS staff can also move on.
How selfish to turn your child’s life into a media circus and donation milking.
I love my kids more than life and it’s sickening to think about being in this situation at all but I think the only clear and loving answer here is to let go. If the doctors are telling you your child is gone, listen. You don’t know better than doctors. You’re not going to be the first person to somehow reverse death.
The Mum needs investigating for abuse and penalised for wasting NHS resources.
Copying my comment from another thread. Primarily on how everyone keeps using the words “fight” and “fighter”:
The idea of “fighting” in the face of death is extremely naive and shows how misguided societal views towards death are.
People don’t fight cancer. People don’t fight illness. People get sick and sometimes they live and sometimes they die. There’s this weird idea that there’s any kind of honour in being in denial. Death is utterly uninterested in your feelings towards it. It comes for everyone.
I’m not talking about survival scenarios whereby you can “fight through”. I’m talking about illness and disease. People don’t die from illness because they’re not fighters. They die because they got ill. That’s it.
This poor boy most likely hung himself. No one will discuss the fact that the boy had diagnosed anxiety and she said during an interview “I thought he was faking to get out of school”. See below if you want proof.
We have a media and a nation of morons lining up to encourage this poor woman’s grief and guilt play out in public.
Someone should bill the Christian Legal Centre for all the wasted hours of NHS resources. Fucking god bothering ambulance chasers.
This is the mother that refused to allow further diagnostic scans (MRIs etc) to confirm the brainstem death once that became clear, yeah?
Take this as just ‘someone on Reddit’, but I work in mental health in Essex and know a person who works in Safeguarding in the Southend area. There were concerns about neglect and around the boy suffering from bullying and low mood, but mother made excuses and denied any additional support was needed. There is no evidence from any of his internet usage that there was anything related to any ‘online challenges’ and it is likely that the mother simply did help him to get the help he needed to address his mental health.
I hope that if the above is true, that this is brought into the public light as mother is clearly wanting the full case to be discussed publicly, so therefore a full, transparent dialogue is needed as she is being factually inaccurate at best, slanderous and libellous at worst and that will directly impact on patient care.
Didn’t he die back in april when he commited suicide?
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“Fought to the very end” – poor kid was out of the fight for weeks according to the actual medical doctors.
Finally at peace. RIP.
Poor kid probably died months ago tbh. There wasn’t really much for the parents to fight for.
He was dead weeks ago and his parents wasted massive amounts of NHS/legal time and money
He didn’t deserve his final weeks of existence being turned into a circus, thank fuck it’s over
I think the media needs to get better at describing the actual medical reality of these childrens’ condition – constantly putting forward the parents’ views unchallenged allows these cultish Facebook armies to flourish.
At least he can be properly laid to rest now and the medical staff no longer have to deal with his mother.
I’m surprised he lasted two hours off life support to be honest.
This may be in poor taste but
https://youtu.be/YrkS1ldGpn4?t=36
see you guys in another 2 years when the media push another heartwrenching story of mothers’ desperate trying to save their sick(already dead) kids for views and profit
Kid was dead months ago. The parents wasted time and money that could have been spent on people who needed it pumping air into the lungs of their child’s corpse
Poor sod, at least it’s over now and hopefully his mum will find peace. Sadly though, I think she’ll continue the drama and go after the doctors/ NHS / courts that wouldn’t give in to her
It might seem cruel to say, but the mother saying that “he fought until the end” is actually quite harmful. This makes it sound like Archie had some chance, and unfortunately he didn’t, but now the lunatics who pushed his mother all the way will see this as a martyrdom
And now the press, the Christian groups and everyone else will just fuck off and leave the family to deal with everything themselves. Just as they have done in past cases
Utterly tragic. But what a huge waste of money this has been. Now the hospital bed is available for someone who can be saved
Thank fuck for that. I was sick of giving his bitch mother clicks and sick of seeing that depressing picture of the poor lad.
May he be reborn into a better life and may his mother reap the karma she has sown.
Wonder when the book deal will be announced for his mother?
Now do an inquest and investigate his weirdo mother
This is a misleading headline. Archie died months ago. Sadly, his brain was literally decomposing. His body has just been allowed to officially catch up to him. Hopefully he can now be allowed to rest, as he clearly wanted to. Poor guy. RIP Archie.
Finally, thankfully! Now arrest that psycho mother of his
What an undignified shit show this was. This needs some investigations into the mother and her Facebook Army of lunatics. There can be no repetition of this madness.
https://mobile.twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1555902522266624000
Here is the family themselves announcing his death today.
I have to say obviously this is a traumatic time, but to say his passing was ‘barbaric’ is one last kick in the teeth to the medical professionals who worked hard to appease this family and give that boy as much dignity as possible.
In the article, his mum says she’ll need therapy. Probably the only accurate thing she has said throughout all of this. I hope she gets it and allows Archie to rest in peace now.
Specialists had believed Archie to be dead for months by this point. The parents refused to let doctors perform a brain-stem test until ordered to by the courts.
This whole long, drawn out saga has been an absolute disgrace from start to finish. From right-wing Christian-fanatic legal counsel, ignoring the words and advice of specialists in their fields, mental anguish on doctors and nurses having to keep a corpse “alive” and the sheer drain on NHS resources.
I can already see what’s going to happen next: memorabilia (T-shirts, mugs, the like) will be sold, perhaps a “trust” set up in Archie’s name, another court case raised against the doctors and nurses who were treating him for “neglect”.
Rather than finally face and deal with her grief the mother will do a media tour (This Morning, Loose Women and the like) to try and continue to stoke the fires and drum up further support against the “outrageous” decisions made for her child (whom, again, had been believed brain-dead for months).
Also, shame on Sky for this headline and pandering to the laymen views of his mother over what medical professionals have been saying.
She’s a horribly selfish human being, who rather than give her son the dignity to pass away in peace and surrounded by his family, extended his life artificially (as he was already brain dead) out of selfishness and because she didn’t want to be judge or perceived as a bad mother. She also lied about a made up challenge on TikTok which does not exist, rather than admit that yes, she failed as a parent because she didn’t see the signs of her own son’s depression and put in place measures to prevent all of this by seeking treatment and help for him.
She was neglectful and I hope this all get uncovered in the investigation on her son’s death. She also wasted thousands of pounds and vital bed-space that could have been used for someone else just to keep a body warm and “alive” and get attention from the media. It is disgusting.
I am so harsh in passing judgement over this, because even though I didn’t lose a son like this, I did have to make the decision alongside my siblings to switch off my Mum’s life support back in February 2019.
My Mum had Grade IV colorectal cancer and her colon burst, expelling all its contents into her abdominal cavity. We had to make the choice to have allow her to undergo life-saving surgery to clean her abdominal cavity, remove the colon and create a colostomy on top of her having metastatic cancer all over her body, mostly in her bones and with her liver being 90% riddled by cancer. On top of that she developed organ failure and had an infection following surgery. We tried everything in the ITU to reverse things, to give her and her body more time. We even went as far as putting her in an ECMO machine as a last resort. Nothing worked, she wasn’t improving at all and the doctors got us together to tell us that we needed to let her go.
I will always feel extremely guilty for this, but I initially objected and asked if we could try more time with the ECMO to try and reverse this. You know what the doctors told me? That she would have to be heavily sedated to even keep living, as she would be in unbearable pain 24/7 and that pain would pretty much drive her to madness. That she would have to pretty much live in a hospital, with no quality of life. We removed her life support and only kept her sedation. Even then, she breathed on her own for over 12 hours before passing away. We did this decision with a heavy heart, because we adored our Mum and she was the brightest, loveliest human being you could meet and who made our family whole, and her passing broke us. But if its any consolation, we now know that she’s in peace and didn’t suffer, but rather was asleep when she passed.
I can see from the comments there is still a lot of misunderstanding about this case. I agree with the commenters that said the media needs to get better on how they report on these types of events.
The video is heartbreaking. Unimaginable grief at the loss of a child.
There seemed to be a level of delusion and denial from the family for months about Archie’s true condition and goodness knows how the Christian groups fuelled it.
Of course no one wants to give up on their child, but ultimately you have to confront the medical reality, even though it may not be what you want to hear.
I hope an inquest finds the truth about the circumstances surrounding Archie’s death and may his poor soul rest in peace.
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I feel sad for the family that Archie has finally been allowed to move on to the next thing.
However.
This media circus has left a bad taste in my mouth. I can empathise with a mother fighting for their child. But I find it difficult to empathise with someone who constantly lashed out and blamed others, especially the ones trying to help. The odd occasional mean word I can understand, but this was full on conspiracy accusations. Reading their background and the events, I find it difficult not to judge the mother so instead I shall focus only on the fact that the little boy is not suffering any longer and that the NHS staff can also move on.
How selfish to turn your child’s life into a media circus and donation milking.
I love my kids more than life and it’s sickening to think about being in this situation at all but I think the only clear and loving answer here is to let go. If the doctors are telling you your child is gone, listen. You don’t know better than doctors. You’re not going to be the first person to somehow reverse death.
The Mum needs investigating for abuse and penalised for wasting NHS resources.
Copying my comment from another thread. Primarily on how everyone keeps using the words “fight” and “fighter”:
The idea of “fighting” in the face of death is extremely naive and shows how misguided societal views towards death are.
People don’t fight cancer. People don’t fight illness. People get sick and sometimes they live and sometimes they die. There’s this weird idea that there’s any kind of honour in being in denial. Death is utterly uninterested in your feelings towards it. It comes for everyone.
I’m not talking about survival scenarios whereby you can “fight through”. I’m talking about illness and disease. People don’t die from illness because they’re not fighters. They die because they got ill. That’s it.
This poor boy most likely hung himself. No one will discuss the fact that the boy had diagnosed anxiety and she said during an interview “I thought he was faking to get out of school”. See below if you want proof.
https://youtu.be/9lLRk5_34tw
We have a media and a nation of morons lining up to encourage this poor woman’s grief and guilt play out in public.
Someone should bill the Christian Legal Centre for all the wasted hours of NHS resources. Fucking god bothering ambulance chasers.
This is the mother that refused to allow further diagnostic scans (MRIs etc) to confirm the brainstem death once that became clear, yeah?
Take this as just ‘someone on Reddit’, but I work in mental health in Essex and know a person who works in Safeguarding in the Southend area. There were concerns about neglect and around the boy suffering from bullying and low mood, but mother made excuses and denied any additional support was needed. There is no evidence from any of his internet usage that there was anything related to any ‘online challenges’ and it is likely that the mother simply did help him to get the help he needed to address his mental health.
I hope that if the above is true, that this is brought into the public light as mother is clearly wanting the full case to be discussed publicly, so therefore a full, transparent dialogue is needed as she is being factually inaccurate at best, slanderous and libellous at worst and that will directly impact on patient care.
Didn’t he die back in april when he commited suicide?