Perhaps there is nuance to the story that I am missing but to beat up people of a given nationality is not to be encouraged regardless how terrible the actions of their country or its leaders. Perhaps South Africa persecutes _all_ whites in their society for benefiting from apartheid? Perhaps America persecutes _all_ blacks due to believing they perpetrate crime? Clearly these are bad policies. A person should be judged for their own actions not the actions of their country members or even their family. Collective punishment even if effective is not an ethically justified policy. Ends do not justify means.
Edit1: If you disagree and instead believe beating up people for being a certain nationality is fine please explain why you believe this and how your belief differs from racism, etc. thank you!
Edit2: posed reply to message below but mods removed it and have not told me why so added it here:
I did read the article. It says:
> The cause of the dispute was supposed to be the divergent views on Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine.
> Rybar’ claims that a young couple from the south of Russia was the victim of the assault on July 13 at the Quattro Beach Hotel. Probably, the attacker was a group of 4 Poles who attacked a young man in the restaurant during the day. ‘Rybar’ highlights that the hotel security and service personnel silently observed what was happening and did not intervene, despite the screams and pleas of the battered wife, who tried to break up the fight on her own.
Perhaps a single newly wed Russian male started a fight with four Polish males for supporting Ukraine? Rather dumb do this is but perhaps he was big and the Poles were small. Perhaps he was crazy or some thing. It happens.
Perhaps the opposite happened and the Russian was challenged for his beliefs about the actions his country and when he gave his brainwashed nationalist answers he got beat up for by the four Polish males?
Which do you think is more likely?
If someone says they believe in some God different from yours or disbelieve in God entirely that is no reason to beat them up is it? Sure you can do it but how does it look to the world that you do it? You do not teach your children to do this do you?
Yes the Poles were reported to be “friendly” at first and that in itself is bit suspect. Why during this time of war would Polish tourists be friendly to Russian tourists? You do not find this odd? Possibly they there genuinely friendly. Possibly they were “friendly” to create a pretext for a fight? When four men of some nation that has reason to hate your nation _act_ friendly towards you in a foreign country which explanation is more likely?
I am not pointing fingers. This whole incident just looks bad. I would not be proud of have involvement on either side of it. Beating up people for their beliefs, throwing them in jail, etc is what seems to happen in Russia and civilized people should not do it.
This story is almost certainly fake and it’s been doing rounds EVERYWHERE about two weeks ago.
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Brawo Polska!
Niech żyje Polska
Slava Ukraini!
Perhaps there is nuance to the story that I am missing but to beat up people of a given nationality is not to be encouraged regardless how terrible the actions of their country or its leaders. Perhaps South Africa persecutes _all_ whites in their society for benefiting from apartheid? Perhaps America persecutes _all_ blacks due to believing they perpetrate crime? Clearly these are bad policies. A person should be judged for their own actions not the actions of their country members or even their family. Collective punishment even if effective is not an ethically justified policy. Ends do not justify means.
Edit1: If you disagree and instead believe beating up people for being a certain nationality is fine please explain why you believe this and how your belief differs from racism, etc. thank you!
Edit2: posed reply to message below but mods removed it and have not told me why so added it here:
I did read the article. It says:
> The cause of the dispute was supposed to be the divergent views on Russia’s aggression towards Ukraine.
> Rybar’ claims that a young couple from the south of Russia was the victim of the assault on July 13 at the Quattro Beach Hotel. Probably, the attacker was a group of 4 Poles who attacked a young man in the restaurant during the day. ‘Rybar’ highlights that the hotel security and service personnel silently observed what was happening and did not intervene, despite the screams and pleas of the battered wife, who tried to break up the fight on her own.
Perhaps a single newly wed Russian male started a fight with four Polish males for supporting Ukraine? Rather dumb do this is but perhaps he was big and the Poles were small. Perhaps he was crazy or some thing. It happens.
Perhaps the opposite happened and the Russian was challenged for his beliefs about the actions his country and when he gave his brainwashed nationalist answers he got beat up for by the four Polish males?
Which do you think is more likely?
If someone says they believe in some God different from yours or disbelieve in God entirely that is no reason to beat them up is it? Sure you can do it but how does it look to the world that you do it? You do not teach your children to do this do you?
Yes the Poles were reported to be “friendly” at first and that in itself is bit suspect. Why during this time of war would Polish tourists be friendly to Russian tourists? You do not find this odd? Possibly they there genuinely friendly. Possibly they were “friendly” to create a pretext for a fight? When four men of some nation that has reason to hate your nation _act_ friendly towards you in a foreign country which explanation is more likely?
I am not pointing fingers. This whole incident just looks bad. I would not be proud of have involvement on either side of it. Beating up people for their beliefs, throwing them in jail, etc is what seems to happen in Russia and civilized people should not do it.
This story is almost certainly fake and it’s been doing rounds EVERYWHERE about two weeks ago.
I don’t understand why are you reposting this?