Calls for eviction ban as number of Irish renters forced out of homes doubles in a year

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1. Sounds like a simplistic solution to a complex problem.

   Isn’t there a word for that?

2. How would this work in practice? Say a landlord wants to sell but they’re denied. If there’s an eviction ban, would the tenant need to keep paying rent? They can’t be evicted.

   What if a major appliance or heating breaks down in the house? I can’t imagine a landlord running to repair it.

3. So someone renting their house should give it up and let people live there forever then ?

   How does that make sense in a society where someone would be told yeah not your house or decision.

   Like don’t get me wrong having some corporation that build flat complex purely for profit to rent etc, yes they should have more regulations, if your goal is anyone who has a house renting to be told they have no rights to it, that would make people get out of renting for ever.

   As someone said before people speak here sometimes as if if you own a house you should see that as total achievement in life and as good as it gets, and second house or home means your a millionaire that should be reserved for 1% of society, would really make Ireland a kip, if your entire life be summed up as you get one home as biggest thing you could do in life.

   So these opinions should really define between someone owning second house, Vs some corporation owning 100 flats dodging system to make more profits

4. What weird about that Mirror article is they left out the why, which was mainly landlord selling up

5. The whole country needs to be made a rent pressure zone.

   Thats something easy they can do straight away.

6. What this would mean is that it would create a category of sales which were entirely landlord to landlord.

   House up for sale, you like the look of it, you can afford it – sorry it’s only for sale to a landlord because the people living there are there forever.

7. This is an absolutely fantastic idea.

   If the aim is to drive the remaining small landlords out of the market and take these properties out of the rental system.

   What the fuck are Sinn Féin actually _on_ this week? I really hope they’re just floating policies so they can dismiss them based on backlash rather than thinking this and the “give people who refuse to work a 25% pay rise by raising workers’ taxes” are appropriate policies.

8. An eviction ban will make things worse. Landlords will pull out en masse before it gets implemented because they’ll be afraid that they’ll lose control over their property if their tenants refuse to pay rent.

   That’ll be great news for people earning enough to buy these houses when they go on the market. It’ll be terrible news for people who can’t afford to buy because it’ll mean a decrease in rental stock and an increase in demand. In other words, higher rents, more homelessness. And yes, demand will go up. Owner occupied homes occupy fewer people than renter occupied. A 2 bedroom home with 2 couples renting it is likely to be bought by a single person or a couple with 1 or no kids. So converting rental stock to owner occupied stock reduces the overall housing capacity which means

   And for those lucky enough to buy, they’ll be facing a hike in interest rates. Irish interest rates are among the highest in Europe because eviction is so difficult here. Banks cover their losses here by raising interest rates for those who do pay their mortgages. Making it even harder to evict people means even more risk for banks which means even higher interest rates.

9. This is an stupid suggestion born of absolute ignorance.

10. Evictions will probably jump further when our heating bills shoot up again in a few months. I don’t know how anyone is paying the rent they’re asked to pay AND then pay hundreds a month on top of it for gas and electricity. My heart goes out to renters in a situation that seems to just keep getting worse.

11. Its literally nuts. Rent is our of hand even for below average properties and the whole pay as you go with electricity is just crazy.

    Honestly EVERYTHING in Ireland(especially Dublin) is expensive rent, electricity, health insurance/doctors visiting fees, public transport ticket for a poor quality (cost is nuts for a small city with a small population like Dublin compared to other western cities), food, restaurants. The only thing which is cheaper is internet and that’s about all i can think of. The whole country is only designed for rich people and even after you pay the qualityis not great either (healthcare, transport, cities, home builds etc are all of poor quality).This is absolutely insane.

    I can EASILY say that based on my experience Irish people, compared to citizens from other countries (like UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Australia etc.), are just not willing to fight/protest demanding the government and THEIR elected representatives do the right thing and fix the healthcare, infrastructure, out of hand cost of living of EVERYTHING (not just homes and rents) for once and instead they just put up with it to avoid conflict and accept a crappy life by paying London price. Nearly every other EU country including many poor Eastern EU countries have much better quality of universal healthcare (where you don’t have to go private), public infrastructure, clean cities, decent options to rent/buy homes (even if hot zones are expensive so is the quality of life atleast higher) etc.

    If Irish people don’t protest for this madness to stop then no one else will fight their battle and no amount of “i don’t know how people can afford to live in Dublin” diplomatic concerns will result in anything positive.

    Honestly if you are not earning very high bucks living in Dublin atleast is virtually impossible.

    The very Irish answer to everything is to immigrate elsewhere and the cycle in Ireland keeps getting worse and worse. Ireland is a rich country. You dont see British, Australian, Dutch or German citizens immigrate just so that they can have a great life, they do for experience and fun and come back. In ireland people literally immigrate to have a better shot at life and that brings Ireland closer to how third world country people operate (they really have no other option due to insane poverty so they have to immigrate to improve their life as their governmentsare hopeless) but Ireland, inspite of being so called rich western European country ends up being the same for its citizens.

    Its a complete shame and lack of concern by the government AND irish people for their fellow citizens. I blame both as government is a reflection of society in general as they are also Irish and the Irish people for electing such people repeatedly and not protesting.

12. Yeah…. nope. Not a solution to the housing issues.

13. Every time I’ve pointed out that they’re is an ongoing narrative that all landlords are evil and that populist policy which solely favours tenants over landlords, I get downvoted.

    Landlords rights over their properties have been continously eroded including RPZs and extending part IV rights. So they’re getting out. It’s good news for people wanting to buy.

    Better for landlords to sell and put their money into funds that give bigger rates such as a pension.

14. If you ban evictions a bunch of cunts will just refuse to pay rent and then be like “ha, you can’t do fuckin’ nothin’ to me I’m paying nothing”.

    Up taxes for vacant properties and properties being thrown on air bnb.