Q. There is another legend about the Belavezha: that Mikhail Gorbachev was allegedly mad at Boris Yeltsin because Yeltsin first called [then U.S. president] George H. W. Bush to tell him about the concluded agreement, and only then did he inform Gorbachev.
A. I think Gorbachev knows that is not the case. In fact, it all happened practically at the same time. Yeltsin and [then President of Ukraine] Leonid Makarovich Kravchuk told me: “You have a good relationship with Gorbachev, so you should call him and tell him that we have prepared the agreement for signing” (we hadn’t signed it yet then, because we signed it in front of the TV cameras). I said, “Very well, Boris Nikolaevich. And Kravchuk and I decided (though, frankly, I didn’t even ask him) that since you know Bush very well, you should be the one to call him. So I’ll be calling Gorbachev and you will then call President Bush.” And that was the deal […]
And while I was still providing explanations to Gorbachev’s assistants, I could already hear that Yeltsin was talking to Bush. Gorbachev asked me in a very didactic tone: “And have you thought about how the international community will react?” And I responded: “You know, Mikhail Sergeevich, it has reacted nicely. Boris Nikolaevich [Yeltsin] has called Bush, and Bush is treating the news positively, you see?” Then—silence! And since then he has always addressed me in a very formal fashion.…
Lasted for 20 years almost, not bad!
Thanks to Putin and Xi, we are now in a new Cold War and possibly soon in a hot war as well.
Fuck all dictators. Old grey men with shriveled, impotent dicks who believe oppressing other people and conquering other countries make them somehow “tough” and “manly”. Nope. It just makes you Yet Another Asshole in a long line of assholes that history will not remember positively.
Funny that the text is only in Russian lol
Today it would be nice to see if the knocked-out pile of shit is fossil fuels and profit-at-any-cost-capitalism.
It reminds me of Fukuyama`s ‘End Of History’ lol.
Really would have gone a lot better of Yeltsin hadn’t been such an incompetent drunken buffoon. We blame Putin, but Yeltsin is who put Putin in power. Before then he was not well known or popular at all.
I’ve seen plenty of USSR propaganda that is actually friendly towards the US, is there any from US that portrays USSR in the same way?
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Bygone age.
???
What’s the text on the melting body say? I don’t get this.
Imagine if Russia had not slid back to authoritarianism. I want to live on that timeline.
From an [interview](https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/three-men-forest-shushkevich-remembers-the-meeting-ended-the-soviet-union) with Shushkevich, former chairman of soviet Belarus:
Q. There is another legend about the Belavezha: that Mikhail Gorbachev was allegedly mad at Boris Yeltsin because Yeltsin first called [then U.S. president] George H. W. Bush to tell him about the concluded agreement, and only then did he inform Gorbachev.
A. I think Gorbachev knows that is not the case. In fact, it all happened practically at the same time. Yeltsin and [then President of Ukraine] Leonid Makarovich Kravchuk told me: “You have a good relationship with Gorbachev, so you should call him and tell him that we have prepared the agreement for signing” (we hadn’t signed it yet then, because we signed it in front of the TV cameras). I said, “Very well, Boris Nikolaevich. And Kravchuk and I decided (though, frankly, I didn’t even ask him) that since you know Bush very well, you should be the one to call him. So I’ll be calling Gorbachev and you will then call President Bush.” And that was the deal […]
And while I was still providing explanations to Gorbachev’s assistants, I could already hear that Yeltsin was talking to Bush. Gorbachev asked me in a very didactic tone: “And have you thought about how the international community will react?” And I responded: “You know, Mikhail Sergeevich, it has reacted nicely. Boris Nikolaevich [Yeltsin] has called Bush, and Bush is treating the news positively, you see?” Then—silence! And since then he has always addressed me in a very formal fashion.…
Lasted for 20 years almost, not bad!
Thanks to Putin and Xi, we are now in a new Cold War and possibly soon in a hot war as well.
Fuck all dictators. Old grey men with shriveled, impotent dicks who believe oppressing other people and conquering other countries make them somehow “tough” and “manly”. Nope. It just makes you Yet Another Asshole in a long line of assholes that history will not remember positively.
Funny that the text is only in Russian lol
Today it would be nice to see if the knocked-out pile of shit is fossil fuels and profit-at-any-cost-capitalism.
It reminds me of Fukuyama`s ‘End Of History’ lol.
Really would have gone a lot better of Yeltsin hadn’t been such an incompetent drunken buffoon. We blame Putin, but Yeltsin is who put Putin in power. Before then he was not well known or popular at all.
I’ve seen plenty of USSR propaganda that is actually friendly towards the US, is there any from US that portrays USSR in the same way?
When in fact that drunkard was Russia, lol