>Doctors have warned there is “significant risk” in moving him.
I hope the doctors and hospital dig-in and just say NO to the request, this family has caused enough problems for the doctors and nurses for them to be given even the slightest victory.
Ugh. Same script from the ‘Christian’ /vultures as Charlie G.
He can’t be moved. He needs constant medical attention – 17 protocols to keep his body from decaying.
Attempting to move him might be the quickest way to bring this entire situation to its natural conclusion.
What are the odds of this succeeding? Because with what we’ve heard about his state, I wager this hypothetical victory would be hollow since he’d likely be dead before he made it to the hospice at that rate, meaning that we might actually see an end to this shitshow.
Nothing says love and compassion more than your family wanting you to die in transit than a comfortable hospital bed you’re currently in.
There’s an incredibly high risk of that, assuming a hospice would allow the move considering the time and resources to put together a room, put together a care and support package, plus medicines which they probably do not have as it’s unusual for a hospice to take a brain stem dead person, or would rather allocate to people still somewhat conscious of stocked to that level (with nurses to administer – not carers).
Just investigate the mother and this pseudo-religious cult masquerading as caring and compassionate. They’re the real problem.
> 25 May
> A hearing is held to decide if further MRI scans should be conducted.
> **Archie’s parents did not consent on the basis that moving Archie could harm him.**
Say no more.
I heard hospices don’t take patients who are 24-48 hrs before death so hopefully they’ll refuse to take someone who’s already dead for all intents and purposes.
At the risk of sounding incredibly insensitive the family just need to accept that it is literally impossible for him to recover and that he is dead, as difficult as that may be to take, and right now by keeping him on life support they’re taking up valuable hospital equipment, space and time that could be used for another patient who may have a chance at recovery.
One would wonder how anyone could be transported while on every form of life support to another location.
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Family and Christian Groups pushing this nonsense are attention-seeking lunatics.
I saw her interviewed on TV yesterday. Her hope is that he can die ‘in a garden’ surrounded by birds and wildlife. It’s entirely unrealistic. The poor child has been dead for a long time and his heart will stop as soon as life support is switched off. Whatever happens, she’s going to blame doctors and nurses. Awful situation all round.
I hope every hospice refuses to accept him, even if the courts allow it. Let the poor lad just go in peace.
>”If they refuse permission for us to take him to a hospice and for him to receive palliative oxygen it will simply be inhumane and nothing about Archie’s ‘dignity’.”
She has to be taking the piss, talking about his dignity when he has been effectively dead for ages, but still dragged though the courts and media all so she can get her time in the spotlight. If she cared about his dignity, she would accept there is nothing that can be done for him and she would spend as much time with him in the hospital as possible, with no media statements or interviews. She would simply release a statement after saying at X time life support was turned off and then leave it at that.
Mother is scared she’s gonna lose her new paycheck.
Keep the kid alive and live comfortably of the proceeds.
Kid deserves a clean and quick death, if anyone had.
Then the mother needs to be investigated why she emotionally abused him and socially isolated him to the point where a child commits suicide.
Hospice doctor here (adult, not paediatric). I can’t see that any hospice in the land would be able to provide adequate care for Archie, never mind the fact that he us highly likely to die in transit. Hospice doctors and nurses simply don’t have experience in managing ventilation, high dose vasopressors, dialysis (if he’s dialysed) etc etc etc, and a planned terminal extubation/withdrawal of care is far better done in hospital with the input of the hospital palliative care team (who will have experience with this).
I would also worry that the family would start causing trouble for the hospice – we’ve already see how suspicious Mum is of healthcare professionals, and I suspect that if Archie deteriorates “before his time” – which is inevitable – Mum and her acolytes will cause a massive stink about it.
It all just seems set up for the family to delay further and cause more headaches for staff, and is definitely not in Archie’s best interest any more.
You don’t transfer brain dead patients on a ventilator to hospices.
His heart will stop within 5 mins of taking him off the ventilator and infusions because he will make no effort to breathe (because he is brain dead).
He need to have the tubes removed in ITU ASAP with or without his family present and the circus needs to end.
The Mum has previous for this.
Before this she was involved in numerous court cases about getting Archie back in school after he was excluded for 2 years.
The way she posts about this is very telling- the glee about ‘going to court’, it’s all about her winning and barely a mention about her son and the education she was supposedly fighting for.
Then two years later she’s doing it all again. I think we’ve all met people like this, people who for some unfathomable reason love endless wrangling fights that make THEM feel important. What the argument is about is almost irrelevant.
>”If they refuse permission for us to take him to a hospice and for him to receive palliative oxygen it will simply be inhumane and nothing about Archie’s ‘dignity’.
This stopped being about this boys “dignity” a LONG time ago.
My god I feel for the medical staff who will be responsible for the absolute nightmare circus catastrophe that would be getting him to a hospice. How straightfoward does his mother actually think that will be?!
Surely it’s obvious that that will be a nightmare fraught with further issues, and Hollie will 100% blame medical staff for “killing him on the way to the hospice”. I can completely see her trying to sue them.
The trust had behaved impeccably, but they need to let the moral high ground go at this point and inform the family that without a court order preventing them from doing otherwise they’re immediately setting a time to remove artificial interventions.
That womans a vile human being – that poor poor lad should not of been put through this shit show.
At this point it feels like a fucked up documentary waiting to happen. I hope that one day we hear the medical staff about their experiences and feelings with all this. This must be bordering on, if not outright potentially traumatizing for them to have to continuously care for a rotting corpse, while facing the aggression from the mother.
Do you think they’ll be an investigation into why he did this/looking at the social media involvement? I imagine it’s still quite rare in this country for a child of this age to do what he did. I’d want to know if I was his parent.
but when the hospital previously offered to move him his Mum said he’d die in transit and now claims the hospital are holding him hostage and preventing a dignifeid death. fuuuuuuuuuucking hell
Lay your boy to rest and grieve for him for goodness sake.
They’re proposing moving a dead body that they’re artificially respirating. He’ll lose any vital signs the minute they take him off life support.
The poor kid has been dead for a while, his body is literally going through stages of necrosis and his brain is leaking down his spine. As a father I can’t imagine the heartbreak losing a child causes but fuck me give the lad some dignity.
Facebook is an absolute minefield of religious, uneducated fanatics just enabling this type of behaviour and it’s scary. He’s being used by his cunt of a mother and far right Christian groups.
All I’m reading from what I can assume is 60% bot accounts and 40% humans is “he has a heartbeat so he’s still alive he can pull through, thoughts and prayers.” Given the recent abortion overturning in the US I can only guess as to why she’s being used as a political pawn.
There should be a law against psychotic child abuse
She reminds me of that mom who kept poising her kid to make them sick and get sympathy + donations
Wonder what happened to that case
Stayed up last night and read the court judgment – sorry I can’t find the link again, but worth reading it. Very readable for a lay person such as myself and gave a very detailed overview of the case, the arguments and the evidence.
# The Judge has found and judged that Archie Battersbee died on 31st May 2022.
He then found that it is not in Archie’s best interests – alive or dead – to receive medical intervention. The Judge decided that the mechanical devices should be turned off, medication should not be given and that resusitation should not be undertaken.
It would help, I think, if we refer to Archie – kindly, compassionately and with dignity – as being dead. He doesn’t need a hospice, he is already dead. He shouldn’t be transfered to another hospital because he is dead. Further treatments can not be given, because he is dead. He does not need more time to see if his body can recuperate, because he is dead. It cuts through the emotion, to the truth of the matter.
There is no recovery from death.
When Archie is finally allowed to rest, you can bet it won’t be in peace. She’ll no doubt claim the hospital staff murdered him and try to kick off another tedious circus of court hearings to get compo money.
These are not the actions or behaviour of a Mother who is safeguarding her child or putting his needs first nor has his best interests at heart. This morbid fiasco needs to stop and Archie deserves peace and dignity. You do not own your children, they are human beings in their own right not chattel or an extention of their parents.
This is not about Archie anymore and I wondering if it ever was, Mum is doing a stellar job of making it all about her, her feelings and sticking it up to authority because she can’t take the truth, ‘No’ or ‘losing’ or is just trying to get one over on the hospital who have looked after her child to what sounds like an excellent standard since April.
I feel for the hospital staff who have had to care for a child’s corspe for 4 months to appease his Mother’s( and Family’s) feelings, threats and wants. I also feel sympathy for the sick and dying children and their families who have had to put up with all this as they are unfortunately in ICU with her/her family/media circus. I hope she sees sense and starts to spend time with her son rather than constant court appeals/ appearances,posting bile on social media and doing the same regards TV interviews on the news and elsewhere but I’m sure she will not. I feel she is using the extremely dubious Christian Concern as much as they are using her so she is far from a ‘victim’ of them in that respect.
I get the feeling the parents almost want him to die on the move so they can scream murder
There is an ongoing Police investigation which started 11th April. With the recent spate of child cases over COVID I wouldn’t be surprised if there is much more to this than meets the eye. The desperation to keep him “alive” maybe borne out of the knowing that no investigation will conclude before a post mortem. She’s so desperate to engender the idea this was TikTok but her narrative copies exactly that of a girl in the US who died.
I’m not accusing her of anything I’m just saying there are some immense questions that need to be answered before this is ruled accidental, misadventure or suicide. The judge did not rule it an accident, it was accepted in the absence of other evidence (ie post mortem) that it was. The is no current cause of death.
With COVID and Archie’s ADHD issues meaning no school he had no professional oversight for 4-5 years before this happened. That’s a long time for his home life to have been potentially problematic. Her behaviour has been strange and I’m sure the Police will want to interview all involved at a time deemed compassionate.
It might all be very innocent and she is simply an incredibly distressed mother fighting for her child’s life, however futile that is.
Family just trying to give the illusion they’re trying tooth and nail for their son. Now though, it’s all about being as difficult as possible to spite everyone. “We’ll do what you want but we’ll put you out dramatically doing it.”
Disgusting from the family, let the boy go in peace. Disgusting from the big hats with the power to stop this charade. The law needs to change after this spectacle.
I’m so sick of all the sympathy towards her. “Oh it must be so hard, she’s driven by grief and emotion”. No. It’s beyond a joke now, when is enough enough?
How many judges? How many courts? How many appeals?
When is it time to consider that this mother needs to be sectioned or the like? Keeping a son as a living corpse surely is some sort of mental illness after so many months
Archie’s mother better make very very sure that she doesn’t put a foot wrong after this episode is over because the tabloids will be out to crucify her. Especially when it comes to the money that’s been raised.
This is the treatment that Archie Batterbee is on
Standard treatment and care practiced in a neuro-intensive care with round the clock care provided by 1:1 and at times 2:1 nursing (heavily dependent)
Continuous and invasive monitoring to allow target of haemodynamic parameters (monitoring of blood pressure, heart rate and urine output and treatment targeted to keep them within a standard range known to be safe)
Oxygenation and carbon dioxide clearance by the ventilator (breathing machine) as he is unable to breathe for himself
Routine neuro-critical care respiratory management (standard patient positioning, turning, clearance of secretions by suctioning and physiotherapy of the chest)
Regular turning and care to prevent pressure areas developing and bed sores
Regular cleaning and changes to prevent skin breakdown
Support of the blood pressure with medications as needed
Treatment for chest, blood or other infection with antibiotics as required
Continuous Vasopressin administration to control water balance and salt balance within the body based on hourly urine output
Fluid boluses due to large uncontrolled urine output despite treatment as needed
Feeding via a tube into the stomach to give nutrition as tolerated
Loperamide treatment to slow down the passage of food through his gastrointestinal tract due to diarrhoea secondary to gut failure associated with brain failure
Administration of glucose to prevent low blood sugars as needed
Electrolyte disturbance corrections, particularly potassium, (body salts kept within a safe range by regular replacement)
Active warming to prevent the body getting too cold as needed
Steroid replacement and thyroid hormone replacement (hormone replacement needed due to brain damage)
Prophylactic treatment to prevent deep vein thrombosis (clots forming in blood vessels)
Good luck in finding a Hospice that can do all that
> “On whether this might be because the hospital believes it can give Archie the best care, Hollie Dance said: “They haven’t given Archie any care, so no it’s not.”
Is she for fucking real?
So glad I found this thread of comments. This whole situation has bothered me and I can finally pinpoint why I feel as though I dislike his family but with nothing concrete to explain why!
Even in death he can’t escape her. What a nasty vile woman
Quick question, if we took a freshly passed away human, who everyone would confirm is dead, then strapped them to all the protocols that Archie is on, surely that dead body’s heart would start beating, lungs “breathing” and so on, but nonetheless that person is already dead, would it not be the exact same case with Archie? And this is simply denial taken to the extreme
“Archie’s brain stem is squashed into the top of his spinal cord. Some decaying parts of the brain are seen to have dropped down Archie’s spine and to be sitting in the lumbar region of his spinal cord” – reading this from court Im not even sure a hospice would take him
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>Doctors have warned there is “significant risk” in moving him.
I hope the doctors and hospital dig-in and just say NO to the request, this family has caused enough problems for the doctors and nurses for them to be given even the slightest victory.
Ugh. Same script from the ‘Christian’ /vultures as Charlie G.
He can’t be moved. He needs constant medical attention – 17 protocols to keep his body from decaying.
Attempting to move him might be the quickest way to bring this entire situation to its natural conclusion.
What are the odds of this succeeding? Because with what we’ve heard about his state, I wager this hypothetical victory would be hollow since he’d likely be dead before he made it to the hospice at that rate, meaning that we might actually see an end to this shitshow.
Nothing says love and compassion more than your family wanting you to die in transit than a comfortable hospital bed you’re currently in.
There’s an incredibly high risk of that, assuming a hospice would allow the move considering the time and resources to put together a room, put together a care and support package, plus medicines which they probably do not have as it’s unusual for a hospice to take a brain stem dead person, or would rather allocate to people still somewhat conscious of stocked to that level (with nurses to administer – not carers).
Just investigate the mother and this pseudo-religious cult masquerading as caring and compassionate. They’re the real problem.
> 25 May
> A hearing is held to decide if further MRI scans should be conducted.
> **Archie’s parents did not consent on the basis that moving Archie could harm him.**
Say no more.
I heard hospices don’t take patients who are 24-48 hrs before death so hopefully they’ll refuse to take someone who’s already dead for all intents and purposes.
At the risk of sounding incredibly insensitive the family just need to accept that it is literally impossible for him to recover and that he is dead, as difficult as that may be to take, and right now by keeping him on life support they’re taking up valuable hospital equipment, space and time that could be used for another patient who may have a chance at recovery.
One would wonder how anyone could be transported while on every form of life support to another location.
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Family and Christian Groups pushing this nonsense are attention-seeking lunatics.
I saw her interviewed on TV yesterday. Her hope is that he can die ‘in a garden’ surrounded by birds and wildlife. It’s entirely unrealistic. The poor child has been dead for a long time and his heart will stop as soon as life support is switched off. Whatever happens, she’s going to blame doctors and nurses. Awful situation all round.
I hope every hospice refuses to accept him, even if the courts allow it. Let the poor lad just go in peace.
>”If they refuse permission for us to take him to a hospice and for him to receive palliative oxygen it will simply be inhumane and nothing about Archie’s ‘dignity’.”
She has to be taking the piss, talking about his dignity when he has been effectively dead for ages, but still dragged though the courts and media all so she can get her time in the spotlight. If she cared about his dignity, she would accept there is nothing that can be done for him and she would spend as much time with him in the hospital as possible, with no media statements or interviews. She would simply release a statement after saying at X time life support was turned off and then leave it at that.
Mother is scared she’s gonna lose her new paycheck.
Keep the kid alive and live comfortably of the proceeds.
Kid deserves a clean and quick death, if anyone had.
Then the mother needs to be investigated why she emotionally abused him and socially isolated him to the point where a child commits suicide.
Hospice doctor here (adult, not paediatric). I can’t see that any hospice in the land would be able to provide adequate care for Archie, never mind the fact that he us highly likely to die in transit. Hospice doctors and nurses simply don’t have experience in managing ventilation, high dose vasopressors, dialysis (if he’s dialysed) etc etc etc, and a planned terminal extubation/withdrawal of care is far better done in hospital with the input of the hospital palliative care team (who will have experience with this).
I would also worry that the family would start causing trouble for the hospice – we’ve already see how suspicious Mum is of healthcare professionals, and I suspect that if Archie deteriorates “before his time” – which is inevitable – Mum and her acolytes will cause a massive stink about it.
It all just seems set up for the family to delay further and cause more headaches for staff, and is definitely not in Archie’s best interest any more.
You don’t transfer brain dead patients on a ventilator to hospices.
His heart will stop within 5 mins of taking him off the ventilator and infusions because he will make no effort to breathe (because he is brain dead).
He need to have the tubes removed in ITU ASAP with or without his family present and the circus needs to end.
The Mum has previous for this.
Before this she was involved in numerous court cases about getting Archie back in school after he was excluded for 2 years.
The way she posts about this is very telling- the glee about ‘going to court’, it’s all about her winning and barely a mention about her son and the education she was supposedly fighting for.
Then two years later she’s doing it all again. I think we’ve all met people like this, people who for some unfathomable reason love endless wrangling fights that make THEM feel important. What the argument is about is almost irrelevant.
>”If they refuse permission for us to take him to a hospice and for him to receive palliative oxygen it will simply be inhumane and nothing about Archie’s ‘dignity’.
This stopped being about this boys “dignity” a LONG time ago.
My god I feel for the medical staff who will be responsible for the absolute nightmare circus catastrophe that would be getting him to a hospice. How straightfoward does his mother actually think that will be?!
Surely it’s obvious that that will be a nightmare fraught with further issues, and Hollie will 100% blame medical staff for “killing him on the way to the hospice”. I can completely see her trying to sue them.
The trust had behaved impeccably, but they need to let the moral high ground go at this point and inform the family that without a court order preventing them from doing otherwise they’re immediately setting a time to remove artificial interventions.
That womans a vile human being – that poor poor lad should not of been put through this shit show.
At this point it feels like a fucked up documentary waiting to happen. I hope that one day we hear the medical staff about their experiences and feelings with all this. This must be bordering on, if not outright potentially traumatizing for them to have to continuously care for a rotting corpse, while facing the aggression from the mother.
Do you think they’ll be an investigation into why he did this/looking at the social media involvement? I imagine it’s still quite rare in this country for a child of this age to do what he did. I’d want to know if I was his parent.
but when the hospital previously offered to move him his Mum said he’d die in transit and now claims the hospital are holding him hostage and preventing a dignifeid death. fuuuuuuuuuucking hell
Lay your boy to rest and grieve for him for goodness sake.
They’re proposing moving a dead body that they’re artificially respirating. He’ll lose any vital signs the minute they take him off life support.
The poor kid has been dead for a while, his body is literally going through stages of necrosis and his brain is leaking down his spine. As a father I can’t imagine the heartbreak losing a child causes but fuck me give the lad some dignity.
Facebook is an absolute minefield of religious, uneducated fanatics just enabling this type of behaviour and it’s scary. He’s being used by his cunt of a mother and far right Christian groups.
All I’m reading from what I can assume is 60% bot accounts and 40% humans is “he has a heartbeat so he’s still alive he can pull through, thoughts and prayers.” Given the recent abortion overturning in the US I can only guess as to why she’s being used as a political pawn.
There should be a law against psychotic child abuse
She reminds me of that mom who kept poising her kid to make them sick and get sympathy + donations
Wonder what happened to that case
Stayed up last night and read the court judgment – sorry I can’t find the link again, but worth reading it. Very readable for a lay person such as myself and gave a very detailed overview of the case, the arguments and the evidence.
# The Judge has found and judged that Archie Battersbee died on 31st May 2022.
He then found that it is not in Archie’s best interests – alive or dead – to receive medical intervention. The Judge decided that the mechanical devices should be turned off, medication should not be given and that resusitation should not be undertaken.
It would help, I think, if we refer to Archie – kindly, compassionately and with dignity – as being dead. He doesn’t need a hospice, he is already dead. He shouldn’t be transfered to another hospital because he is dead. Further treatments can not be given, because he is dead. He does not need more time to see if his body can recuperate, because he is dead. It cuts through the emotion, to the truth of the matter.
There is no recovery from death.
When Archie is finally allowed to rest, you can bet it won’t be in peace. She’ll no doubt claim the hospital staff murdered him and try to kick off another tedious circus of court hearings to get compo money.
These are not the actions or behaviour of a Mother who is safeguarding her child or putting his needs first nor has his best interests at heart. This morbid fiasco needs to stop and Archie deserves peace and dignity. You do not own your children, they are human beings in their own right not chattel or an extention of their parents.
This is not about Archie anymore and I wondering if it ever was, Mum is doing a stellar job of making it all about her, her feelings and sticking it up to authority because she can’t take the truth, ‘No’ or ‘losing’ or is just trying to get one over on the hospital who have looked after her child to what sounds like an excellent standard since April.
I feel for the hospital staff who have had to care for a child’s corspe for 4 months to appease his Mother’s( and Family’s) feelings, threats and wants. I also feel sympathy for the sick and dying children and their families who have had to put up with all this as they are unfortunately in ICU with her/her family/media circus. I hope she sees sense and starts to spend time with her son rather than constant court appeals/ appearances,posting bile on social media and doing the same regards TV interviews on the news and elsewhere but I’m sure she will not. I feel she is using the extremely dubious Christian Concern as much as they are using her so she is far from a ‘victim’ of them in that respect.
I get the feeling the parents almost want him to die on the move so they can scream murder
There is an ongoing Police investigation which started 11th April. With the recent spate of child cases over COVID I wouldn’t be surprised if there is much more to this than meets the eye. The desperation to keep him “alive” maybe borne out of the knowing that no investigation will conclude before a post mortem. She’s so desperate to engender the idea this was TikTok but her narrative copies exactly that of a girl in the US who died.
I’m not accusing her of anything I’m just saying there are some immense questions that need to be answered before this is ruled accidental, misadventure or suicide. The judge did not rule it an accident, it was accepted in the absence of other evidence (ie post mortem) that it was. The is no current cause of death.
With COVID and Archie’s ADHD issues meaning no school he had no professional oversight for 4-5 years before this happened. That’s a long time for his home life to have been potentially problematic. Her behaviour has been strange and I’m sure the Police will want to interview all involved at a time deemed compassionate.
It might all be very innocent and she is simply an incredibly distressed mother fighting for her child’s life, however futile that is.
Family just trying to give the illusion they’re trying tooth and nail for their son. Now though, it’s all about being as difficult as possible to spite everyone. “We’ll do what you want but we’ll put you out dramatically doing it.”
Disgusting from the family, let the boy go in peace. Disgusting from the big hats with the power to stop this charade. The law needs to change after this spectacle.
> [Archie Battersbee: Mother says she will give son ‘mouth-to-mouth’ if oxygen turned off](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/04/archie-battersbees-family-appeal-high-court-allow-die-hospice/)
Is this woman actually delusional?
I’m so sick of all the sympathy towards her. “Oh it must be so hard, she’s driven by grief and emotion”. No. It’s beyond a joke now, when is enough enough?
How many judges? How many courts? How many appeals?
When is it time to consider that this mother needs to be sectioned or the like? Keeping a son as a living corpse surely is some sort of mental illness after so many months
Archie’s mother better make very very sure that she doesn’t put a foot wrong after this episode is over because the tabloids will be out to crucify her. Especially when it comes to the money that’s been raised.
This is the treatment that Archie Batterbee is on
Standard treatment and care practiced in a neuro-intensive care with round the clock care provided by 1:1 and at times 2:1 nursing (heavily dependent)
Continuous and invasive monitoring to allow target of haemodynamic parameters (monitoring of blood pressure, heart rate and urine output and treatment targeted to keep them within a standard range known to be safe)
Oxygenation and carbon dioxide clearance by the ventilator (breathing machine) as he is unable to breathe for himself
Routine neuro-critical care respiratory management (standard patient positioning, turning, clearance of secretions by suctioning and physiotherapy of the chest)
Regular turning and care to prevent pressure areas developing and bed sores
Regular cleaning and changes to prevent skin breakdown
Support of the blood pressure with medications as needed
Treatment for chest, blood or other infection with antibiotics as required
Continuous Vasopressin administration to control water balance and salt balance within the body based on hourly urine output
Fluid boluses due to large uncontrolled urine output despite treatment as needed
Feeding via a tube into the stomach to give nutrition as tolerated
Loperamide treatment to slow down the passage of food through his gastrointestinal tract due to diarrhoea secondary to gut failure associated with brain failure
Administration of glucose to prevent low blood sugars as needed
Electrolyte disturbance corrections, particularly potassium, (body salts kept within a safe range by regular replacement)
Active warming to prevent the body getting too cold as needed
Steroid replacement and thyroid hormone replacement (hormone replacement needed due to brain damage)
Prophylactic treatment to prevent deep vein thrombosis (clots forming in blood vessels)
Good luck in finding a Hospice that can do all that
> “On whether this might be because the hospital believes it can give Archie the best care, Hollie Dance said: “They haven’t given Archie any care, so no it’s not.”
Is she for fucking real?
So glad I found this thread of comments. This whole situation has bothered me and I can finally pinpoint why I feel as though I dislike his family but with nothing concrete to explain why!
Even in death he can’t escape her. What a nasty vile woman
Quick question, if we took a freshly passed away human, who everyone would confirm is dead, then strapped them to all the protocols that Archie is on, surely that dead body’s heart would start beating, lungs “breathing” and so on, but nonetheless that person is already dead, would it not be the exact same case with Archie? And this is simply denial taken to the extreme
“Archie’s brain stem is squashed into the top of his spinal cord. Some decaying parts of the brain are seen to have dropped down Archie’s spine and to be sitting in the lumbar region of his spinal cord” – reading this from court Im not even sure a hospice would take him