Oh no poor snowflakes, can’t have their eyes exposed to French.
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I’ve seen something similar, but with all three, French, Dutch, and German being vandalized.
The signpost is in Laken, which is Brussels and in Brussels signs are in both languages (which communes sometimes forget). In Grimbergen signs are in Dutch only, and the roundabout behind the signpost is in Grimbergen. I hope we will not discuss the rightness of this system, because it easier when we close all discussions and each side respects the agreement which is part of the constitution. And yes, there always will be people not respecting the law, on both sides. In this case it might even be someone who does not know where exactly Brussels ends and Grimbergen starts…
Also: should we make a cycle lane on the roundabout or separated? Let’s do something in between!
As someone who predominantly cycles, I like the right of way. But such configuration is asking for blind spot or ‘I don’t check my mirrors’ accidents.
Background information: Brussels is located as a seperate entity inside a Dutch speaking province. Brussels itself is bilingual but there are more French speakers than Dutch speakers.
Over many years, French speaking inhabitants of Brussels and Wallonia are migrating to the cities around Brussels that are Dutch speaking territories. It actually became so bad that in neighborhoods the Dutch speaking people became a minority.
French speaking people most of the times don’t want to speak/learn Dutch. That is why there are now laws in those cities that all communication needs to be done in Dutch to kind of force those people to learn Dutch and to adapt to the realities that they moved to a Dutch speaking area and they can’t force their language upon them.
“OMG, this direction road sign has French on it, I’m so offended I must deface it”
People seriously don’t have anything better to do than roam the streets with spray paint?
I sometimes wonder who exactly would find the time and would be willing to pay for the spray paint to cover these words.
Then again, it’s perfectly possible that this is one of the spray painted signals from a faciliteitengemeente and noone bothered to remove the paint. That would also be very Belgian.
I think time has come just ignore all this, all of us
More importantly why do you need a give way sign on a roundabout?
Lived in Flanders but went to a French speaking elementary school. We would get vandalised all the time by racist Flemish with graffiti and obscene language.
It is really unfortunate the amount of bigotry at the border of Brussels and Flanders. Never understood why.
Small penis energy I think
When you try to discourage people but you fail. xD
He just underlined it to make sure people could see it.
To open this outside of our borders – openness to other languages is a sign of open culture and progress – and dutch speakers (in Belgium or Netherlands) are not lacking it. Due to our political borders (Belgium, one country) – there is simply an expectation that language openness of dutch speaking culture is to be matched in the approach by french speaking culture and that in general is far less the case. Not because french speakers (in Wallonie or France) despise dutch – but they show lower interest for any other language!!
On a serious note – to anyone who has kids in Belgium and has elementary knowledge of belgian economy figures (private sector) – removing dutch from your kids education is severely removing their tomorrow career prospects if they plan to work in Belgium.
Both dutch and french should be mandatory as official languages in all schools in Belgium – in a model closest to what Swiss have.
It’s time to move ahead and put bilangual signs everywhere in Europe, with both the local language & the English translation.
It’s the borders of Brussels whether they seem to be the most anal about it.
As a kid, I was always taught that languages are a virtue, not a danger. I’ve lived for 15 years in the beautiful city of Ghent. Not a week passed by, helping tourists to understand the fantastic single language signs or helping them buy a ticket because either it was incomprehensible, or the driver shouted to them to go to the “Lijnwinkeltje”.
I always laugh when I pass the “Welkom in Vlaanderen” sign when crossing the border… We really are narcissistic c$#@ts saying welcome to ourselves.
Yearly, I have contacted De Lijn and some flemish deputies to complain and request that this becomes reviewed because honestly, it is quite silly. However, every person I talk to hides behind the language law (Taalwet) and some try to explain to me it is here to protect Dutch/Flemish.
Honestly, I don’t really get this Flemish identity s#2t, formulated in an extremely limiting law. Maybe it is because I am a product of a Walloon mother (who spoke perfect dutch) and a Flemish father (who speaks perfect French)…
Shame, could it be the guy in th black BMW with exposed numberplate, the arrow seems to be pointing in his direction, it’s always the black BMW isn’t it
It would all be easier if everyone and I mean everyone in Belgium would also learn Flemish at school (and like in Wallonië not have to choose between English and Flemish at the age of 12).
It’s just common respect if you are really concerned about keeping the country together.
Same is true on the French/Belgian borders where both languages are shown then you’ll notice the Flemish sprayed out
I used to have this colleague that made this “issue” his entire personality. Could not shut up about “In vlaanderen spreken we vloms!”
Could be the contractor who placed the sign did it himself. There are some strict laws on where you can use different languages on road signs, and if this sign is placed in Flanders, french would be prohibited. In most places in Flanders it would not be a problem, but close to Brussels somebody will file a complaint for sure.
If it is in flanders it is actually illegal to have it in french there due to ‘taalwetgeving’. Could very well have been the men that have put it up there in the first place that did this.
I’m really getting more and more annoyed about Flemish nationalists. Pushy, loud idiots. They are the reason I don’t call myself Flemish anymore. I don’t want to be associated with that scum.
Idiots are everywhere. But de vlaamse rand seems to be their preferred biotope.
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Oh no poor snowflakes, can’t have their eyes exposed to French.
based
I’ve seen something similar, but with all three, French, Dutch, and German being vandalized.
The signpost is in Laken, which is Brussels and in Brussels signs are in both languages (which communes sometimes forget). In Grimbergen signs are in Dutch only, and the roundabout behind the signpost is in Grimbergen. I hope we will not discuss the rightness of this system, because it easier when we close all discussions and each side respects the agreement which is part of the constitution. And yes, there always will be people not respecting the law, on both sides. In this case it might even be someone who does not know where exactly Brussels ends and Grimbergen starts…
Also: should we make a cycle lane on the roundabout or separated? Let’s do something in between!
As someone who predominantly cycles, I like the right of way. But such configuration is asking for blind spot or ‘I don’t check my mirrors’ accidents.
Background information: Brussels is located as a seperate entity inside a Dutch speaking province. Brussels itself is bilingual but there are more French speakers than Dutch speakers.
Over many years, French speaking inhabitants of Brussels and Wallonia are migrating to the cities around Brussels that are Dutch speaking territories. It actually became so bad that in neighborhoods the Dutch speaking people became a minority.
French speaking people most of the times don’t want to speak/learn Dutch. That is why there are now laws in those cities that all communication needs to be done in Dutch to kind of force those people to learn Dutch and to adapt to the realities that they moved to a Dutch speaking area and they can’t force their language upon them.
“OMG, this direction road sign has French on it, I’m so offended I must deface it”
People seriously don’t have anything better to do than roam the streets with spray paint?
I sometimes wonder who exactly would find the time and would be willing to pay for the spray paint to cover these words.
Then again, it’s perfectly possible that this is one of the spray painted signals from a faciliteitengemeente and noone bothered to remove the paint. That would also be very Belgian.
EDIT: I just checked it on Google maps. That spray painted signal has been there [since at least June 2020](https://www.google.be/maps/@50.9011827,4.3576272,3a,38.4y,19.17h,78.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHAVhVrte-72DhrsBgD34Xw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192). That same signal has been hanging there for two whole years, with the same paint mark btw, and noone even bothered to clean it. As I said, thats very Belgian indeed…
I think time has come just ignore all this, all of us
More importantly why do you need a give way sign on a roundabout?
Lived in Flanders but went to a French speaking elementary school. We would get vandalised all the time by racist Flemish with graffiti and obscene language.
It is really unfortunate the amount of bigotry at the border of Brussels and Flanders. Never understood why.
Small penis energy I think
When you try to discourage people but you fail. xD
He just underlined it to make sure people could see it.
To open this outside of our borders – openness to other languages is a sign of open culture and progress – and dutch speakers (in Belgium or Netherlands) are not lacking it. Due to our political borders (Belgium, one country) – there is simply an expectation that language openness of dutch speaking culture is to be matched in the approach by french speaking culture and that in general is far less the case. Not because french speakers (in Wallonie or France) despise dutch – but they show lower interest for any other language!!
On a serious note – to anyone who has kids in Belgium and has elementary knowledge of belgian economy figures (private sector) – removing dutch from your kids education is severely removing their tomorrow career prospects if they plan to work in Belgium.
Both dutch and french should be mandatory as official languages in all schools in Belgium – in a model closest to what Swiss have.
It’s time to move ahead and put bilangual signs everywhere in Europe, with both the local language & the English translation.
It’s the borders of Brussels whether they seem to be the most anal about it.
As a kid, I was always taught that languages are a virtue, not a danger. I’ve lived for 15 years in the beautiful city of Ghent. Not a week passed by, helping tourists to understand the fantastic single language signs or helping them buy a ticket because either it was incomprehensible, or the driver shouted to them to go to the “Lijnwinkeltje”.
I always laugh when I pass the “Welkom in Vlaanderen” sign when crossing the border… We really are narcissistic c$#@ts saying welcome to ourselves.
Yearly, I have contacted De Lijn and some flemish deputies to complain and request that this becomes reviewed because honestly, it is quite silly. However, every person I talk to hides behind the language law (Taalwet) and some try to explain to me it is here to protect Dutch/Flemish.
Honestly, I don’t really get this Flemish identity s#2t, formulated in an extremely limiting law. Maybe it is because I am a product of a Walloon mother (who spoke perfect dutch) and a Flemish father (who speaks perfect French)…
Shame, could it be the guy in th black BMW with exposed numberplate, the arrow seems to be pointing in his direction, it’s always the black BMW isn’t it
It would all be easier if everyone and I mean everyone in Belgium would also learn Flemish at school (and like in Wallonië not have to choose between English and Flemish at the age of 12).
It’s just common respect if you are really concerned about keeping the country together.
Same is true on the French/Belgian borders where both languages are shown then you’ll notice the Flemish sprayed out
I used to have this colleague that made this “issue” his entire personality. Could not shut up about “In vlaanderen spreken we vloms!”
Could be the contractor who placed the sign did it himself. There are some strict laws on where you can use different languages on road signs, and if this sign is placed in Flanders, french would be prohibited. In most places in Flanders it would not be a problem, but close to Brussels somebody will file a complaint for sure.
If it is in flanders it is actually illegal to have it in french there due to ‘taalwetgeving’. Could very well have been the men that have put it up there in the first place that did this.
I’m really getting more and more annoyed about Flemish nationalists. Pushy, loud idiots. They are the reason I don’t call myself Flemish anymore. I don’t want to be associated with that scum.
Idiots are everywhere. But de vlaamse rand seems to be their preferred biotope.
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