Can’t even get physio at home for my disabled mother wheel chair boind and mostly stuck in bed, because of cuts yet 1bil no worries 👍 where the feck is that money for the most vulnerable people who need it. Ugh boils my blood.
Good stuff. Well done the Government. 👏🍀
We have taken in about 5 times per capita what France and 3-4 times Italy and Spain have have done.
Good
If you have a problem with Ireland helping women and children fleeing a war to temporarily have a place of safety your a begrudging piece of shit.
These people aren’t 20yo fit males who elected to leave home looking for more economic opportunities and a new life like most of our migrants – these are people who celebrated last Christmas in their homes just like you and then watched their neighbours buried in their gardens last Easter.
Their lives have been turned upside down through no fault of their own.
I’m actually okay with that.
Good. This is a serious emergency with immediate threat to life to our neighbours.
It requires serious emergency spending.
It is sad that we’ve been incapable of balancing emergency spending with our own long term needs at home; it’s been the same for 100 years of self governence. But I am happy that individuals, government, charities are reacting this way; this spending is the broad will of our people to help out neighbour.
All the issues we face are not in the control of common people but those that make the rules and laws. Now I have stayed quite a lot of this to see how it progresses with people on here.
Firstly people have a right to safety, plenty have argued that with me, you know who you are.
Secondly Ireland has had housing issues since like forever people keep mentioning the 80’s and 90’s and looking back over time it’s seems like a common theme in Ireland. Seems things are hard learned or people just keep playing games. For their profit.
Thirdly there are answers to this problem but it involves building accommodation, which currently sits in the hands of for profit companies, am not sure how delude people are but asking a for profit company to build enough accommodation that will effect rents or lower them isn’t in their play book, maximize profits, not lower them is a companies objective.
So let me round of with saying if you are happy to scapegoat common people and not the system then more fool you. If people all tried to work together with the objective of building more, less narratives, less agendas, it would be cool.
Build more, simple.
Hashtag Palestine.
So proud to be Irish. Let’s hope we can be a very close partner to Ukraine from now on.
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It’s an interesting thing for most areas, there are definitely a lot of Ukrainians in my area of Dublin at the moment, you see their car registrations and a lot more at least cyrillic languages being spoken (I have no idea if it’s the Ukrainian language or not). It’s definitely not a bad thing. Most of them have offered their work for the area on local facebook groups and have been incredibly nice when interacting with them.
There’s no magic money tree to fix our housing crisis, but there is to help white, christain refugees.
It’s not their fault their country was invaded. So Russia alone is the blame for displacing them. Yet it has put more pressure on us as a country, but I think it’s right that we do it.
Would rather spend my taxes on these people than the vast majority of wasted government expenditure including the generational social welfare recipients.
The sentiment of many of the upvoted comments in here is absolutely fucking appalling. To any Ukrainians or outsiders that may be reading this thread, do not get disheartened. Ireland is a welcoming place and these views do not represent most of us.
Ok, I get it, we have a moral duty to help, and I am happy that we’re doing something, but holy fucking shit, mr. Government, we citizens also need help, otherwise what’s the point of the government even existing
I think part of Putins game plan is to break the resolve of the EU by overwhelming it with refugees – we are talking about a country of over 40 million.
i’ll add here my dad has some job where he’s building houses with water and electric and heat for ukrainian refugees
idk why i just found it interesting
Maybe spend some of that money on housing to put them in?
Tis but a drop
Tbh i think we have bit of more than we can chew , the main language in my small rural town far from dublin is ukrainian now.
Good
Firstly, to be clear I agree with taking in refugees.
My complaint about this is not that the government have done it, it’s that they somehow found money to do it when they can’t do similar for all the kids waiting on disability services for years and hospital waiting lists.
Like most I 100% agree with helping the Ukranian people in their hour of need.
However, I don’t agree with a limitless cap. Before this kicked off we already had homeless people in hotels etc and our housing was stretched to capacity. Ireland does not have the capacity to take unlimited refugees. Nor am I happy that a magic money has suddenly been found when so many of our own issues continue to be unresolved.
Also, let’s be clear here about our own history. Yes we emigrated en masse but “no blacks, no dogs, no irish” were common signs and wasn’t like we were welcomed.
None of the above makes me racist, anti immigration etc. It makes me realistic and sensible.
Just watch as a right wing party (not a looney) becomes established here and uses this situation as a rallying cry.
Damn, we could have built a whole half of a children’s hospital for that
Good stuff. I hope Ukraine, and Europe in general, can recover from this ASAP.
We have had refugees in this country for almost thirty years. Where was this energy then? Why are direct provision centres still housing people decades after they arrived.
I have no issue with Ukrainian refugees. I have issues with this government suddenly pulling out all the stops and acting like big humanitarians.
There are many here in Kerry, mostly families. The goverment wastes money every day of the week. Keeping those families safe will never be a waste. Some here already have jobs and are interacting with the community, how can that be a bad thing. Some areas in Ireland would be dead without people coming to live from abroad, not that we are housing refugees there but it would be a nice thought. The trouble we have is the idea that they will end up like previous refugees from outside the eu and aren’t allowed to have jobs and become active in our society . This won’t be the case as the whole country is watching and asking for long term solutions. Not like the poor sods who arrived here ten years ago plus and were never allowed to be contributing members of irish society… add to that our friends from the Ukraine are educated, come from a country with similar industries and most have some or good english so already have a head start.
Yknow with all Europe is spending, would it have been cheaper and quicker to just go to war?
Huge amount of people making a huge amount of money off these poor refugees – blank cheques for some
Im ok with this, however we need to refinance areas and put money where it needs to go bc we have enough of it just not enough will or care.
The HSE for example has a budget of 23bil i think yet its like failing, Money isnt a problem for the HSE at all rn.
Areas such as Defence is neglected and an increase in the DF budget will only be implemented by 2028.
We spend alot on housing, like alot so im baffled by how we havent built significant social housing projects, oh yeah we pay developers ridiculous money to sell and rent properties back to us.
I don’t mind Ukrainians getting a gaff, BUT COULD I PLEASE GET A GAFF NEXT TO THEM?
… and got 2bn from EU
I think that’s too much.
Would you prefer to go to war with Putin or the next arsehole who thinks war mongering and aggression is the way forward?
The whole ‘this but not that’ or ‘this at the expense of that’ narrative is misplaced. We get the TDs and leaders we vote for.
The whole ‘refugees are getting better treatment than Irish’ is a thinly disguised right wing trope which is designed to get us attacking immigrants rather than agitating for better priorities across the board.
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Can’t even get physio at home for my disabled mother wheel chair boind and mostly stuck in bed, because of cuts yet 1bil no worries 👍 where the feck is that money for the most vulnerable people who need it. Ugh boils my blood.
Good stuff. Well done the Government. 👏🍀
We have taken in about 5 times per capita what France and 3-4 times Italy and Spain have have done.
Good
If you have a problem with Ireland helping women and children fleeing a war to temporarily have a place of safety your a begrudging piece of shit.
These people aren’t 20yo fit males who elected to leave home looking for more economic opportunities and a new life like most of our migrants – these are people who celebrated last Christmas in their homes just like you and then watched their neighbours buried in their gardens last Easter.
Their lives have been turned upside down through no fault of their own.
I’m actually okay with that.
Good. This is a serious emergency with immediate threat to life to our neighbours.
It requires serious emergency spending.
It is sad that we’ve been incapable of balancing emergency spending with our own long term needs at home; it’s been the same for 100 years of self governence. But I am happy that individuals, government, charities are reacting this way; this spending is the broad will of our people to help out neighbour.
All the issues we face are not in the control of common people but those that make the rules and laws. Now I have stayed quite a lot of this to see how it progresses with people on here.
Firstly people have a right to safety, plenty have argued that with me, you know who you are.
Secondly Ireland has had housing issues since like forever people keep mentioning the 80’s and 90’s and looking back over time it’s seems like a common theme in Ireland. Seems things are hard learned or people just keep playing games. For their profit.
Thirdly there are answers to this problem but it involves building accommodation, which currently sits in the hands of for profit companies, am not sure how delude people are but asking a for profit company to build enough accommodation that will effect rents or lower them isn’t in their play book, maximize profits, not lower them is a companies objective.
So let me round of with saying if you are happy to scapegoat common people and not the system then more fool you. If people all tried to work together with the objective of building more, less narratives, less agendas, it would be cool.
Build more, simple.
Hashtag Palestine.
So proud to be Irish. Let’s hope we can be a very close partner to Ukraine from now on.
[deleted]
It’s an interesting thing for most areas, there are definitely a lot of Ukrainians in my area of Dublin at the moment, you see their car registrations and a lot more at least cyrillic languages being spoken (I have no idea if it’s the Ukrainian language or not). It’s definitely not a bad thing. Most of them have offered their work for the area on local facebook groups and have been incredibly nice when interacting with them.
There’s no magic money tree to fix our housing crisis, but there is to help white, christain refugees.
It’s not their fault their country was invaded. So Russia alone is the blame for displacing them. Yet it has put more pressure on us as a country, but I think it’s right that we do it.
Would rather spend my taxes on these people than the vast majority of wasted government expenditure including the generational social welfare recipients.
The sentiment of many of the upvoted comments in here is absolutely fucking appalling. To any Ukrainians or outsiders that may be reading this thread, do not get disheartened. Ireland is a welcoming place and these views do not represent most of us.
Ok, I get it, we have a moral duty to help, and I am happy that we’re doing something, but holy fucking shit, mr. Government, we citizens also need help, otherwise what’s the point of the government even existing
I think part of Putins game plan is to break the resolve of the EU by overwhelming it with refugees – we are talking about a country of over 40 million.
i’ll add here my dad has some job where he’s building houses with water and electric and heat for ukrainian refugees
idk why i just found it interesting
Maybe spend some of that money on housing to put them in?
Tis but a drop
Tbh i think we have bit of more than we can chew , the main language in my small rural town far from dublin is ukrainian now.
Good
Firstly, to be clear I agree with taking in refugees.
My complaint about this is not that the government have done it, it’s that they somehow found money to do it when they can’t do similar for all the kids waiting on disability services for years and hospital waiting lists.
Like most I 100% agree with helping the Ukranian people in their hour of need.
However, I don’t agree with a limitless cap. Before this kicked off we already had homeless people in hotels etc and our housing was stretched to capacity. Ireland does not have the capacity to take unlimited refugees. Nor am I happy that a magic money has suddenly been found when so many of our own issues continue to be unresolved.
Also, let’s be clear here about our own history. Yes we emigrated en masse but “no blacks, no dogs, no irish” were common signs and wasn’t like we were welcomed.
None of the above makes me racist, anti immigration etc. It makes me realistic and sensible.
Just watch as a right wing party (not a looney) becomes established here and uses this situation as a rallying cry.
Damn, we could have built a whole half of a children’s hospital for that
Good stuff. I hope Ukraine, and Europe in general, can recover from this ASAP.
We have had refugees in this country for almost thirty years. Where was this energy then? Why are direct provision centres still housing people decades after they arrived.
I have no issue with Ukrainian refugees. I have issues with this government suddenly pulling out all the stops and acting like big humanitarians.
There are many here in Kerry, mostly families. The goverment wastes money every day of the week. Keeping those families safe will never be a waste. Some here already have jobs and are interacting with the community, how can that be a bad thing. Some areas in Ireland would be dead without people coming to live from abroad, not that we are housing refugees there but it would be a nice thought. The trouble we have is the idea that they will end up like previous refugees from outside the eu and aren’t allowed to have jobs and become active in our society . This won’t be the case as the whole country is watching and asking for long term solutions. Not like the poor sods who arrived here ten years ago plus and were never allowed to be contributing members of irish society… add to that our friends from the Ukraine are educated, come from a country with similar industries and most have some or good english so already have a head start.
Yknow with all Europe is spending, would it have been cheaper and quicker to just go to war?
Huge amount of people making a huge amount of money off these poor refugees – blank cheques for some
Im ok with this, however we need to refinance areas and put money where it needs to go bc we have enough of it just not enough will or care.
The HSE for example has a budget of 23bil i think yet its like failing, Money isnt a problem for the HSE at all rn.
Areas such as Defence is neglected and an increase in the DF budget will only be implemented by 2028.
We spend alot on housing, like alot so im baffled by how we havent built significant social housing projects, oh yeah we pay developers ridiculous money to sell and rent properties back to us.
I don’t mind Ukrainians getting a gaff, BUT COULD I PLEASE GET A GAFF NEXT TO THEM?
… and got 2bn from EU
I think that’s too much.
Would you prefer to go to war with Putin or the next arsehole who thinks war mongering and aggression is the way forward?
The whole ‘this but not that’ or ‘this at the expense of that’ narrative is misplaced. We get the TDs and leaders we vote for.
The whole ‘refugees are getting better treatment than Irish’ is a thinly disguised right wing trope which is designed to get us attacking immigrants rather than agitating for better priorities across the board.
It’s almost never ‘either/or’; it’s ‘both/and’