People love to criticize car owners, but this is why a car is essential if you live outside of major transport routes.
Ffs why do they want to ruin everything. We could be building an amazing country but they all spend all day thinking up ways to destroy everything.
This is happening in Nottingham near my friend’s house.
They have a service 141 that goes through a few of the villages. It runs once an hour.
Over the past year or so Trent Barton have been cancelling the bus to provide a spare bus for their other, more profitable, bus routes.
Some people have stopped using it because they know they can’t rely on it actually turning up.
They’re now using the old “fewer people are using this route, so we’re going to cancel it” bullshit to remove the route entirely.
They’re also saying that it’s ok to cancel it as other bus routes will fill in the gaps, despite some of the smaller villages it goes through only have a very limited bus service.
There was a lot of complaints to the local council and now they’re keeping the route for another year while they conduct passenger surveys.
I live in Shropshire which I think is one of the most rural counties in England, if not the most rural.
I don’t drive so I rely on the bus to get me to work in a village 3 miles from town, they have already cut lots of services on this route, which is a very busy route as it covers a large hospital, which is a large local employer so staff and patients without the means to get there any other way use it, it also serves the nearest railway station, as there is no railway station in town, taxis are near impossible to get in this town, you either can’t get one, or many times you book and they either don’t turn up, or they can’t because they’re doing the school run!
So you go to get the bus, that’s become a lottery now as they often just don’t show up at all.
There’s other towns in the county worse off than this, one town, can’t remember which has had its bus services to the nearest larger town cut down to once a week, if you need to go say to hospital for an appointment or to visit someone and you don’t have a car, you’re basically screwed, it’s isolating for people and communities.
Im 40 and i never learned to drive, mainly because I never needed to before, I could always rely on getting to and from work, that’s not possible anymore, so far my employers have been understanding about me being late for work because the bus just didn’t show up, but there’s a limit. So I decided to try and finally get driving lessons, there are zero instructors taking new students on at the moment, and I have been on waiting lists for months. It’s a bloody joke, but not a very funny one, I’m constantly anxious whether I’ll be able to get to and from work, I finish at 23:00 some evenings and always worry that my taxi won’t turn up and I’ll have to walk home 3 miles down dark country lanes, I’m lucky that mostly a kind colleague will give me a lift home, but I can’t rely on other people’s kindness all the time. People deserve better.
Wasn’t there a politician about as recently as 2019 who wanted to re-nationalise bus services in order to stop this happening? It’s a crying shame we got the Tories again 🙁
I’m a mile outside the town centre, the vast majority of the town is elderly and there’s one half-hourly bus that comes this way. Used to be three but they downsized because nobody was using them through the lockdowns.
One of the issues with running a service as a business, when run as a service the intent is to provide the best largest reaching service at the lowest price. Since its a service if part of the service earns a profit, those profits are used to prop up parts of the service that cost more to run than bring in.
When you run it as a business with profit being the key motivator the parts of the business that don’t make money are cut… that’s it.
So they want less people driving, but take away the buses.
Makes sense. 🤦♂️
The village I am in already has minimal public transport, you are lucky if a bus is going where you need it to every hour, no routes at all to get you to the hearest town before 9am and no busses at all on weekends. Plus no uber or other rideshare services in the area and the taxi companies charge through the teeth. Literally takes the best part of 2 hours to get to the nearest hospital by bus.
We just paid off the ww2 debt in 2020, where is all that cash now?
Ha they can’t axe my bus route cause …they already did… 2 years ago.
It’s only logical. Investing in society and general wellbeing has never brought shareholders anything. ^^/s
Any reduction in council services should be met by an appropriate reduction in the portion you elect to pay of their demands in council tax.
The biggest bus company in my area went into administration a few weeks back. A competitor has stepped in for a bit but most believe it will scale back services on routes that are less profitable, or cut them altogether. It will leave a lot of people reliant on cars or Uber to get about, costing them an arm and a leg in return.
Public transport is vital in tackling climate change. If the Tories were serious about tackling climate change then they would be doing their upmost to create more bus routes through a nationalised service. They are content with their mates and donors doing as they please instead, it is not like they are personally affected anyway.
>A group of four Labour metro mayors from northern England warned bus operators will cull some services without the Bus Service Recovery Grant, half of the routes will be affected in some way and many will lose all services after 7pm.
It does seem a bit of a weird one…
Technically, these bus services should be funded for the most part by way of ticket sales. Yes, sure, Covid screwed that up but that’s presumably why they got a Bus Service Recovery Grant.
But if ticket sales haven’t returned to similar levels then why not look at reducing the services? Less ticket sales = less customers, surely? And as much as I think it’s vital to have a core service, there’s no point having too many. There’s a reason why the ferry service in Liverpool isn’t run more frequently, for example, lol.
The trains are a fucking joke. Can’t wait till I get my car back from the Garage.
Government are trying to force people out of cars and onto public transport, but public transport is far too unreliable. People are being screwed left, right and centre
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People love to criticize car owners, but this is why a car is essential if you live outside of major transport routes.
Ffs why do they want to ruin everything. We could be building an amazing country but they all spend all day thinking up ways to destroy everything.
This is happening in Nottingham near my friend’s house.
They have a service 141 that goes through a few of the villages. It runs once an hour.
Over the past year or so Trent Barton have been cancelling the bus to provide a spare bus for their other, more profitable, bus routes.
Some people have stopped using it because they know they can’t rely on it actually turning up.
They’re now using the old “fewer people are using this route, so we’re going to cancel it” bullshit to remove the route entirely.
They’re also saying that it’s ok to cancel it as other bus routes will fill in the gaps, despite some of the smaller villages it goes through only have a very limited bus service.
There was a lot of complaints to the local council and now they’re keeping the route for another year while they conduct passenger surveys.
I live in Shropshire which I think is one of the most rural counties in England, if not the most rural.
I don’t drive so I rely on the bus to get me to work in a village 3 miles from town, they have already cut lots of services on this route, which is a very busy route as it covers a large hospital, which is a large local employer so staff and patients without the means to get there any other way use it, it also serves the nearest railway station, as there is no railway station in town, taxis are near impossible to get in this town, you either can’t get one, or many times you book and they either don’t turn up, or they can’t because they’re doing the school run!
So you go to get the bus, that’s become a lottery now as they often just don’t show up at all.
There’s other towns in the county worse off than this, one town, can’t remember which has had its bus services to the nearest larger town cut down to once a week, if you need to go say to hospital for an appointment or to visit someone and you don’t have a car, you’re basically screwed, it’s isolating for people and communities.
Im 40 and i never learned to drive, mainly because I never needed to before, I could always rely on getting to and from work, that’s not possible anymore, so far my employers have been understanding about me being late for work because the bus just didn’t show up, but there’s a limit. So I decided to try and finally get driving lessons, there are zero instructors taking new students on at the moment, and I have been on waiting lists for months. It’s a bloody joke, but not a very funny one, I’m constantly anxious whether I’ll be able to get to and from work, I finish at 23:00 some evenings and always worry that my taxi won’t turn up and I’ll have to walk home 3 miles down dark country lanes, I’m lucky that mostly a kind colleague will give me a lift home, but I can’t rely on other people’s kindness all the time. People deserve better.
Wasn’t there a politician about as recently as 2019 who wanted to re-nationalise bus services in order to stop this happening? It’s a crying shame we got the Tories again 🙁
I’m a mile outside the town centre, the vast majority of the town is elderly and there’s one half-hourly bus that comes this way. Used to be three but they downsized because nobody was using them through the lockdowns.
One of the issues with running a service as a business, when run as a service the intent is to provide the best largest reaching service at the lowest price. Since its a service if part of the service earns a profit, those profits are used to prop up parts of the service that cost more to run than bring in.
When you run it as a business with profit being the key motivator the parts of the business that don’t make money are cut… that’s it.
So they want less people driving, but take away the buses.
Makes sense. 🤦♂️
The village I am in already has minimal public transport, you are lucky if a bus is going where you need it to every hour, no routes at all to get you to the hearest town before 9am and no busses at all on weekends. Plus no uber or other rideshare services in the area and the taxi companies charge through the teeth. Literally takes the best part of 2 hours to get to the nearest hospital by bus.
We just paid off the ww2 debt in 2020, where is all that cash now?
Ha they can’t axe my bus route cause …they already did… 2 years ago.
It’s only logical. Investing in society and general wellbeing has never brought shareholders anything. ^^/s
Any reduction in council services should be met by an appropriate reduction in the portion you elect to pay of their demands in council tax.
The biggest bus company in my area went into administration a few weeks back. A competitor has stepped in for a bit but most believe it will scale back services on routes that are less profitable, or cut them altogether. It will leave a lot of people reliant on cars or Uber to get about, costing them an arm and a leg in return.
Public transport is vital in tackling climate change. If the Tories were serious about tackling climate change then they would be doing their upmost to create more bus routes through a nationalised service. They are content with their mates and donors doing as they please instead, it is not like they are personally affected anyway.
>A group of four Labour metro mayors from northern England warned bus operators will cull some services without the Bus Service Recovery Grant, half of the routes will be affected in some way and many will lose all services after 7pm.
It does seem a bit of a weird one…
Technically, these bus services should be funded for the most part by way of ticket sales. Yes, sure, Covid screwed that up but that’s presumably why they got a Bus Service Recovery Grant.
But if ticket sales haven’t returned to similar levels then why not look at reducing the services? Less ticket sales = less customers, surely? And as much as I think it’s vital to have a core service, there’s no point having too many. There’s a reason why the ferry service in Liverpool isn’t run more frequently, for example, lol.
The trains are a fucking joke. Can’t wait till I get my car back from the Garage.
Government are trying to force people out of cars and onto public transport, but public transport is far too unreliable. People are being screwed left, right and centre