Wat een naam is dat eigenlijk. Ik zat hier de hele tijd denken “Ja maar, WELKE Vlaamse energieleverancier?” Blijkt dat gewoon de naam van de leverancier te zijn, wut.
Translation (will update when article gets updated):
**Flemish Energy Supplier files for bankruptcy. The company that sells green power and gas in Flanders to individuals and companies has some 70,000 customers.**
The last few months electricity prices and especially gas prices have risen enormously. This applies not only to private individuals and companies, but also to energy suppliers who do not produce energy themselves, such as Vlaamse Energieleverancier.
Vlaamse Energieleverancier bought its electricity and gas on the short-term market, but has had to put a lot on the table for months. They were unable to pass on these higher purchase prices to their customers.
The company only became active in 2019 as a price breaker. The customers of Vlaamse Energieleverancier will now receive power through grid manager Fluvius until they have found a new supplier. The last bankruptcy in the energy market was Belpower in 2018.
Gvd en ikke stoefen met ons laag vast tarief…wa nu
Well…i can take another headache while I’m at it…time to go shopping for a replacement
Switchen not even a year ago because VREG test 😭
At what tarifs will fluvius charge the poor customers?
Chance dat ik nog maar één keer voorschot heb moeten betalen want zal wel gedoe zijn om die afrekening te krijgen. Iemand aanraders voor een andere leverancier? En zeg niet de de vreg test want daardoor zit ik in deze miserie 🙂
Shit. I’m with them as well.
But I might have an out.. *crosses fingers*
Tip: try to take a company that produces energy (Engie, Luminus, Fluvius…) and not only supplies it (Mega,…). All the small suppliers will get into trouble if these crazy rates continue.
If you want to be truly sure, you need to go with a company that actually produces energy, and not just resells. AFAIK that leaves just engie, eneco, and luminus (but I could be wrong here).
Don’t forget to cancel any direct debit (domiciliering)!
One more thing, don’t trust mijnenergie.be, that is just an advertisement vehicle from DPG media.
They were the supplier of the group purchase by the province of east flanders. So all those users will have to find an other supplier as well.
The article states that they will file for bankruptcy tomorrow (7dec). Those who are itchy to change supplier. If you do that too soon, there is a small chance they try to claim back a yearly discount if you change suppliers before they actually officially filed for bankruptcy.
Time to abolish fixed contracts?
It’s really annoying that every time you get an energy contract you have to bet on whether prices will rise or fall. If they rise, you’re screwed with a variable contract. If they fall, you’re screwed with a fixed contract. Especially because in the future, energy companies are going to price their fixed contracts a lot higher, now that they have seen the consequences of underpricing their fixed contracts.
Meanwhile, this fixed contract system shields the customers with a fixed contract from the consequences of their consumption, making the gas shortage even worse. While some people are unable to pay the extremely high gas prices, other people are heating their homes to 25 °C without issues, because they still enjoy really a really low price they subscribed to two years ago.
And then stuff like this happens: all of a sudden, a fixed contract, which you paid through the nose for when gas prices were lower, is suddenly worthless because the gas company goes bankrupt.
Sure, with the current system you can do a good deal by predicting energy prices and correctly judging the solvability of energy companies. But why should energy contracts be like playing the stock market? It’s insane. Just make fixed contracts illegal, have everyone pay a price that reflects the wholesale prices (so people will try to save energy when there’s a shortage), and finally do something about it so these prices aren’t this insanely high in the first place.
(Yes, I know I already posted this in the other thread about this but that one’s going to get deleted.)
Does anyone know what happens if you try to get your SEPA direct debit payments refunded after a company goes bankrupt? For a non-bankrupt company, you can just take that money back until three months later, and then it’s on them to try to get you to pay it again. I have no idea what happens when you try to do this in case of bankruptcy though.
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Wat een naam is dat eigenlijk. Ik zat hier de hele tijd denken “Ja maar, WELKE Vlaamse energieleverancier?” Blijkt dat gewoon de naam van de leverancier te zijn, wut.
Translation (will update when article gets updated):
**Flemish Energy Supplier files for bankruptcy. The company that sells green power and gas in Flanders to individuals and companies has some 70,000 customers.**
The last few months electricity prices and especially gas prices have risen enormously. This applies not only to private individuals and companies, but also to energy suppliers who do not produce energy themselves, such as Vlaamse Energieleverancier.
Vlaamse Energieleverancier bought its electricity and gas on the short-term market, but has had to put a lot on the table for months. They were unable to pass on these higher purchase prices to their customers.
The company only became active in 2019 as a price breaker. The customers of Vlaamse Energieleverancier will now receive power through grid manager Fluvius until they have found a new supplier. The last bankruptcy in the energy market was Belpower in 2018.
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Gvd en ikke stoefen met ons laag vast tarief…wa nu
Well…i can take another headache while I’m at it…time to go shopping for a replacement
Switchen not even a year ago because VREG test 😭
At what tarifs will fluvius charge the poor customers?
Chance dat ik nog maar één keer voorschot heb moeten betalen want zal wel gedoe zijn om die afrekening te krijgen. Iemand aanraders voor een andere leverancier? En zeg niet de de vreg test want daardoor zit ik in deze miserie 🙂
Shit. I’m with them as well.
But I might have an out.. *crosses fingers*
Tip: try to take a company that produces energy (Engie, Luminus, Fluvius…) and not only supplies it (Mega,…). All the small suppliers will get into trouble if these crazy rates continue.
So yeah, do the VREG test (vtest.vreg.be). Compare, properly check the conditions. Check here as well on how big the company is: https://www.vreg.be/sites/default/files/statistieken/marktaandelen/20210701-e-martkaandeel_maandelijks_netbeheerderds_h_plus_nh.pdf
If you want to be truly sure, you need to go with a company that actually produces energy, and not just resells. AFAIK that leaves just engie, eneco, and luminus (but I could be wrong here).
Don’t forget to cancel any direct debit (domiciliering)!
One more thing, don’t trust mijnenergie.be, that is just an advertisement vehicle from DPG media.
They were the supplier of the group purchase by the province of east flanders. So all those users will have to find an other supplier as well.
The article states that they will file for bankruptcy tomorrow (7dec). Those who are itchy to change supplier. If you do that too soon, there is a small chance they try to claim back a yearly discount if you change suppliers before they actually officially filed for bankruptcy.
Time to abolish fixed contracts?
It’s really annoying that every time you get an energy contract you have to bet on whether prices will rise or fall. If they rise, you’re screwed with a variable contract. If they fall, you’re screwed with a fixed contract. Especially because in the future, energy companies are going to price their fixed contracts a lot higher, now that they have seen the consequences of underpricing their fixed contracts.
Meanwhile, this fixed contract system shields the customers with a fixed contract from the consequences of their consumption, making the gas shortage even worse. While some people are unable to pay the extremely high gas prices, other people are heating their homes to 25 °C without issues, because they still enjoy really a really low price they subscribed to two years ago.
And then stuff like this happens: all of a sudden, a fixed contract, which you paid through the nose for when gas prices were lower, is suddenly worthless because the gas company goes bankrupt.
Sure, with the current system you can do a good deal by predicting energy prices and correctly judging the solvability of energy companies. But why should energy contracts be like playing the stock market? It’s insane. Just make fixed contracts illegal, have everyone pay a price that reflects the wholesale prices (so people will try to save energy when there’s a shortage), and finally do something about it so these prices aren’t this insanely high in the first place.
(Yes, I know I already posted this in the other thread about this but that one’s going to get deleted.)
Does anyone know what happens if you try to get your SEPA direct debit payments refunded after a company goes bankrupt? For a non-bankrupt company, you can just take that money back until three months later, and then it’s on them to try to get you to pay it again. I have no idea what happens when you try to do this in case of bankruptcy though.