Today I read about a question Şener Levent asked the leaders of the ‘Center’ (endiamesos horos) in 2016, at a time when the negotiations were still alive and solution was still possible. If this is true..wow
Today I read about a question Şener Levent asked the leaders of the ‘Center’ (endiamesos horos) in 2016, at a time when the negotiations were still alive and solution was still possible. If this is true..wow
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I heard a similar story which focused only on the fact that they sung their national anthem and Sener found it weird (and he was right). Never heard of the question.
The fact that all the g/c parties which are against political equality are helleno/ethnocentric is no coinsidence. They are not against it because it s “racist”, “undemocratic” or “a long ago well formulated plan to make the island turkish”. They are against it because their community will lose political power. They are not cypriotist that simply (and stupidly) ignore the fact of bicommunalism, or that cypriotism is a process and not an all or nothing deal. They are greek nationalists who prefer a fully greek south in total alignment with Athens, rather than a reunited island which stays out of greco-turkish problems.
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A two-state federation is one thing and a bi-communal federation is another thing. Any reference to a solution with bi-communalism embedded in the constitution is just an excuse at a racist solution. This does not imply that there should be no protection against discrimination, but this is time when discrimination is not acceptable, not due to national origin, language or religion. Say no to a new apartheid. Unless of course you wish to be a citizen in a country which separates its citizens based on the above.
I am not sure how the question relates to the Greek national anthem. BBF has many other issues apart from the ones mentioned in the question. What about vetoes or “positive vote” on everything, what about the Settlers, what about the properties of refugees etc etc.
The following question would be more relevant:
*Lets say that TCs accepted to be equal Cypriots without gains on the expense of GCs, in a normal democracy with one person/one vote, and no division of the island into “Greek” and “Turkish” parts. Would you accept to have a Cypriot national anthemn?*
I am sure the answer to that question would be “yes” by all of them.
What does equal as a community mean? Equal opportunities, rights, obligations or equal as one vote for each community instead of one vote for each citizen?
Any of you who have spend significant time abroad, what would the people of those countries say if you recommended bi-communalism or tri- or whatever communalism for them? And how would that perpetuate conflict instead of unity.
Let’s try the USA: white, black and l latino, or catholic, protestant, evangelical and baptist communities.
UK: protestants, catholics and atheist.
Oh, by the way don’t bother to say I missed some, because that’s not allowed under BBF, you are either Greek or Turk, and anyone who emigrated from abroad has to choose one of the two, and the representatives of that community have the right to accept or decline their membership into that community.
Should I bother ask about Turkiye? Sunni, Shia, Alev, Kurds. But of course every Turk always says it’s not relevant to Turkiye.
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Thanks to everyone participated in this conversation. This is really good quality content. I have learned a lot.
Haven’t read the rest of the comments just yet, but before I do let me chime in and say that this became an issue in public discourse when Levent wrote and those party leaders never commented on it even to deny.