At first it looked too off, but the more i look at it the better it gets.
I dig it!
too much red
The horse looks pissed off with the rider. Like he cheated on him or something.
I personally am not a fan of European countries that are not monarchies with a flag that include an emblem.
Otherwise, with the current design, I’d prefer it with yellow on the outside and red on the inside.
Vexillographical principals of design would suggest that this is too complex, as coat of arms should be avoided within flags. Take a stamp sized piece of paper and try to draw it there, or imagine you’re a 3 year old kid trying to draw a flag.
Anyway it’s a fun exercise trying to redesign a flag, but have a look into principles of design of flags
Our existing official flag would have been better background for the emblem.
bad.
Flag is Yellow Green and Red. Not something what happened when cat puked
Unnecesseraly complicated
Looks like a Gucci design, but with collab w/ Lithuania
Failing grade in art class. Too complicated in center yet unbalanced colors (too much red) makes the rest not complicated enough generic “dark”; red-green-yellow do not have enough contrast at that size as opposed to bold white on red in center, so the middle stripes end up pointless.
First of all, the red and the red but with a black frame look bad. The yellow in the original flag stands for the sun, so the lack of it here is understandable, lol. However, I cannot forgive the crime of putting so little green. If it’s a modern re-take on a flag created when emphasizing the blood spilt for freedom (the red) was an important factor in keeping unity among people, then a modern one (imo) should be focused more on the green, which Lithuanians pride themselves on so much nowadays, and the red should be used in moderation: as an acknowledgment of struggle for freedom and to distance the country from its Soviet past.
Trash
The existing flag in the background would be better, you could try that in the future
Why change what is?
Right…
The original tricolor design is just so pure, so simple, so beloved, with symbolism so engrained… that anyone will have an up hill battle with a new design proposal.
By all accounts Lithuanian tricolor is a well designed flag. Also, as an added bonus, the tricolor, fits well in the context of the 3 archetipical brothers of The Baltic: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.
That said… explorations of a new design and/or layout should not be off limits.
There is at least one aspect the Lithuanian flag could do better in and that’s — uniqueness.
There’re at least 2 other flags in the world that share thesame three colours (Yellow, Green, Red) and layout (horizontal tricolor). And, while, the exact shades of the colours and the proportions between the flags are different, for all practical purposes Ærø, Bolívar and Lithuania have the same flag.
This design has uniqueness, but overall it’s not a good one.
Coat of arms on a flag might be passable on a city level flags (although, it’s still a bad practice), but on a national level, it’s… a really bad practice.
By doing so you take away from the functionality and ease of use of the flag (I.e. visual simplicity aids reproduction).
In this particular case:
1. we are adding 3 extra colors to the design (blue, white and black),
2. making the layout more complicated (by making 5 stripes out of 3) and
3. the complexity of coat of arms makes this design impossible to replicate for an average person in a short amount of time.
Now… on the flip side of visuals we have symbolism.
I’m not a history buff and I have never spent much time reasearhing these matters, but since I was a kid I was taught that the meaning behind the tricolor was thus:
Yellow — The Sun and prosperity.
Green — The greenery of Lithuanian forests and Hope.
Red — The blood of the people.
And till this day I believe these colors represent well what Lithuania was, is and can be.
I’m a strong believer of telling a story with design. A narrative helps to ground the design, explain the choices made and create meaning instead of just making things that look pretty.
Pretty ≠ good design.
So, when I look at this design I ask myself: “what story does it tell?”
A sliver of the Sun (prosperity) surrounded with a sliver of the Greenery and Hope… drowing in blood, spearheded by Vytis ready for war.
Now, this could be a story, we as a nation, want to tell to the world about us, but I personally, don’t believe it fits us.
For starters, Vytis.
While an important historically figure, culturally not that much.
Like… growing up as a kid in Lithuania, I have never admired Vytis nor did I hear my friends or other people admire him. Granted this is anecdotal, but the main reason I know him, is that during his time Lithuania occupied the largest geographical area in our countries history. That’s it.
Sure there’s more historical significance to him, but in the cultural phsyche, I don’t believe Vytis is any more imporantant than the one and only king Mindaugas or the grand Duke Gediminas.
Next, the colour Red.
I mean, not to neglect the bloodshed we had throughout our history defending our freedom but…
I don’t see us, Lithuanians, being defined by that. It is relevant historically, yes, but not so much to make it the focal point of our identity.
Also, that much red still reminds us of the last occupation. And that definitely is not a good thing.
The colour green.
I do agree with other’s here, that the colour green (forest and the hope) is the most dear to our hearts.
Geographically we live in the Green are of Europe and Lithuanians seem to be proud of the greenery in our country. Also, without that Hope historically we would’ve never been so fierce to get our freedom.
As a nation we are of a small stature (geographically, economically, etc…) so idea of Hope, I believe, suit us well.
And finally, the colour yellow.
While I believe the red and the green colours are quite enough to represent Lithuania (fyi historically colour yellow was introduced the last to the current design), yellow and more importantly it’s meaning of “prosperity” is an uplifting notion to incorporate.
The question is then how important is this colour? I think, it’s more important than the red but not as much as green.
Anyway… after spending half a day thinking about it and trying my own variations of the layout, the only meaningful change I see that could be made in the current Lithuanian flag design is shifting the proportions of the 3 colour stripes in the order of importance (green, yellow, red).
I guess, the conclusion here is that we have a pretty well designed flag.
isore vycio geltona zalia, tada bus gerai
Too hard to draw at school 😀
Ne.
Why does it have to include those colours tho? “Presidential” flag is good enough as it could be.
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At first it looked too off, but the more i look at it the better it gets.
I dig it!
too much red
The horse looks pissed off with the rider. Like he cheated on him or something.
I personally am not a fan of European countries that are not monarchies with a flag that include an emblem.
Otherwise, with the current design, I’d prefer it with yellow on the outside and red on the inside.
Vexillographical principals of design would suggest that this is too complex, as coat of arms should be avoided within flags. Take a stamp sized piece of paper and try to draw it there, or imagine you’re a 3 year old kid trying to draw a flag.
Anyway it’s a fun exercise trying to redesign a flag, but have a look into principles of design of flags
Our existing official flag would have been better background for the emblem.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BalticStates/comments/mgfmvu/if_the_baltic_states_had_nordic_flags/
Nope, red is out of place. Green should be the main color. Here’s the [example](https://www.reddit.com/r/lithuania/comments/tnjw20/nordiška_lietuvos_vėliava/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Too much red. We’re not communist idiots
Lmfao gucci
bad.
Flag is Yellow Green and Red. Not something what happened when cat puked
Unnecesseraly complicated
Looks like a Gucci design, but with collab w/ Lithuania
Failing grade in art class. Too complicated in center yet unbalanced colors (too much red) makes the rest not complicated enough generic “dark”; red-green-yellow do not have enough contrast at that size as opposed to bold white on red in center, so the middle stripes end up pointless.
First of all, the red and the red but with a black frame look bad. The yellow in the original flag stands for the sun, so the lack of it here is understandable, lol. However, I cannot forgive the crime of putting so little green. If it’s a modern re-take on a flag created when emphasizing the blood spilt for freedom (the red) was an important factor in keeping unity among people, then a modern one (imo) should be focused more on the green, which Lithuanians pride themselves on so much nowadays, and the red should be used in moderation: as an acknowledgment of struggle for freedom and to distance the country from its Soviet past.
Trash
The existing flag in the background would be better, you could try that in the future
Why change what is?
Right…
The original tricolor design is just so pure, so simple, so beloved, with symbolism so engrained… that anyone will have an up hill battle with a new design proposal.
By all accounts Lithuanian tricolor is a well designed flag. Also, as an added bonus, the tricolor, fits well in the context of the 3 archetipical brothers of The Baltic: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania.
That said… explorations of a new design and/or layout should not be off limits.
There is at least one aspect the Lithuanian flag could do better in and that’s — uniqueness.
There’re at least 2 other flags in the world that share thesame three colours (Yellow, Green, Red) and layout (horizontal tricolor). And, while, the exact shades of the colours and the proportions between the flags are different, for all practical purposes Ærø, Bolívar and Lithuania have the same flag.
This design has uniqueness, but overall it’s not a good one.
Coat of arms on a flag might be passable on a city level flags (although, it’s still a bad practice), but on a national level, it’s… a really bad practice.
By doing so you take away from the functionality and ease of use of the flag (I.e. visual simplicity aids reproduction).
In this particular case:
1. we are adding 3 extra colors to the design (blue, white and black),
2. making the layout more complicated (by making 5 stripes out of 3) and
3. the complexity of coat of arms makes this design impossible to replicate for an average person in a short amount of time.
Now… on the flip side of visuals we have symbolism.
I’m not a history buff and I have never spent much time reasearhing these matters, but since I was a kid I was taught that the meaning behind the tricolor was thus:
Yellow — The Sun and prosperity.
Green — The greenery of Lithuanian forests and Hope.
Red — The blood of the people.
And till this day I believe these colors represent well what Lithuania was, is and can be.
I’m a strong believer of telling a story with design. A narrative helps to ground the design, explain the choices made and create meaning instead of just making things that look pretty.
Pretty ≠ good design.
So, when I look at this design I ask myself: “what story does it tell?”
A sliver of the Sun (prosperity) surrounded with a sliver of the Greenery and Hope… drowing in blood, spearheded by Vytis ready for war.
Now, this could be a story, we as a nation, want to tell to the world about us, but I personally, don’t believe it fits us.
For starters, Vytis.
While an important historically figure, culturally not that much.
Like… growing up as a kid in Lithuania, I have never admired Vytis nor did I hear my friends or other people admire him. Granted this is anecdotal, but the main reason I know him, is that during his time Lithuania occupied the largest geographical area in our countries history. That’s it.
Sure there’s more historical significance to him, but in the cultural phsyche, I don’t believe Vytis is any more imporantant than the one and only king Mindaugas or the grand Duke Gediminas.
Next, the colour Red.
I mean, not to neglect the bloodshed we had throughout our history defending our freedom but…
I don’t see us, Lithuanians, being defined by that. It is relevant historically, yes, but not so much to make it the focal point of our identity.
Also, that much red still reminds us of the last occupation. And that definitely is not a good thing.
The colour green.
I do agree with other’s here, that the colour green (forest and the hope) is the most dear to our hearts.
Geographically we live in the Green are of Europe and Lithuanians seem to be proud of the greenery in our country. Also, without that Hope historically we would’ve never been so fierce to get our freedom.
As a nation we are of a small stature (geographically, economically, etc…) so idea of Hope, I believe, suit us well.
And finally, the colour yellow.
While I believe the red and the green colours are quite enough to represent Lithuania (fyi historically colour yellow was introduced the last to the current design), yellow and more importantly it’s meaning of “prosperity” is an uplifting notion to incorporate.
The question is then how important is this colour? I think, it’s more important than the red but not as much as green.
Anyway… after spending half a day thinking about it and trying my own variations of the layout, the only meaningful change I see that could be made in the current Lithuanian flag design is shifting the proportions of the 3 colour stripes in the order of importance (green, yellow, red).
I guess, the conclusion here is that we have a pretty well designed flag.
isore vycio geltona zalia, tada bus gerai
Too hard to draw at school 😀
Ne.
Why does it have to include those colours tho? “Presidential” flag is good enough as it could be.