i was wondering if these 2 stroke bicycle conversion kits are legal in der schweiz, im wanna buy one but i got no idea what the situation is with these, anyone know of anything regarding to rukes or laws with this kind of stuff? danke 🙂

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  1. As much as I doubt they are legal, even if they are, they’re usually extremely low quality (and loud as fuck)

  2. I’d say no. Maybe you’d be able to do something like an “Einzelabnahme” and register it as a moped but I highly doubt it. If I were you, I’d invest either in an e-bike or a Töffli.

  4. Idk if legal or not but i dont think it is,

    Having that on a bike makes you a vehicule so no more riding out of road, full helmet, driving license and yellow plate like a moped.

    2 stroke engine is basically consuming fuel + oil… so even more hassle than a scooter.

    I see two choice here:

    • Buy a ebike so you dont disturb people with shitty noises.
    • buy a moped and dont bother with all the problem you are making yourself.

  6. In South Florida, they’re everywhere. And like a previous poster said, the engines are loud as f#ck, even louder than the mopeds that I see a lot of Swiss teens riding. One could hear one coming from two km’s away. There’s no way that I could see these getting a pass in Switzerland.

  8. This won’t be much more than a fun project, ride it twice and it’s either broken or „Azeig esch dusse“ from your friendly bünzli neighbours.

    It’s a money pit, no way you‘re gonna use this as a transportation device.

    If you just wanna wrench on some stuff, heck yeah go for it.

  10. Isn’t this just so outdated? (You could say ‘boomer’-like). E-motorbikes with fat tires seem to be the thing if the moment

  11. Go see the cops, they will tell you .probably you need to check your bike with authorities for a prototype permit.

  12. You’re basically turning it into a “Mofa,” which are obviously legal here. But it could be that because it’s *not* a “Mofa,” but a modded bike, it would be illegal. But if it’s not, you’ll most likely have to abide by those laws. So license plate, etc. So it might be worth checking out.

  13. Wouldn’t it be easyer, cheaper and more reliable to buy directly a motorbike « es töffli » like the Swiss say? (And what about environment ?)

  14. I am with the poster. A Töffli totally ruins the dignity of the driver, much better a mince machine on gasoline

  15. Looks to me like you already decide that you are going to buy one (or at least want one) since you are disregarding each and every valid point other Redditors make. For me it is clear as daylight that those kits are illegaly and won’t get a pass at your local Strassenverkehrsamt?

  16. a guy from work bought a „vespa“ from china via some special offer. he had to show it to the „motorfahrzeugkontrolle“ and they had like 2 pages of thing he needs to change before he is allowed to drive it on the streets. i think all in all it would have cost him more then a real vespa…i think he just put it in the garage and never used it…

  20. Technically, you could register this as a Motorfahrrad. Requires “Typenprüfung”, which will only be possible through an expensive ” Einzelabnahme”, which it will mlst likely not pass. Requires category M to drive (which you can have at 14, and is already included in car/motorcycle licenses). Requires cheap insurance and a yellow plate. Goes 30 km/h.

    I would advise you to buy an electric conversion kit. Similar price ranges, especially on aliexpress. Then it classifies as “Elektro Motorfahrrad”. Same rules apply. If you stay below 25 km/h and 500W power, it classifies as an “Elektro Leichtmotorfahrrad”, which requires adherance to the laws and regulations, but no “Typenprüfung”, no insurance, no plates, no license (if you’re above 16, otherwise cat M). It’s basically a normal bicycle.

    A note about consequences if you do it wrong: if you go over 25km/h or over 500W, it’s suddenly a Motorfahrrad or even a big Motorrad, that is unregistered, didn’t pass MFK, uninsured, and you’re driving it without a drivers license. Equals a fuck ton of trouble and a quite expensive fine and court costs. Buy an electric conversion kit, stay below 500W and 25km/h and you’ll be fine, otherwise you’ll be fucked!

    (PS: If you want a strange looking electric bicycle, I’d sell you mine for 500.-, otherwise I’ll just put it on Ricardo.)

  23. You’ll have to get it through StVA. I imagine this to be very painful if the manufacturer hasn’t already done some work in that direction.

  24. No way that’s legal in Switzerland 😀 You’d need to get it registered and no way they’d register some modified bicycle. The structure wasn’t made to withhold such power.

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