For people who don’t know what Democide means: Democide is a concept proposed by U.S. political scientist Rudolph Rummel to describe “the intentional killing of an unarmed or disarmed person by government agents acting in their authoritative capacity and pursuant to government policy or high command.”
> The table first lists the various major genocides carried out by the Nazis and the numbers likely murdered: 16,315,000 victims overall. Then is shown the 11,283,000 people the Nazis killed through institutional practices, such as forced “euthanasia,” forced labor, and the processing of prisoners of war; or in Nazi institutions, particularly prisoner of war and concentration or death camps. Much of this institutionalized killing was pursuant to one Nazi democide program or another, and the totals therefore overlap with those for genocide. Finally, the table lists those occupied nations that suffered democide. Clearly the Soviet Union and then Poland endured the most.
> Shown at the bottom of the table is the number of civilians and military killed in the war, presumably exclusive of democide. In total, the war killed 28,736,000 Europeans, a fantastic number. But the democide of Hitler alone adds 20,946,000 more. Were Stalin’s democide during the war of 13,053,000 people to be included, the number of people murdered by just the Nazis and Soviets alone would exceed the total European war-dead.
> When we think of Nazi killing, genocide immediately comes to mind, particularly that of “6,000,00 Jews.” But they also murdered for reasons other than race or religion. For one, the Nazis slew those who opposed or hindered them, whether actually or potentially. This was why Hitler assassinated hundreds of top Nazi SA’s (Sturmabteilung) in June and July 1934, who under Ernst Rohm were becoming a strong competitor to the SS (Schutzstaffel); or executed perhaps 5,000 Germans after the 1944 plot on his life and attempted coup d’etat. Indeed, it is why critics, pacifists, conscientious objectors, campus rebels, dissidents, and others throughout the twelve-year history of the regime in Germany, were executed, disappeared, or slowly died in concentration camps. The Nazis thus killed some 288,000 Germans, not counting Jews, homosexuals, and those forcibly “euthanized.” If these are included, then the Nazis murdered at least 498,000 Germans, probably 762,000.
> If one includes the 5,200,000 German civilian and military war-dead, the average German’s likelihood of dying from the regime was slightly better than one out of eleven–extremely low odds for a life.
> As high as this human cost of the Nazis was for the Germans, it was higher for the countries they invaded and occupied, particularly in the East. Not only did the Nazis eliminate actual critics and opponents as a matter of course, but they also prevented any serious potential opposition by simply exterminating the top leadership, intellectuals, and professionals. Besides Jews, the Germans murdered near 2,400,000 Poles, 3,000,000 Ukrainians, 1,593,000 Russians, and 1,400,000 Byelorussians, many of these among the best and the brightest men and women. The Nazis killed in cold blood nearly one out of every six Polish or Soviet citizens, including Jews, under their rule.
> Moreover, the Nazis murdered as an administrative device. They used terror and mass reprisals to maintain their control, prevent sabotage, and safeguard their soldiers. For the partisans or underground to kill a German soldier could mean that the Nazis would round up and execute all the men in a nearby village, burn the village to the ground, and send all the women and children off to concentration camps. In retaliation for sabotage, they would shoot dozens and even hundreds of hostages.
> But many other regimes have also killed opponents and critics, or used reprisals to maintain power. What distinguished the Nazis above virtually all others was their staggering genocide: people were machine gunned in batches, shot in the head at the edge of trenches, burned alive while crowded into churches, gassed in vans or fake shower rooms, starved or frozen to death, worked to death in camps, or beaten or tortured to death simply because of their race, religion, handicap, or sexual preference.
> Most Nazis were absolute racists, especially among the top echelon; they believed utterly in the superiority of the “Aryan” race. They had no doubt that they were the pinnacle of racial evolution, that eugenically they were the best. So science proved, as many German and non-German scientists told them. And therefore they could not allow inferior groups to pollute their racial strain. Inferior races were like diseased appendixes that had to be surgically removed for the health of the body. Therefore they must exterminate the Jew and Gypsy. So also must they liquidate the homosexual and handicapped. So eventually they must also eliminate the Slavs, after exploiting their slave labor. Slavs were not only biologically inferior, but also inhabited territory that Germany needed for the superior race to expand and grow.
> But then the Nazi program ran into the problem of numbers. Exterminating millions of Jews would be hard enough. But the Slavs numbered in the tens of millions. Therefore they envisioned a two-part approach: reduce their number through execution, starvation, and disease. And then after the war that the Nazis would of course win, deport the remaining 30,000,000 or 40,000,000 Slavs to Siberia.
> These genocides cost the lives of probably 16,315,000 people. Most likely the Nazis wiped out 5,291,000 Jews, 258,000 Gypsies, 10,547,000 Slavs, and 220,000 homosexuals. They also “euthanized” 173,500 handicapped Germans. Then in repression, terrorism, reprisals, and other cold-blooded killings done to impose and maintain their rule throughout Europe, the Nazis murdered more millions including French, Dutch, Serbs, Slovenes, Czechs, and others. In total, they likely annihilated 20,946,000 human beings
Thought it was a recepit and did not understand immediatly
The majority of German war criminals were never brought to justice. Even prisoners of war were released. If soldiers actually faced consequences, we’d have a lot less conflict now.
Denmark of them all were the luckiest bunch.
*sad Slavic noises*
>Baltic States
Why not present data separately for sovereign states? You’ve even got Luxembourg separated…
I would like to show this every time a Eastern European Neo Nazi appears.
Edit: instantly downvoted, I may have rustled some Nazis jimmies.
When I was kid, both of my neighbours(Slovak and Catholic) were concentration camp survivors.
Wonder what today’s population would be if WW2 had never happened.
No to wars 😔😔
How comes Holocaust remembrance focuses so heavily on Jewish deaths when Slavic people were killed in much higher numbers?
Most people get their knowledge of ww2 from Hollywood. Which consists of “that time long ago when Hitler killed the jews”. Nothing more.
Only Jews are remembered
Hot take here: Nazis are bad
Why only eastern Slavs are counted as genocided? What a total bullshit 🙁 sad to read that crap.
**29 million** USSR citizens died in that war but we only remember 6 million jews. Sad.
Where’s the VAT?
This reminds me of a YouTube video titled: “the Fallen of WW II”.
Really puts the war into perspective when it comes to combat anyway.
I read in a book that in camps was harder for slavs compared to jews. And now this data came across…
When the germans kill 23 million – hahahh, time to crack a joke!!!
when the soviets shoot back at the germany army – THIS IS A TRAVESTY AND MUST NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
You don’t even realize how far reaching the consequences are even years later, growing up in 1990s Poland, practically everyone had a grandparent or grandmother who died during the war, so almost everyone had a parent who grew up with one parent who was often traumatized by the war.
I kind of feel bad for Poland. They were wedged between the Nazis and the Communists in the 1930’s, which was probably the absolute worst spot to be in when WW2 broke out in Europe. And they still get treated like lesser people judging by many comments on various threads. Just my opinion but they’ve been through a lot.
Sorry i might seem dumb what what is democide?
Is it correct to call homosexual deaths a genocide?
Imagine going to Lidl and this is what the receipt machine spits out.
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Source:
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM#4
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE3.HTM
Under Table1.1
For people who don’t know what Democide means: Democide is a concept proposed by U.S. political scientist Rudolph Rummel to describe “the intentional killing of an unarmed or disarmed person by government agents acting in their authoritative capacity and pursuant to government policy or high command.”
> The table first lists the various major genocides carried out by the Nazis and the numbers likely murdered: 16,315,000 victims overall. Then is shown the 11,283,000 people the Nazis killed through institutional practices, such as forced “euthanasia,” forced labor, and the processing of prisoners of war; or in Nazi institutions, particularly prisoner of war and concentration or death camps. Much of this institutionalized killing was pursuant to one Nazi democide program or another, and the totals therefore overlap with those for genocide. Finally, the table lists those occupied nations that suffered democide. Clearly the Soviet Union and then Poland endured the most.
> Shown at the bottom of the table is the number of civilians and military killed in the war, presumably exclusive of democide. In total, the war killed 28,736,000 Europeans, a fantastic number. But the democide of Hitler alone adds 20,946,000 more. Were Stalin’s democide during the war of 13,053,000 people to be included, the number of people murdered by just the Nazis and Soviets alone would exceed the total European war-dead.
> When we think of Nazi killing, genocide immediately comes to mind, particularly that of “6,000,00 Jews.” But they also murdered for reasons other than race or religion. For one, the Nazis slew those who opposed or hindered them, whether actually or potentially. This was why Hitler assassinated hundreds of top Nazi SA’s (Sturmabteilung) in June and July 1934, who under Ernst Rohm were becoming a strong competitor to the SS (Schutzstaffel); or executed perhaps 5,000 Germans after the 1944 plot on his life and attempted coup d’etat. Indeed, it is why critics, pacifists, conscientious objectors, campus rebels, dissidents, and others throughout the twelve-year history of the regime in Germany, were executed, disappeared, or slowly died in concentration camps. The Nazis thus killed some 288,000 Germans, not counting Jews, homosexuals, and those forcibly “euthanized.” If these are included, then the Nazis murdered at least 498,000 Germans, probably 762,000.
> If one includes the 5,200,000 German civilian and military war-dead, the average German’s likelihood of dying from the regime was slightly better than one out of eleven–extremely low odds for a life.
> As high as this human cost of the Nazis was for the Germans, it was higher for the countries they invaded and occupied, particularly in the East. Not only did the Nazis eliminate actual critics and opponents as a matter of course, but they also prevented any serious potential opposition by simply exterminating the top leadership, intellectuals, and professionals. Besides Jews, the Germans murdered near 2,400,000 Poles, 3,000,000 Ukrainians, 1,593,000 Russians, and 1,400,000 Byelorussians, many of these among the best and the brightest men and women. The Nazis killed in cold blood nearly one out of every six Polish or Soviet citizens, including Jews, under their rule.
> Moreover, the Nazis murdered as an administrative device. They used terror and mass reprisals to maintain their control, prevent sabotage, and safeguard their soldiers. For the partisans or underground to kill a German soldier could mean that the Nazis would round up and execute all the men in a nearby village, burn the village to the ground, and send all the women and children off to concentration camps. In retaliation for sabotage, they would shoot dozens and even hundreds of hostages.
> But many other regimes have also killed opponents and critics, or used reprisals to maintain power. What distinguished the Nazis above virtually all others was their staggering genocide: people were machine gunned in batches, shot in the head at the edge of trenches, burned alive while crowded into churches, gassed in vans or fake shower rooms, starved or frozen to death, worked to death in camps, or beaten or tortured to death simply because of their race, religion, handicap, or sexual preference.
> Most Nazis were absolute racists, especially among the top echelon; they believed utterly in the superiority of the “Aryan” race. They had no doubt that they were the pinnacle of racial evolution, that eugenically they were the best. So science proved, as many German and non-German scientists told them. And therefore they could not allow inferior groups to pollute their racial strain. Inferior races were like diseased appendixes that had to be surgically removed for the health of the body. Therefore they must exterminate the Jew and Gypsy. So also must they liquidate the homosexual and handicapped. So eventually they must also eliminate the Slavs, after exploiting their slave labor. Slavs were not only biologically inferior, but also inhabited territory that Germany needed for the superior race to expand and grow.
> But then the Nazi program ran into the problem of numbers. Exterminating millions of Jews would be hard enough. But the Slavs numbered in the tens of millions. Therefore they envisioned a two-part approach: reduce their number through execution, starvation, and disease. And then after the war that the Nazis would of course win, deport the remaining 30,000,000 or 40,000,000 Slavs to Siberia.
> These genocides cost the lives of probably 16,315,000 people. Most likely the Nazis wiped out 5,291,000 Jews, 258,000 Gypsies, 10,547,000 Slavs, and 220,000 homosexuals. They also “euthanized” 173,500 handicapped Germans. Then in repression, terrorism, reprisals, and other cold-blooded killings done to impose and maintain their rule throughout Europe, the Nazis murdered more millions including French, Dutch, Serbs, Slovenes, Czechs, and others. In total, they likely annihilated 20,946,000 human beings
Thought it was a recepit and did not understand immediatly
The majority of German war criminals were never brought to justice. Even prisoners of war were released. If soldiers actually faced consequences, we’d have a lot less conflict now.
Denmark of them all were the luckiest bunch.
*sad Slavic noises*
>Baltic States
Why not present data separately for sovereign states? You’ve even got Luxembourg separated…
I would like to show this every time a Eastern European Neo Nazi appears.
Edit: instantly downvoted, I may have rustled some Nazis jimmies.
When I was kid, both of my neighbours(Slovak and Catholic) were concentration camp survivors.
Wonder what today’s population would be if WW2 had never happened.
No to wars 😔😔
How comes Holocaust remembrance focuses so heavily on Jewish deaths when Slavic people were killed in much higher numbers?
Most people get their knowledge of ww2 from Hollywood. Which consists of “that time long ago when Hitler killed the jews”. Nothing more.
Only Jews are remembered
Hot take here: Nazis are bad
Why only eastern Slavs are counted as genocided? What a total bullshit 🙁 sad to read that crap.
**29 million** USSR citizens died in that war but we only remember 6 million jews. Sad.
Where’s the VAT?
This reminds me of a YouTube video titled: “the Fallen of WW II”.
Really puts the war into perspective when it comes to combat anyway.
I read in a book that in camps was harder for slavs compared to jews. And now this data came across…
When the germans kill 23 million – hahahh, time to crack a joke!!!
when the soviets shoot back at the germany army – THIS IS A TRAVESTY AND MUST NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
You don’t even realize how far reaching the consequences are even years later, growing up in 1990s Poland, practically everyone had a grandparent or grandmother who died during the war, so almost everyone had a parent who grew up with one parent who was often traumatized by the war.
I kind of feel bad for Poland. They were wedged between the Nazis and the Communists in the 1930’s, which was probably the absolute worst spot to be in when WW2 broke out in Europe. And they still get treated like lesser people judging by many comments on various threads. Just my opinion but they’ve been through a lot.
Sorry i might seem dumb what what is democide?
Is it correct to call homosexual deaths a genocide?
Imagine going to Lidl and this is what the receipt machine spits out.