So because a third of the parents are Christian they have to keep it up ? Talk about minority rule. Fuck it all right off.
Religious assemblies and Faith schools in general need banning. Faith/religion should be something taught at home or through the church.
A kids nowadays don’t need all that crap, concentrate on learning, social skills etc. Take all religions (except broad church religious studies) out of there for good.
Assemblies have to be “of a broadly Christian character”. There’s a lot of wiggle room there if you don’t want literal bible surmons.
The law 100% should be changed, instantly, but it’s not quite as restrictive as it sounds at first glance.
Seems rather straightforward to solve.
Encourage parents to take the option that their children can opt out of the religious part of the assembly.
The school then organises the assembly so that the first half has the important inclusive stuff that everyone attends, then almost everybody leaves and the assembly continues into the religious section with nobody but the actual believers left.
I always hated this shit when I was at school and would refuse to stand for the prayers.
I had various form tutors over the years though and none of them ever pulled me aside for it and I left school in 97. So there’s that.
> In a meeting in July, Hampshire County Council’s SACRE denied the school’s application for exemption, judging the requirements on the character of collective worship to be appropriate because a third of parents identify as Christian.
What utterly bizarre reasoning to deny this request, also, why is it up to these fuckers?
> Just under half the SACRE’s members are appointed as representatives of religious denominations.
What the fuck???
No religious assembles I would support but just swapping the Christian ones out for another religion seems very much a sideways step into a different tub of bollox.
I honestly think we need to ban religion of all types in education. If you want to do god stuff – you do it on your own time in the privacy of your own home.
> The school noted that whilst it felt collective worship was valuable, its provision should be “reflective of the beliefs of the children here”.
How exactly is it valuable?!?
Because “faith” is useful to the people who want to control you
> State-funded schools are required by law to hold daily acts of collective worship, which must be “wholly or mainly of a broadly Christian character”.
I somehow never knew this, holy shit.
I dunno.
I, and my father are as atheist as they come. However, I feel that shouting PANTS at the top of your voice during ‘He’s got the whole world in his PANTS’ is all part of every child’s school experience. Who are we to take that away from the little mites?
It is a disgrace having to bow down to biblical myth, it is high time education and religion are fully separated no matter what the religion
I think it’s absolutely fine to have religious assemblies in school, as long as we can have compulsory physics lessons in church.
…and if religious people don’t like the sound of that, then perhaps we should keep them both separate.
A thread with a topic involving religion on Reddit? I am sure this will be a civil and well tempered discussion.
Can they deny people laughing at the content too? I’m not so certain of that.
Sad that youngsters today may never know of such banging belters like *Dance, then, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said he*
I think some sort of religious education is a good idea but should be taught from the standpoint of this is what people believe and should cover a wide range of beliefs.
Imo it’s a lot easier to reconcile differences with people if you have a rough understanding of their viewpoint and how they came to that view.
I knew the head of the local church was head of state but I didn’t realise how theocratic education was in Britain. So, no standardised national curriculum but everyone has to do a bit of Christianity.
Became a Norse pagan when I was 14, never had a problem with assemblies, barring the ones from my rabid humanist deputy head. That man gave lifelong nightmares and thanophobia. Just because you are a secularist doesn’t mean you can’t fuck kids up just as much as religious types
A surprising amount of teachers are or at least used to be very religious. There are plenty of religious teacher training colleges as well. I went to what was Westminster College in Oxford for my teacher training, a Methodist institution. As a non religious person who didn’t know any other religious people I was amazed at how active and numerous the religious students were. I would guess at least 75% were practicing Christians and fairly zealous about it. This was in the 80s so maybe times have changed.
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So because a third of the parents are Christian they have to keep it up ? Talk about minority rule. Fuck it all right off.
Religious assemblies and Faith schools in general need banning. Faith/religion should be something taught at home or through the church.
A kids nowadays don’t need all that crap, concentrate on learning, social skills etc. Take all religions (except broad church religious studies) out of there for good.
Assemblies have to be “of a broadly Christian character”. There’s a lot of wiggle room there if you don’t want literal bible surmons.
The law 100% should be changed, instantly, but it’s not quite as restrictive as it sounds at first glance.
Seems rather straightforward to solve.
Encourage parents to take the option that their children can opt out of the religious part of the assembly.
The school then organises the assembly so that the first half has the important inclusive stuff that everyone attends, then almost everybody leaves and the assembly continues into the religious section with nobody but the actual believers left.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/31/section/71
I always hated this shit when I was at school and would refuse to stand for the prayers.
I had various form tutors over the years though and none of them ever pulled me aside for it and I left school in 97. So there’s that.
> In a meeting in July, Hampshire County Council’s SACRE denied the school’s application for exemption, judging the requirements on the character of collective worship to be appropriate because a third of parents identify as Christian.
What utterly bizarre reasoning to deny this request, also, why is it up to these fuckers?
> Just under half the SACRE’s members are appointed as representatives of religious denominations.
What the fuck???
No religious assembles I would support but just swapping the Christian ones out for another religion seems very much a sideways step into a different tub of bollox.
I honestly think we need to ban religion of all types in education. If you want to do god stuff – you do it on your own time in the privacy of your own home.
> The school noted that whilst it felt collective worship was valuable, its provision should be “reflective of the beliefs of the children here”.
How exactly is it valuable?!?
Because “faith” is useful to the people who want to control you
> State-funded schools are required by law to hold daily acts of collective worship, which must be “wholly or mainly of a broadly Christian character”.
I somehow never knew this, holy shit.
I dunno.
I, and my father are as atheist as they come. However, I feel that shouting PANTS at the top of your voice during ‘He’s got the whole world in his PANTS’ is all part of every child’s school experience. Who are we to take that away from the little mites?
It is a disgrace having to bow down to biblical myth, it is high time education and religion are fully separated no matter what the religion
I think it’s absolutely fine to have religious assemblies in school, as long as we can have compulsory physics lessons in church.
…and if religious people don’t like the sound of that, then perhaps we should keep them both separate.
A thread with a topic involving religion on Reddit? I am sure this will be a civil and well tempered discussion.
Can they deny people laughing at the content too? I’m not so certain of that.
Sad that youngsters today may never know of such banging belters like *Dance, then, wherever you may be, I am the Lord of the Dance, said he*
I think some sort of religious education is a good idea but should be taught from the standpoint of this is what people believe and should cover a wide range of beliefs.
Imo it’s a lot easier to reconcile differences with people if you have a rough understanding of their viewpoint and how they came to that view.
I knew the head of the local church was head of state but I didn’t realise how theocratic education was in Britain. So, no standardised national curriculum but everyone has to do a bit of Christianity.
Became a Norse pagan when I was 14, never had a problem with assemblies, barring the ones from my rabid humanist deputy head. That man gave lifelong nightmares and thanophobia. Just because you are a secularist doesn’t mean you can’t fuck kids up just as much as religious types
A surprising amount of teachers are or at least used to be very religious. There are plenty of religious teacher training colleges as well. I went to what was Westminster College in Oxford for my teacher training, a Methodist institution. As a non religious person who didn’t know any other religious people I was amazed at how active and numerous the religious students were. I would guess at least 75% were practicing Christians and fairly zealous about it. This was in the 80s so maybe times have changed.
I mean why not? There are Muslim only schools.
Fuck it all off!