Using throw away account for this one.

Hi guys, I am under implression I’m beeing scamed. I need you to help me figure out. I am in process of buying pellets from your country in hopes to get some today as the balkans are out of control this year.

There is this company in poland called andrewex sp zoo That I have been communicating with, having the website at [https://andrewex-sp-zoo.com/](https://andrewex-sp-zoo.com/)But ofcourse there is another similar one [https://andrewex.pl/](https://andrewex.pl/) that has a warning on the top.

Here is the proforma invoice: [https://imgur.com/a/KNz9egb](https://imgur.com/a/KNz9egb)

Could some of you Polish speaking friends help me identify if this is a fraud?

Edit: Ofcourse I paid the 50%. The tracking was from another bullshit company:
[https://www.globalfowarders-sa.com/tracking.html](https://www.globalfowarders-sa.com/tracking.html)

Which again looks like scam. Oh well, its a fools tax :(. I guess I can try bank chargeback or just take it as a expensive lesson.

10 comments

  1. There is such a company registered under this address in the National Counrt Register (or rather three similiar companies and one in a nearby villiage).

    The invoice looks very bullshitly, thats true. Probably their accountant is some MS Paint soldier?

    You can check any company registered in poland here: https://ekrs.ms.gov.pl/web/wyszukiwarka-krs/strona-glowna/

    Edit: the red flags are: why do they use a spanish bank? And also the “director” that signed the invoice is not a board member. Thats strange but happens with larger scale operarions.

    Edit 2: Ok the website is defo a scam . Look at the bottom of about us section, our team – there are just some random images there: https://andrewex-sp-zoo.com/about-us/. If I were You I would write it up to the police/prosecution office. You can report the website as scammy to the CSIRT (centre for anti-online fraud) https://incydent.cert.pl/#!/lang=pl

  2. It looks like a scam, they don’t give you polish information in bank box. If it is polish company they need poslish bank account, and polish iban o r swift starts with PL not ES…

  3. I wouldn’t trust it, first of all this company is not regosterd or at least I can’t find it in central registration of companies and second of all it’s bank is not a polish bank, it’s some foreign bank I don’t even know. And like you said, other company has a info that this one is a scam. Did you already paid them?

  4. It’s definitely a scam. Like you said – the real website has a [warning](https://andrewex.pl/) about the other website.

    Just an fyi – “z o.o.” is a Polish abbreviation for LTD, no one puts it in their website’s address. The scammers added it in to make it different to the genuine one, but still look “legitimate”.

    You might want to send an email to the Spanish bank notifying them the account they hold is used to conduct fraud.

  5. It’s as fake as it gets, as someone else said, “sp. z o.o.” means “LLC” or “LTD.” That site is clearly generated from a template, all places where the name should go have “andrewex-sp-zoo” instead of “Andrewex sp. z o.o.” It’s the equivalent of McDonald’s referring to themselves as “mcdonalds-corporation” on their official website.

  6. It might be worth checking what obligations that Spanish bank has under gdpr with regards to enabling an account holder at their institution to impersonate an EU business and receive fraudulent funds. If any of this puts the back on the hook for gdpr breaches they will be super motivated to both help you and to track down this clown. This is a long shot tho, it’s not exactly what gdpr is designed for, but it’s certainly in that space, so maybe…

  7. Invoice looks fake as hell. Poland has highly regulated laws regarding invoicing. If you create document “proforma” than it can’t be named “invoice” (I know, dumb, but scammers probably don’t know it).

  8. According to KRS (governmental business registry), Andrewex has been operating since 2002. Andrewex.pl has been theirs since 2004 ( https://whois.domaintools.com/andrewex.pl ), registered through a Polish registrar and hosted in Poland.

    The sp-zoo.com domain has been running since 2020 ( https://whois.domaintools.com/andrewex-sp-zoo.com/ ), is hosted in America and registered through an American registrar. Polish companies tend to go with Polish providers. Just the Italian bank alone would be a red flag.

    Signature being different from the stamped name is another flag.

    The name itself… well, we don’t use “Gorczyca” (mustard) as a given name. It is in use as a family name **but** the “Lastname Firstname” format is used formally in scenarios where records need to be alphabetized (eg: classroom records) – Poles don’t sign documents like that.

    The phone number has a detail even many of us would miss at first glance – the region number 58 is for Gdańsk, that’s literally half the country away from the company’s supposed location. Once you realize that, it’s one more flag.

    Finally, the stamp itself doesn’t contain the NIP, founding capital or KRS number **all of which are legally required in Poland** .

    > I guess I can try bank chargeback or just take it as a expensive lesson.

    First chargeback, second report to abuse@namesilo.com, third report to THE BANK THEY ARE USING. Get the fuckers’ assets frozen and then you’ll be the one laughing.

  9. Yes it is scam. Looking at the price alone. The cheapest Pellet you can buy in Poland is going to cost at least 400€ per tone, not including shipping it abroad (an actual stuff you want to buy will be closer 550€ per tone plus shipping).

  10. Why bank account number on proforma stars with ES…? It’s a sign of Spain, but the seller is in Poland. Isn’t it?

    Yes, there are no restrictions to Polish firm to have a bank account in other country, but it looks strange until a firm is a big corporation.

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