If you wanna get right down to it you’ll find the vast majority of vegetables aren’t vegan either since they were grown with the help of bonemeal
Isn’t that true with most fruit and veg? If you go back to the source.
Lots of fruit has beeswax applied to it to make it nice and glossy (beeswax isn’t vegan)
Don’t tell vegans that most farms ship in bee labor from elsewhere and that most of the crops they eat are pollinated using incarcerated slave bee labor. /s
> Because of the wax, vegan customers are unable to use the zest from the orange peel in their cooking.
For most of those who practice veganism for ethical reasons the concern isn’t the physical ingestion of the remains, it’s the harm to the animals. So vegans wouldn’t intentionally use these oranges regardless of whether the wax was incorporated in their food.
I’ve generally been able to find unwaxed lemons and oranges at most tesco stores, the zest is much easier to grate off than the waxed kind.
It’s impossible to be a perfect vegan given how ubiquitous animal derived products are but no system of morality or religion even is about being perfect, it’s about consciously reflecting on the consequences of your choices and trying to do better.
So…two people on Twitter are angry?
Blood orange.
“Anger!”, typical LBC outrage clickbait. A few people on twitter asking some questions and immediately hyping this out of proportion. I’m guessing there will be a big petition started up soon and then “Tesco in embarrassing U-turn” or some shit.
Will someone not think of the vegans for once!
Oranges are very sugar friendly, though.
Wow, the ignorance of some people on this thread is astounding.
So quick to shit on vegans, but no real concept of what the definition of veganism is.
Not sure why this is singling out Tesco. Every supermarket’s citrus fruit is waxed, and it’s always beeswax or shellac. The only ones I could ever find that weren’t were Sainsbury’s organic unwaxed ones which were a bit more expensive, but were nice tbf
Hahaha! That has made my day!
I remember being in the 24hr Tesco in Dundee (the one on the Kingsway ring road) around 2007 and asking a shop assistant who looked a lot like Fiona Bruce where I would find the demerara sugar. It turned out there was a bit of civil unrest in South America over wages at the time and this had an impact on availability which meant that the riff on a traditional panna cotta that I had planned never came to fruition that week.
Surely “shoppers discovering non vegan status of Tescos oranges happy as they can now make informed purchase” would make more sense than anger.
Humans evolved through hunting and cooking meat
If you want to be really picky…very little-nothing you can buy is 100% vegan friendly unless you grow it yourself.
Crops are sprayed with pesticides, weed killer and fertiliser which kills insects, fish, other animals.
Even if they use manure, that comes from probably dairy or beef cattle.
They plough up the ground which kills insects and sometimes animals get crushed by the tractor wheels.
It’s pretty grim, the more you look into it.
Wow people in the comment really are getting themselves upset about people trying to avoid eating meat and other animal products. Did about 3 people ask the question on Twitter and now there is a national OUTRAGE from vegans?? ‘Well your grains aren’t vegen because fieldmice die in farm machines’ 🤡
I hear their grapes are racist, too!
These types of articles that characterise all vegans as superior, strict and angry just undermine the fact that we could all be eating fewer animal products for the sake of the environment. I avoid animal products as much as I can and where I can but disallowing reasonable exceptions just puts people off and keeps it a niche lifestyle choice. For example I have leather shoes but I bought them all second hand. Better to give something a longer life than create a new order for a plastic/oil based product. Sometimes I eat cheese or milk for the B12. If we all just made small adjustments it has more impact than a niche group of people being super strict.
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Don’t forget about almost any medication going through crab blood?
Orange: *May contain traces of fish*
Angry vegans. Super scary.
Just wait until they find out what other things bees commercially pollinate.
As a beefarmer myself we migrate to Apples, cherries, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, field beans, oilseed rape, mustard, buckwheat, borage and pumpkins. I know colleuges that pollinate parsnips. And carrots for seed production too…its a deep rabbit hole.
That’s just here in the UK, most almonds grown in the USA and Australia are commercial pollinated by bees… There goes your almond milk 🤷♂️
>”The supermarket says it is looking for alternatives to the wax it currently uses, which contains shellac, a resin secreted on trees by female lac bugs on the trees of forests in India and Thailand”
So it’s not vegan because bugs secreted on it? Does that really void it being vegan when it is done indirectly and not causing harm to animals?
Does animal manure being used as compost for the soil to grow vegetables, void that product being vegan? I don’t quite understand
Wait, wait, wait…. I’m really confused.
Shelac is secreted by bugs? I thought it was their crushed shells that made Shelac. But.. Putting that to one side and saying for the sake of argument it is secreted… How is that different to beeswax?
Is the beeswax ok on its own or is that an issue too and if not, why not?
I know a vegan who doesn’t care about stuff like this and would still eat the oranges on the basis it is good enough.
If the headline has to tell you that people are angry, people aren’t angry.
People nowadays always have to find something to be offended about smh. Either buy them or don’t simple!
What I find bizarre whenever these articles come out is that, aside from poking holes in someone else’s moral framework, these types of pieces never really make the effort. If they cover the *real* tough points of veganism then we wouldn’t be talking about oranges.
We’d be talking about how pigs (an animal smarter than cats and dogs) are being sent to gas chambers, where they’re fed an aversive mix of gas that is neither humane nor peaceful in their final moments. Over 80% of the pigs in the UK are treated this way, and you only need to stand outside the slaughter house and hear them scream (yes you can hear them from outside the compound) to know that it’s wrong.
If you think debating the consumption of oranges seems odd and wasteful, what about discussing what happens [in this video](https://youtu.be/-7hAELEBjX4). Much more pertinent, I think.
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If you wanna get right down to it you’ll find the vast majority of vegetables aren’t vegan either since they were grown with the help of bonemeal
Isn’t that true with most fruit and veg? If you go back to the source.
Lots of fruit has beeswax applied to it to make it nice and glossy (beeswax isn’t vegan)
Don’t tell vegans that most farms ship in bee labor from elsewhere and that most of the crops they eat are pollinated using incarcerated slave bee labor. /s
> Because of the wax, vegan customers are unable to use the zest from the orange peel in their cooking.
For most of those who practice veganism for ethical reasons the concern isn’t the physical ingestion of the remains, it’s the harm to the animals. So vegans wouldn’t intentionally use these oranges regardless of whether the wax was incorporated in their food.
I’ve generally been able to find unwaxed lemons and oranges at most tesco stores, the zest is much easier to grate off than the waxed kind.
It’s impossible to be a perfect vegan given how ubiquitous animal derived products are but no system of morality or religion even is about being perfect, it’s about consciously reflecting on the consequences of your choices and trying to do better.
So…two people on Twitter are angry?
Blood orange.
“Anger!”, typical LBC outrage clickbait. A few people on twitter asking some questions and immediately hyping this out of proportion. I’m guessing there will be a big petition started up soon and then “Tesco in embarrassing U-turn” or some shit.
Will someone not think of the vegans for once!
Oranges are very sugar friendly, though.
Wow, the ignorance of some people on this thread is astounding.
So quick to shit on vegans, but no real concept of what the definition of veganism is.
Not sure why this is singling out Tesco. Every supermarket’s citrus fruit is waxed, and it’s always beeswax or shellac. The only ones I could ever find that weren’t were Sainsbury’s organic unwaxed ones which were a bit more expensive, but were nice tbf
Hahaha! That has made my day!
I remember being in the 24hr Tesco in Dundee (the one on the Kingsway ring road) around 2007 and asking a shop assistant who looked a lot like Fiona Bruce where I would find the demerara sugar. It turned out there was a bit of civil unrest in South America over wages at the time and this had an impact on availability which meant that the riff on a traditional panna cotta that I had planned never came to fruition that week.
Surely “shoppers discovering non vegan status of Tescos oranges happy as they can now make informed purchase” would make more sense than anger.
Humans evolved through hunting and cooking meat
If you want to be really picky…very little-nothing you can buy is 100% vegan friendly unless you grow it yourself.
Crops are sprayed with pesticides, weed killer and fertiliser which kills insects, fish, other animals.
Even if they use manure, that comes from probably dairy or beef cattle.
They plough up the ground which kills insects and sometimes animals get crushed by the tractor wheels.
It’s pretty grim, the more you look into it.
Wow people in the comment really are getting themselves upset about people trying to avoid eating meat and other animal products. Did about 3 people ask the question on Twitter and now there is a national OUTRAGE from vegans?? ‘Well your grains aren’t vegen because fieldmice die in farm machines’ 🤡
I hear their grapes are racist, too!
These types of articles that characterise all vegans as superior, strict and angry just undermine the fact that we could all be eating fewer animal products for the sake of the environment. I avoid animal products as much as I can and where I can but disallowing reasonable exceptions just puts people off and keeps it a niche lifestyle choice. For example I have leather shoes but I bought them all second hand. Better to give something a longer life than create a new order for a plastic/oil based product. Sometimes I eat cheese or milk for the B12. If we all just made small adjustments it has more impact than a niche group of people being super strict.
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Don’t forget about almost any medication going through crab blood?
Orange: *May contain traces of fish*
Angry vegans. Super scary.
Just wait until they find out what other things bees commercially pollinate.
As a beefarmer myself we migrate to Apples, cherries, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, field beans, oilseed rape, mustard, buckwheat, borage and pumpkins. I know colleuges that pollinate parsnips. And carrots for seed production too…its a deep rabbit hole.
That’s just here in the UK, most almonds grown in the USA and Australia are commercial pollinated by bees… There goes your almond milk 🤷♂️
>”The supermarket says it is looking for alternatives to the wax it currently uses, which contains shellac, a resin secreted on trees by female lac bugs on the trees of forests in India and Thailand”
So it’s not vegan because bugs secreted on it? Does that really void it being vegan when it is done indirectly and not causing harm to animals?
Does animal manure being used as compost for the soil to grow vegetables, void that product being vegan? I don’t quite understand
Wait, wait, wait…. I’m really confused.
Shelac is secreted by bugs? I thought it was their crushed shells that made Shelac. But.. Putting that to one side and saying for the sake of argument it is secreted… How is that different to beeswax?
Is the beeswax ok on its own or is that an issue too and if not, why not?
I know a vegan who doesn’t care about stuff like this and would still eat the oranges on the basis it is good enough.
If the headline has to tell you that people are angry, people aren’t angry.
People nowadays always have to find something to be offended about smh. Either buy them or don’t simple!
What I find bizarre whenever these articles come out is that, aside from poking holes in someone else’s moral framework, these types of pieces never really make the effort. If they cover the *real* tough points of veganism then we wouldn’t be talking about oranges.
We’d be talking about how pigs (an animal smarter than cats and dogs) are being sent to gas chambers, where they’re fed an aversive mix of gas that is neither humane nor peaceful in their final moments. Over 80% of the pigs in the UK are treated this way, and you only need to stand outside the slaughter house and hear them scream (yes you can hear them from outside the compound) to know that it’s wrong.
If you think debating the consumption of oranges seems odd and wasteful, what about discussing what happens [in this video](https://youtu.be/-7hAELEBjX4). Much more pertinent, I think.