Seems to be rampant anyway, mayaswell legalise it, and regulate it, would cut off revenue streams of organised crime and stop demonising buyers and sellers.
Same with story with cannabis. Honestly don’t get the resistance to these concepts. Government just waiting for the other big countries to do it first lest we look in anyway progressive.
How much of a scumbag would you need to be, to be in a position of authority & trust, and to abuse that position for sexual favours. The dogs on the street know gards have been at this for years, any of them caught should have the book thrown at them.
I always thought that the current law was ridiculous, making it legal to sell, but illegal to buy sex.
Much like drugs being sold, legal or not, it’s happening and will continue to happen no matter what. Legalise it and make it safer for everyone involved.
Elephant in the room. The real problem seems to be corruption in the Gardai. If selling sexual services is already legal yet they are still harassing and extorting those who sell sex then is decriminalisation of buying sex going to stop that happening.
Although I feel decriminalisation and regulation of the sex industry is to be welcomed there is another very separate issue here, once again those that should be applying the law are acting as if they are above the law.
Considering it was the Magdalene Laundries who were behind the push to criminalise it I think it should be repealed.
It was not evidence or reality based to bring in the law. It was old school Catholic morals.
Surely the correct approach to sex work is the one that makes it safest for all the women (and men) involved in it.
Is full legalisation the answer to that ? I’m not sure. The evidence from Germany and the Netherlands seems to suggest that legalisation leads to an increase in trafficking of vulnerable adults from poorer countries to those where it is legal.
I don’t think there’s an easy answer here.
Legalise it the way Netherlands did, legalise and control weed production and distribution for recreational use, legalise psychadelic mushrooms for therapies and medical use.
This country would kill recession with taxation of these in a month. We have mushrooms growing everywhere, people smoking weed on every corner, and countryside guys in middle of nowhere that’d be down to nail a hooker. I see nothing but benefits
I remember years ago ( early 2000) an article by a well known tabloid was scrapped because as they took pictures of people coming and going in and out of a well known brothel in Dundalk, simply because most of the clients were serving members of An Garda. Instead they ran the story about having to pull the story..lol
Always thought they should bring back the brothels
(My great great grandmother used to be the madam of one in town)
Hasn’t the argument been made by sex workers and advocates that sex work should be decriminalised not legalised.
Because their worry is that if it’s legal then it just leads to more exploitation?
Just ban CEX instead.
> it already happens so might as well legalize it
Soon Irish people will push to legalize young boy gangs beating the shit out of them on the street.
The only girls I’ve ever known who worked as prostitutes were junkies and in dire situations. I agree with legalising it so the girls can be protected by…. the Gardai I guess. Yikes. I will never consider the sex trade as anything other than sad and depressing all round. I understand some offer services to lonely men or husbands in sexless marriages who don’t want to leave the relationship or start an affair, but I still think it’s all a bit depressing. Once you get to the entire trafficking side of it it gets really depressing.
I was once at Dublin airport working at the arrivals gate. We only got access to it late at night so as not to be in the way and at 3 am or something like that a flight arrived from eastern Europe. Two big scary looking lads with shaved heads and bomber jackets arrived in. A beautiful leggy blonde came through. No words exchanged, they took her bag and off she went. Maybe it was innocent enough but my heart sank for her. Got the feeling she’d handed over her passport pretty soon after. Sex trafficking and exploitation are what really needs addressing.
Can we legalize weed first, I can get sex for free…. 😉
Is this the start of undoing all of Fine Gael’s malice?
Frances Fitzgerald that championed this law to hide Garda members using prostitutes despite knowing it would seriously endanger sex workers was then made an MEP as a reward.
I’d only be in favor of it if the Gardaí got a massive increase in their numbers. There isn’t enough as is to deal with petty crime and anti social behavior, how can we expect anyone operating in the sex industry to feel safe if it was fully legalized. Human traffickers would be laughing at us more than they already do ffs.
Hello, one sex please.
Legalise it and tax it
The whole ‘criminalise sex’ thing was a plan lead by nuns and ultra catholics to stop people from having sex – silly, I know but I met a nun on a train once and she told me all about the work she was doing with the poor bedraggled prostitutes I see moping around every day looking for options – so the ultras made their lives harder and said it was making them better. *Turn off the blue light* campaign is against this kind of intervention from the citizens.
Ask the working girls what they want and it will be wildly different from what the ultras want.
Welp there goes my career prospects 😓
It’s fucking ridiculous that the state involves itself in this. If someone wants to sell sex then it’s no one’s business; we don’t want moral guardians here, people should f-off and mind their own business.
Yeah it’s silly to “legalise” selling sex while still making buying it illegal. It still encourages keeping it underground.
Just make it fully legal, regulated, and stop pretending it doesn’t happen.
“Howaya Mary – grand day…”
“Well John – what can I get ya?”
“Throw us out a euros worth of penny sweets there… and I’ll take 2 curly wurlys there… what’s that down there on the bottom shelf – a roy rover is it?.. yeah I’ll take one of them… I’ll get an aul hand shandy off ya aswell and I’ll pay to see the 2 diddies this time instead of just the one…oh and charge me for a pint of milk there – I’ll grab it out of the fridge on the way out.”
To my understanding it was legal kinda as long as there’s only 1 girl on the premises if there’s more then 1 working that’s a brothel which is illegal .
State shouldn’t have a say in what you do to your own body if it’s not maliciously hurting others. Fucking, sucking, smoking, drinking, injecting, popping or anything in between. Obviously excluding public places or in the presence of children or non consenting adults.
Solid regulation ensuring the suppliers/producers are providing the safest goods/services possible then free willy.
Does anyone else except me not agree with sex work? Does it kind of not just let society as a whole know that sex is something for men and that they are entitled to it? I seen in one of the comments that sure sex work is fine for the lonely man or the husband that is in a sexless marriage etc. … what about women?! What about lonely women that would like to be sexual and explore their sexuality?
Once sex work is made legal, I really hope they make provisions for women to be included and that straight male sex workers would be encouraged to join the sex work trade
I’m pro choice so I believe women (and people in general) should be free to choose what they do with their own bodies and sell sex if they so wish.
Gardai high on power and hero complex taking advantage of the public. Honestly at this point it seems like a requirement.
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Seems to be rampant anyway, mayaswell legalise it, and regulate it, would cut off revenue streams of organised crime and stop demonising buyers and sellers.
Same with story with cannabis. Honestly don’t get the resistance to these concepts. Government just waiting for the other big countries to do it first lest we look in anyway progressive.
How much of a scumbag would you need to be, to be in a position of authority & trust, and to abuse that position for sexual favours. The dogs on the street know gards have been at this for years, any of them caught should have the book thrown at them.
I always thought that the current law was ridiculous, making it legal to sell, but illegal to buy sex.
Much like drugs being sold, legal or not, it’s happening and will continue to happen no matter what. Legalise it and make it safer for everyone involved.
Elephant in the room. The real problem seems to be corruption in the Gardai. If selling sexual services is already legal yet they are still harassing and extorting those who sell sex then is decriminalisation of buying sex going to stop that happening.
Although I feel decriminalisation and regulation of the sex industry is to be welcomed there is another very separate issue here, once again those that should be applying the law are acting as if they are above the law.
Considering it was the Magdalene Laundries who were behind the push to criminalise it I think it should be repealed.
It was not evidence or reality based to bring in the law. It was old school Catholic morals.
Surely the correct approach to sex work is the one that makes it safest for all the women (and men) involved in it.
Is full legalisation the answer to that ? I’m not sure. The evidence from Germany and the Netherlands seems to suggest that legalisation leads to an increase in trafficking of vulnerable adults from poorer countries to those where it is legal.
I don’t think there’s an easy answer here.
Legalise it the way Netherlands did, legalise and control weed production and distribution for recreational use, legalise psychadelic mushrooms for therapies and medical use.
This country would kill recession with taxation of these in a month. We have mushrooms growing everywhere, people smoking weed on every corner, and countryside guys in middle of nowhere that’d be down to nail a hooker. I see nothing but benefits
I remember years ago ( early 2000) an article by a well known tabloid was scrapped because as they took pictures of people coming and going in and out of a well known brothel in Dundalk, simply because most of the clients were serving members of An Garda. Instead they ran the story about having to pull the story..lol
Always thought they should bring back the brothels
(My great great grandmother used to be the madam of one in town)
Hasn’t the argument been made by sex workers and advocates that sex work should be decriminalised not legalised.
Because their worry is that if it’s legal then it just leads to more exploitation?
Just ban CEX instead.
> it already happens so might as well legalize it
Soon Irish people will push to legalize young boy gangs beating the shit out of them on the street.
The only girls I’ve ever known who worked as prostitutes were junkies and in dire situations. I agree with legalising it so the girls can be protected by…. the Gardai I guess. Yikes. I will never consider the sex trade as anything other than sad and depressing all round. I understand some offer services to lonely men or husbands in sexless marriages who don’t want to leave the relationship or start an affair, but I still think it’s all a bit depressing. Once you get to the entire trafficking side of it it gets really depressing.
I was once at Dublin airport working at the arrivals gate. We only got access to it late at night so as not to be in the way and at 3 am or something like that a flight arrived from eastern Europe. Two big scary looking lads with shaved heads and bomber jackets arrived in. A beautiful leggy blonde came through. No words exchanged, they took her bag and off she went. Maybe it was innocent enough but my heart sank for her. Got the feeling she’d handed over her passport pretty soon after. Sex trafficking and exploitation are what really needs addressing.
Can we legalize weed first, I can get sex for free…. 😉
Is this the start of undoing all of Fine Gael’s malice?
Frances Fitzgerald that championed this law to hide Garda members using prostitutes despite knowing it would seriously endanger sex workers was then made an MEP as a reward.
I’d only be in favor of it if the Gardaí got a massive increase in their numbers. There isn’t enough as is to deal with petty crime and anti social behavior, how can we expect anyone operating in the sex industry to feel safe if it was fully legalized. Human traffickers would be laughing at us more than they already do ffs.
Hello, one sex please.
Legalise it and tax it
The whole ‘criminalise sex’ thing was a plan lead by nuns and ultra catholics to stop people from having sex – silly, I know but I met a nun on a train once and she told me all about the work she was doing with the poor bedraggled prostitutes I see moping around every day looking for options – so the ultras made their lives harder and said it was making them better. *Turn off the blue light* campaign is against this kind of intervention from the citizens.
Ask the working girls what they want and it will be wildly different from what the ultras want.
Welp there goes my career prospects 😓
It’s fucking ridiculous that the state involves itself in this. If someone wants to sell sex then it’s no one’s business; we don’t want moral guardians here, people should f-off and mind their own business.
Yeah it’s silly to “legalise” selling sex while still making buying it illegal. It still encourages keeping it underground.
Just make it fully legal, regulated, and stop pretending it doesn’t happen.
“Howaya Mary – grand day…”
“Well John – what can I get ya?”
“Throw us out a euros worth of penny sweets there… and I’ll take 2 curly wurlys there… what’s that down there on the bottom shelf – a roy rover is it?.. yeah I’ll take one of them… I’ll get an aul hand shandy off ya aswell and I’ll pay to see the 2 diddies this time instead of just the one…oh and charge me for a pint of milk there – I’ll grab it out of the fridge on the way out.”
To my understanding it was legal kinda as long as there’s only 1 girl on the premises if there’s more then 1 working that’s a brothel which is illegal .
State shouldn’t have a say in what you do to your own body if it’s not maliciously hurting others. Fucking, sucking, smoking, drinking, injecting, popping or anything in between. Obviously excluding public places or in the presence of children or non consenting adults.
Solid regulation ensuring the suppliers/producers are providing the safest goods/services possible then free willy.
Does anyone else except me not agree with sex work? Does it kind of not just let society as a whole know that sex is something for men and that they are entitled to it? I seen in one of the comments that sure sex work is fine for the lonely man or the husband that is in a sexless marriage etc. … what about women?! What about lonely women that would like to be sexual and explore their sexuality?
Once sex work is made legal, I really hope they make provisions for women to be included and that straight male sex workers would be encouraged to join the sex work trade
I’m pro choice so I believe women (and people in general) should be free to choose what they do with their own bodies and sell sex if they so wish.
Gardai high on power and hero complex taking advantage of the public. Honestly at this point it seems like a requirement.