I support the idea of training Ukrainian troops, but doesn’t this step across the line of military neutrality?
I know fuck all about these things.
The actions we take are not of a neutral country, if these actions are supported by the nation then it’s ok. Only thing is we can’t play that neutral card if it kicks off
Nah
There needs to be a proper discussion about neutrality in this country.
It seems as though we are neutral when it suits us (grossly underfunded defence forces) and not when it doesn’t (refuelling US planes on the way to foreign war zones/ training Ukranian troops etc)
I’m not sure what the correct approach is but half neutral is not neutral – as an old boss used say, there is no such thing as half pregnant
The army has been involved in loads of missions to train foreign soldiers, ie Mali at the moment. This isn’t really that different
We’ve never been neutral anyway.
We are not a neutral country. More people need to know this.
It would have to be very basic training for new recruits, as I’m sure the Ukrainian forces are some of the most battle hardened in the world now.
Can you imagine this country with a large military budget. It would be run into the ground
More like the Ukrainians can train our army.
Our neutrality was quietly ignored, undermined and now taken away from us. The population were told to be delighted about that and many now are. Getting harder and harder not to see doomsday futures lads…
Have you ever seen anything more pathetic than an Irish person begging to get us involved in a global conflict.
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Coveney keeps pushing Irelands neutrality to breaking point.
Good I’m glad
Yeah because our army has so much war experience…
It is an attempt by our FFFG government to sidestep any semblance of neutrality that Ireland has; and enable them and their cronies to start spending billions of Irish taxpayers money on a new defence industry.
Good, about time our our army did something productive
What a joke 😂😂😂 Irish military technically hasn’t fought a single war what they’re going to teach? 😂😂
A classic Eurovision2006 post
Ah here, sure we can’t be seen to be taking sides and risk our all important neutrality!! What’s next, Irish politicians will grow spines? 😂😂
Not a fan of Ireland’s so-called neutrality. In this instance when an aggressor is acting as Russia are against Ukrainians, and we are already providing assistance anyway albeit more humanitarian, training Ukrainian soldiers to fight back against them is the right thing to do. Allowing US planes to land and refuel in their wars wasn’t the right thing, but that’s what it was. We need to act a bit more globally, in the sense of doing the right thing rather than appearances. If the shoe was on the other foot, we would be looking for help all round us.
Really not sure what the point of Irish neutrality is. Seems it’s only a thing because enough Irish people still buy into the mythos around our neutrality, and politicians are not willing to poke the hornets nest. As far as any other nation or organisation is concerned, we’re unequivocally NATO aligned.
Good news
I am very much against this. By international metrics, Russia and Ukraine are the two most corrupt countries in Europe.
We should be getting between them and promoting a ceasefire/ peace.
I think we need a stronger army before we train other armies
Personally I’d be very opposed to NATO membership (would commit us to a mutual defence pact with nations a lot further from ‘neutrality’ than we are; would pressurise us to increase defence spending a lot) – yet I’d have no problem with providing this kind of assistance to Ukraine.
We’re not joining a long-term military alliance with Ukraine or against Russia; we’d be helping a nation that’s under attack to defend itself.
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I support the idea of training Ukrainian troops, but doesn’t this step across the line of military neutrality?
I know fuck all about these things.
The actions we take are not of a neutral country, if these actions are supported by the nation then it’s ok. Only thing is we can’t play that neutral card if it kicks off
Nah
There needs to be a proper discussion about neutrality in this country.
It seems as though we are neutral when it suits us (grossly underfunded defence forces) and not when it doesn’t (refuelling US planes on the way to foreign war zones/ training Ukranian troops etc)
I’m not sure what the correct approach is but half neutral is not neutral – as an old boss used say, there is no such thing as half pregnant
The army has been involved in loads of missions to train foreign soldiers, ie Mali at the moment. This isn’t really that different
We’ve never been neutral anyway.
We are not a neutral country. More people need to know this.
It would have to be very basic training for new recruits, as I’m sure the Ukrainian forces are some of the most battle hardened in the world now.
Can you imagine this country with a large military budget. It would be run into the ground
More like the Ukrainians can train our army.
Our neutrality was quietly ignored, undermined and now taken away from us. The population were told to be delighted about that and many now are. Getting harder and harder not to see doomsday futures lads…
Have you ever seen anything more pathetic than an Irish person begging to get us involved in a global conflict.
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Coveney keeps pushing Irelands neutrality to breaking point.
Good I’m glad
Yeah because our army has so much war experience…
It is an attempt by our FFFG government to sidestep any semblance of neutrality that Ireland has; and enable them and their cronies to start spending billions of Irish taxpayers money on a new defence industry.
Good, about time our our army did something productive
What a joke 😂😂😂 Irish military technically hasn’t fought a single war what they’re going to teach? 😂😂
A classic Eurovision2006 post
Ah here, sure we can’t be seen to be taking sides and risk our all important neutrality!! What’s next, Irish politicians will grow spines? 😂😂
Not a fan of Ireland’s so-called neutrality. In this instance when an aggressor is acting as Russia are against Ukrainians, and we are already providing assistance anyway albeit more humanitarian, training Ukrainian soldiers to fight back against them is the right thing to do. Allowing US planes to land and refuel in their wars wasn’t the right thing, but that’s what it was. We need to act a bit more globally, in the sense of doing the right thing rather than appearances. If the shoe was on the other foot, we would be looking for help all round us.
Really not sure what the point of Irish neutrality is. Seems it’s only a thing because enough Irish people still buy into the mythos around our neutrality, and politicians are not willing to poke the hornets nest. As far as any other nation or organisation is concerned, we’re unequivocally NATO aligned.
Good news
I am very much against this. By international metrics, Russia and Ukraine are the two most corrupt countries in Europe.
We should be getting between them and promoting a ceasefire/ peace.
I think we need a stronger army before we train other armies
Personally I’d be very opposed to NATO membership (would commit us to a mutual defence pact with nations a lot further from ‘neutrality’ than we are; would pressurise us to increase defence spending a lot) – yet I’d have no problem with providing this kind of assistance to Ukraine.
We’re not joining a long-term military alliance with Ukraine or against Russia; we’d be helping a nation that’s under attack to defend itself.