The Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant is under russian attack. In case of exposure of radioactive materials, [in 38 hours the radioactive cloud would arrive in Warsaw (which would be the most affected capital after Kiev – Source](https://leviborba.medium.com/how-putin-plans-to-unleash-a-radioactive-apocalypse-on-europe-e46c6133d7dc))

How fast the government would inform us if this is the case? And what should be the standard procedures? Would airplanes still fly?

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  1. Knowing our government they would first deny this and then blame it on Tusk.

  3. I can’t take anything this government says seriously. If Zelenskyy says that the plant has been hit, my family will be on the first flight to the US.

  4. Ahaha PiS is the opposite of environmental. They waited 2 weeks to inform us about a river dying.

  5. Oh my sweet summer child…PIS wouldn’t tell you anything.

  6. Depends, if it would happen during weekend you would need to wait till Monday

  7. Government would inform us pretty fast

    I don’t like PiS either, but it is not true, that in emergency situations they can’t help us. Just look at our help offered to Ukraine – I wish other countries were like Poland.

    It also doesn’t depends only on government, bug mainly on scientists and meteorologists

  8. That might actually improve quality of life in Warsaw.

  9. Standard procedures:
    1. Tell people that EU is responsible for it, because they were too kind to Russia
    2. Tell people that oposition (especially Donald Tusk) is also responsible because they are “anti-polish”
    3. When its really bad, once again blame the oposition

  11. Idk, I am so confused, if ZNPP is under Russian control are they shelling themselves to pressure eu?

  12. Guys, settle down your horses. Power plant in Zaporozhe isn’t using graphene but water. Because of that, there won’t be radioactive cloud made by burning graphene, because, as you might know, water isn’t burning. If you’re speaking in polish, check out video from Nauka. To lubię about it

  13. Iodine tablets are the typical first solution. If you are afraid this will happen this I would recommend that you buy enough to saturate your body (there are special packages that should be used in case of exposure to radiation, just ask your local pharmacy) and keep them ready in case it happens. It’s uncertain times and iodine is not particularly expensive. I myself don’t consider the risk all that likely, so I haven’t bought any, but if I felt a pronounced risk for it I would probably go and buy some for the peace of mind.

  14. It’s not that kind of reactor. It does not explode and created fallout. It’s would barely sip slowly if anything. The cores are secured and running in low operation mode

  15. Blame Tusk and PO and than Germany before blaming Tusk again

  17. In case of that politicians will flee, leaving us unnoticed of what’s happening for at least two weeks, just same thing as with Odra.

  19. tell me you know nothing about nuclear security without actually telling me you know nothing about nuclear security

    OP goes first.

  20. Ok but I got another question… why the fuck Russians shoot at power plant they already occupy/has full control over it???
    I got propaganda side, where they try to blame Ukrainians for it and scare eu with radioactive hazard, but seriously those dumbasses shot at something they control? Did they forget how war works? Or what happened in Chernobyl?

  21. check the difference between Zaporizhzia NPP and Chernobyl NPP (RBMK-1000) on wikipedia.

  22. I would expect it to go like that:24 hours: “There’s no need to panic”48 hours: “Our measurements systems does not found any extraordinary measures”60 hours: “Opposition is trying to start a nuclear panic, but we don’t have to be afraid of this nuclear fallout”120 hours: “Please close your windows and dont go outside if it’s not complete necessary”, at the very same moment Konfederacja will start their campaign against the new restrictions10 days: We will receive Lugol’s iodine that was bought by government for extreme high price. At the same time you will struggle to buy toilet paper, sugar and pasta.
    I’m not sure when they will found Donald Tusk guilty for this, but for sure they will.

  23. What type of utter BS this is?

    I’m not sure who wrote the article but it looks like alarmist crap, e.g.:

    >Millions would be affected by an accident far larger than Chernobyl — which was already considerable and caused birth defects even here in Poland.

    Not a single birth defect in Poland has been attributed to Chernobyl. So there’s that.

    >Millions would be affected by an accident far larger than Chernobyl

    There’s no way ZNPP would come even close to Chernobyl and the total number of people in **any way affected by Chernobyl is around 50k** – that includes people who died from exposure, radiation poisoning and most wild cancer risk estimates.

    >In their simulation, they used only a very small amount of radiation (1 becquerel), which is why the scale of the map is in nBq (nano-becquerel). Obviously, if the ZNP explodes, the amount of radiation released would be way higher.

    What is **way higher?????** FFS nuclear physics is a science – you can use dose charts and units, we really have it all in books.

    To give you a rough estimate – we can assume that 100mSv (miliSievierts) is still fine for people if we keep it low afterwards (not every year) and 20mSv is just high but fine.

    20mSv is 2rem is 2MBq. 2 Mega Bequerels. The charts from simulations Mr. Borba uses show most affected areas using piss yellow which seems to map to around 0.2nBq/m3.

    Now I’ll assume worst case (probably way too high conversion) where we’d multiply 0.2nBq/m3 times volume of human body (let’s be generous and say 0.1m3) and we arrive at stunning 0.02nBq. Realistically I’d be surprised if it was 0.02nBq.

    I’m not sure you can even measure such uptick in radiation so ???? WTF? Like what does it show? That if you spread some Cesium 137 you will spread some C137 … yeah, sure, fine. Should you be afraid? No, I don’t think so.

    Lets follow through to more weird assumptions.

    >Radioactive emissions are given in the form of two-point sources at heights of 200m and 500m above the earth’s surface, with a total stationary power of 1 becquerels/second

    How this numbers were obtained? Why 200m and 500m? Why not 10km? Why not 20km?

    I’m sorry but my engineering degree says this is really weird simulation – one that assumes (seems to me) two sources that *just happen to be* magically at those heights which is my **main problem.**

    That’s like saying being hit with mug will kill you. It won’t … unless that mug was falling down from 500m.

    Logically you’d say “What are the chances a mug will fall down from 500m down onto my head randomly?” and you’d be right – that chance is so small it’s practically zero (we all know that and we don’t wear helmets) yet with nuclear power people seem to switch logic off.

    >An “accident” like a Russian bomb releasing radiation from the ZNPP could cement, once and for all, all the aspirations of a European continent generating its own energy through nuclear power

    Let me assure you – creating such a source requires extreme amounts of work and explosives … probably the easiest thing to do would be to use nuclear bombs. Power plants make for bad bombs, really bad. That’s why we make bombs.

    Such “scientific” modelling is extremely fun because “assuming the actual problem is solved” (how to break through reactor confinement and multiple layers of safeties and avoiding meltdown lift radioisotopes high enough for long enough) you can simulate lots of stuff.

  24. Interesting fact: cloud from Chernobyl explosion is responsibile for 1/3 of lung cancers in Poland today.

  25. Goverment will not inform and hide information from us 🙂

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