How many of those are genuine cases where people were unlucky enough to have financial crisis?
How many of those a chancers?
At what point do the local authorities finally turn around and evict them, and give others the chance of a home that they’ll actually pay for?
Payment plans need to be put in place
I can’t read the article but managing property is not easy and cheap. It takes people with the right skillset, time and even managers with the right knowledge to oversee all that, not to mention access to materials and tradesmen to do the work. All of that will cost money. Poor councils will be poor landlords who will be not able to collect rent when needed and devalue the property through poor maintenance. But social housing is needed and sometimes people will unable to pay rent for genuine reasons. But people being people will try to work the system. Finding which is which takes time and effort.
I get annoyed when people try to present more social housing as a silver bullet solution. And when local authorities are never properly scrutinised for their performance. Silver bullets/moonshots fail a lot, they never live up to expectations and there is never the follow up to them that is needed to fix the initial problems. Because that involves admitting there was problems with the plan.
Sorry for the rant. Really annoyed lately.
Can they not simply garnish their welfare payments til they’re back in the black?
There is a small minority in this country who never tried or had any intention to try to be a contributing member of society and noticed that its easier to do fuck all and hope for a council house than try better yourself
Theyre only goal is to take the system for all its worth. Any attempt to ask them to contribute anything is met with victim mentality.
The genuine people newly in need find a way harder time getting theyre entitlements than the people who were born entitled.
Is that why they keep raising it for the ones that do pay up? Collect or kick out. If people want a house for free they can fuck off. Council houses are not a right.
Why would people pay if there are no repercussions for non-payment?
I don’t like coming at this from a race point of view as I fully support immigration and I acknowledge that we Irish people are among the largest races of immigrants in many countries but in the local council estate near where I live a large amount of those living there are first-generation immigrants. I personally don’t understand how it makes sense that you can immigrate to a country and immediately be housed in social housing. Just wanted to make that point.
Local authority rent is 12.5% of your income, so anyone who is not paying, gas decided not to pay. The local authority can and will evict people who don’t pay, unless they have families as they have to re-home them..that’s how simple it is.
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How many of those are genuine cases where people were unlucky enough to have financial crisis?
How many of those a chancers?
At what point do the local authorities finally turn around and evict them, and give others the chance of a home that they’ll actually pay for?
Payment plans need to be put in place
I can’t read the article but managing property is not easy and cheap. It takes people with the right skillset, time and even managers with the right knowledge to oversee all that, not to mention access to materials and tradesmen to do the work. All of that will cost money. Poor councils will be poor landlords who will be not able to collect rent when needed and devalue the property through poor maintenance. But social housing is needed and sometimes people will unable to pay rent for genuine reasons. But people being people will try to work the system. Finding which is which takes time and effort.
I get annoyed when people try to present more social housing as a silver bullet solution. And when local authorities are never properly scrutinised for their performance. Silver bullets/moonshots fail a lot, they never live up to expectations and there is never the follow up to them that is needed to fix the initial problems. Because that involves admitting there was problems with the plan.
Sorry for the rant. Really annoyed lately.
Can they not simply garnish their welfare payments til they’re back in the black?
There is a small minority in this country who never tried or had any intention to try to be a contributing member of society and noticed that its easier to do fuck all and hope for a council house than try better yourself
Theyre only goal is to take the system for all its worth. Any attempt to ask them to contribute anything is met with victim mentality.
The genuine people newly in need find a way harder time getting theyre entitlements than the people who were born entitled.
Is that why they keep raising it for the ones that do pay up? Collect or kick out. If people want a house for free they can fuck off. Council houses are not a right.
Why would people pay if there are no repercussions for non-payment?
I don’t like coming at this from a race point of view as I fully support immigration and I acknowledge that we Irish people are among the largest races of immigrants in many countries but in the local council estate near where I live a large amount of those living there are first-generation immigrants. I personally don’t understand how it makes sense that you can immigrate to a country and immediately be housed in social housing. Just wanted to make that point.
Local authority rent is 12.5% of your income, so anyone who is not paying, gas decided not to pay. The local authority can and will evict people who don’t pay, unless they have families as they have to re-home them..that’s how simple it is.
KICK OUT